Cubs get HARDEN

SCUDSBROTHER · #1 07-08-2008, 07:33 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3478902

A's are really a whore organization. 9 games above .500, and they do that s-h-i-t. I like the pick up of Gaudin almost as much as Harden. You needed some better bridge in the 6th-8th to get you to the Woods.

Scav · #2 07-08-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3478902

A's are really a whore organization. 9 games above .500, and they do that s-h-i-t.

And it isn't a rental, get 1.5 years, and maybe more....

Cannon Shell · #3 07-08-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3478902

A's are really a whore organization. 9 games above .500, and they do that s-h-i-t. I like the pick up of Gaudin almost as much as Harden. You needed some better bridge in the 6th-8th to get you to the Woods.

Yeah those pitchers that A's get rid of really excell in other places...Like Zito, Mulder...even Hudson hasnt been nearly as effective outside of Oakland.

Do you really think they have a chance to compete down the stretch? They are 6 behind the Angels and have no shot to get the Wild Card. They get a good young (22) lefty and some replacement parts for Harden who has never had a full season without getting hurt and a pitcher that they dont need and who has very little value alone.

OTTH, This is a great deal for the Cubs IF Harden stays healthy. And at least they have Gaudin to fill in if he doesnt. Gaudin is about as average as you can be. He does have 4 errors in 62 innings this year which is pretty bad for a pitcher.

Scav · #4 07-08-2008, 09:35 PM

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Yeah those pitchers that A's get rid of really excell in other places...Like Zito, Mulder...even Hudson hasnt been nearly as effective outside of Oakland.

Do you really think they have a chance to compete down the stretch? They are 6 behind the Angels and have no shot to get the Wild Card. They get a good young (22) lefty and some replacement parts for Harden who has never had a full season without getting hurt and a pitcher that they dont need and who has very little value alone.

OTTH, This is a great deal for the Cubs IF Harden stays healthy. And at least they have Gaudin to fill in if he doesnt. Gaudin is about as average as you can be. He does have 4 errors in 62 innings this year which is pretty bad for a pitcher.

Gallagher wasn't a lefty, but he is solid, he will be a good #4, and maybe a 3.

Patterson is GARBAGE, Murton gets a chance to prove what he says he can do and no idea about the other one, but obviously became expendable with Soto's success

Cannon Shell · #5 07-08-2008, 09:37 PM

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Gallagher wasn't a lefty, but he is solid, he will be a good #4, and maybe a 3.

Patterson is GARBAGE, Murton gets a chance to prove what he says he can do and no idea about the other one, but obviously became expendable with Soto's success

I was thinking about Hill

Scav · #6 07-08-2008, 09:39 PM

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I was thinking about Hill

They sent him to A ball, and then A ball just sent him home for two weeks.

I guess the last two outings have been alot better

Cannon Shell · #7 07-08-2008, 09:41 PM

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They sent him to A ball, and then A ball just sent him home for two weeks.

I guess the last two outings have been alot better

I watched him against Pittsburgh earlier in the season and it looked like he had no idea where the ball was going. Then he would fire one right down the middle and they would launch them. He may have gone down after that. He looks like he can be the next Andy Pettite sometimes.

Scav · #8 07-08-2008, 09:43 PM

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I watched him against Pittsburgh earlier in the season and it looked like he had no idea where the ball was going. Then he would fire one right down the middle and they would launch them. He may have gone down after that. He looks like he can be the next Andy Pettite sometimes.

that is marshall

Cannon Shell · #9 07-08-2008, 09:45 PM

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that is marshall

Hill has that nasty slider like Pettite. Just cant control it.

Scav · #10 07-08-2008, 09:47 PM

SOTO!!!!!

my guy, #16

Cannon Shell · #11 07-08-2008, 09:55 PM

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SOTO!!!!!

my guy, #16

You did make the call, I will give you your due

Scav · #12 07-08-2008, 09:57 PM

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You did make the call, I will give you your due

I can't believe how well he has done, especially since I got his jersey about two weeks ago....I overestimated my mush powers

jwkniska · #13 07-08-2008, 10:46 PM

I'm a whole lot happier with Gaudin coming out of the pen for mid relief than Leiber (was ok a few years ago but scares you to death now every time he comes out).

Mortimer · #14 07-08-2008, 11:10 PM

Odd seeing the Cubs with a Harden in the bull pen.

SCUDSBROTHER · #15 07-09-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah those pitchers that A's get rid of really excell in other places...Like Zito, Mulder...even Hudson hasnt been nearly as effective outside of Oakland.

Do you really think they have a chance to compete down the stretch? They are 6 behind the Angels and have no shot to get the Wild Card. They get a good young (22) lefty and some replacement parts for Harden who has never had a full season without getting hurt and a pitcher that they dont need and who has very little value alone.

OTTH, This is a great deal for the Cubs IF Harden stays healthy. And at least they have Gaudin to fill in if he doesnt. Gaudin is about as average as you can be. He does have 4 errors in 62 innings this year which is pretty bad for a pitcher.

Yes,they had a chance at the Wild Card(3 1/2 back,) and we aren't even to the Allstar break. Probable? No..Chance..yes. Your saying that they have no shot at it is a lie, a poor opinion, or an exaggeration....I have no idea why you bring up the pitchers Oakland used to have. Fact is they did good in Oakland. It's a huge ballpark with a lot of foul territory. They may still have been doing well there if Oakland still had them. Now, lets talk about what the A's are getting. The main player is a starting pitcher who has finished 7 innings 1 time, and it doesn't count (cuz against Dodger s-h-i-t bats.) He is routinely throwing 111-120 pitches, and going out after 5 or 6 innings. His 4 wins were all at home against bad road teams(3 of which are in the NL WEST

) The only reason the A's are making this deal is to get people they won't have to pay much for 5 years. These are their whore ways. They get young pitchers that they don't have to pay, and they let them play in a park that suits pitchers well. Commissioner should veto the trade, and tell that A's organization to "compete you filthy whores." Are you, or are you not the Chucksta who said this Andruw Jones was gunna hit 31 home runs? All while having to play half his games in the tough hitting yard called Dodger Stadium? What say you? He has 50 strike outs in less than 150 at bats. He has 2 home runs. Now you pat the A's on the back for being good at whore activity.

SCUDSBROTHER · #16 07-09-2008, 12:38 AM

"OTTH, This is a great deal for the Cubs IF Harden stays healthy. And at least they have Gaudin to fill in if he doesnt. "

If I want something sold, I know where to go. Somehow I knew you could make it good for both parties involved. Did you ever consider law school? You a twister.

declansharbor · #17 07-09-2008, 12:45 AM

Does Bob Bean still run that ship out there?

and they have absolute no shot whatsoever to catch the Angels...What a well rounded team the Angels are...

SCUDSBROTHER · #18 07-09-2008, 12:50 AM

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Does Bob Bean still run that ship out there?

Yes, only this pimp could do this, and then say that the organization isn't selling. Of course ya selling (ya pimp.) He and De PODESTA are stink-pool scum.

declansharbor · #19 07-09-2008, 12:52 AM

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Yes, only this pimp could do this, and then say that the organization isn't selling. Of course ya selling (ya pimp.) He and De PODESTA are stink-pool scum.

I thought he was one of the ones that knew what it was they were doing...

Thought wrong I suppose.

All of this a moot point as they weren't true contenders for OCT anyways.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 07-09-2008, 01:01 AM

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I thought he was one of the ones that knew what it was they were doing...

Thought wrong I suppose.

All of this a moot point as they weren't true contenders for OCT anyways.

They are 3 1/2 out of the Wild Card. What if you an A's fan,and saw them give up a pitcher that has started 13 times this year(and the team won 9 out of those 13 starts.) In the 4 starts in which the A's lost, he gave up how many earned runs? 0,1,2, and 2. Oh fck yea, this is an unnecessary part of their team, right? The guy has given up 20 earned runs in 13 starts. How the fck they can give that to anybody is sick.