Bernardini ?

jcs11204 · #1 06-29-2008, 11:58 PM

Just curious of what everyone thinks of him, what is his place in history ?
I just watched replays of all of his races and he was a freak, and no shame at all with that loss to Invasor.

jcs11204 · #2 06-30-2008, 12:02 AM

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Seriously?

lolol
YES SIR

#3 06-30-2008, 12:05 AM

Summon Kyrim

jcs11204 · #4 06-30-2008, 01:32 PM

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He made 8 starts. What kind of a place could he really have in history? He was a nice horse, but he is one of many from this era that it's hard to say because we didn't get to see enough of them on the track.

i think he was the best of the horses that we did not see enough of...but i do agree with what you say, what kind of place can he really have ? thats why i asked

freddymo · #5 06-30-2008, 01:41 PM

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i think he was the best of the horses that we did not see enough of...but i do agree with what you say, what kind of place can he really have ? thats why i asked

Dude he isn't part of history..Other then being on Abe's list that is

the_fat_man · #6 06-30-2008, 01:43 PM

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Dude he isn't part of history..

Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

freddymo · #7 06-30-2008, 01:48 PM

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Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

I respect your opinion a lot and recognize you have a great deal of knowledge about racing but jockeys aren't typically as responsible for horses failures as horses. A nice colt ran a few very smart races.. I would have loved to watch the Preakness that day instead of being so upset. It might have been a great race, maybe like the two hanging on my wall from 89?

miraja2 · #8 06-30-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

What is his place in history ?

In my opinion he was a pretty good colt who unfortunately is also a top contender in the "Most Overrated Horse of the Decade" category.

VOL JACK · #9 06-30-2008, 06:59 PM

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Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

He thought they were racing to the quarter pole. Just another over-confident ride by a jock that thinks they cant get beat no matter what.

jcs11204 · #10 06-30-2008, 09:07 PM

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Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

your wrong, javy appeared to be empty in that race, what was he supposed to do ? plus invasor backed that win up in giant way, coming back to win the dubai world cup and donn... no shame in that loss

Danzig · #11 06-30-2008, 09:16 PM

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your wrong, javy appeared to be empty in that race, what was he supposed to do ? plus invasor backed that win up in giant way, coming back to win the dubai world cup and donn... no shame in that loss

bernardini ran his race that day. no need to make excuses for him, he just faced a better, older horse. he certainly wasn't empty, and the jock may have ridden him a bit overconfidently. other than that, it was just invasors day to come out on top.

Cannon Shell · #12 06-30-2008, 09:19 PM

Is it possible for someone to put his pp's up?

jcs11204 · #13 06-30-2008, 09:20 PM

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bernardini ran his race that day. no need to make excuses for him, he just faced a better, older horse. he certainly wasn't empty, and the jock may have ridden him a bit overconfidently. other than that, it was just invasors day to come out on top.

HIS RACE ? go watch the replay, he was in a all out drive with no response turning for home, then he suddenly kicks it in, STRANGE.

ateamstupid · #14 06-30-2008, 10:17 PM

I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.

jcs11204 · #15 06-30-2008, 10:17 PM

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I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.

you are the man !

dalakhani · #16 06-30-2008, 10:24 PM

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I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.

true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.

jcs11204 · #17 06-30-2008, 10:26 PM

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true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.

he folded ? ? holy ****, its like ppl did not see the same race... this horse won everything in hand for fun, never ever asked to run... HE WAS NOT HIMSELF IN THE CLASSIC AND STILL RAN A DEAD GAME SECOND, FOLDED, WHAT RACE DID YOU WATCH ?

dalakhani · #18 06-30-2008, 10:28 PM

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he folded ? ? holy ****, its like ppl did not see the same race... this horse won everything in hand for fun, never ever asked to run... HE WAS NOT HIMSELF IN THE CLASSIC AND STILL RAN A DEAD GAME SECOND, FOLDED, WHAT RACE DID YOU WATCH ?

folded, lost...whatever. It was his only test against a real horse and he lost. How about that?

RolloTomasi · #19 06-30-2008, 10:30 PM

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true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.

Mizzen Mast? Ouch. He did nothing of note beyond being scratched from the Big Cap and "targeting" the Met Mile, which is Frankel code for "he's done". He did beat some 17-hand horse that previously was 3rd in the Pegasus at the Meadowlands a couple of times, not to mention I Love Silver, who Point Given beat by about 10 lengths or so in the SA Derby.

He was a horrendous failure in France, though.

jcs11204 · #20 06-30-2008, 10:30 PM

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folded, lost...whatever. It was his only test against a real horse and he lost. How about that?

folded and lost are to totally different things...

commentator folds sometimes
first defense folded in the met...

huge difference from a game loss