9/13 (BEL): Noble Damsel; Matron; Futurity; Gazelle

[Kasept]

6th (3:39) Noble Damsel H. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Say You Will (IRE) Velazquez J R 114 L
2 Cozzi Capital Velasquez C 116 L
3 Classic Neel Bridgmohan S X 114 L
4 Nans Joy (IRE) Maragh R 115 FTL
5 Trouble Maker Coa E M 115 L
6 Criminologist Prado E S 119 L
7 Waquoit's Love Gomez G K 115 L
8 Sefroua Garcia Alan 113
9 Chestoria Hill C 116



7th (4:11) Futurity S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 High Mesa Saez G 120 FTL
2 Kensei Bridgmohan S X 120 L
3 Flying Pegasus Velasquez C 120 L
4 Friesan Fire Thompson T J 120 FTL
5 Gone Astray Gomez G K 120 L
6 Girolamo Velazquez J R 120 L
7 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 120 L



8th (4:43) Matron S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Doremifasollatido Coa E M 119 L
2 On the Menu Thompson T J 119 FTL
3 Vegas Wedding Luzzi M J 119 L
4 Miss Ocean City Velazquez J R 119 L
5 Argyle Pink Velasquez C 119 L
6 Heavenly Vision Prado E S 119 L
7 Obsequious Gomez G K 119 L
8 Persistently Garcia Alan 119 L
9 Saintly Rose Nakatani C S 119 L



9th (5:15) Gazelle S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Awesome I Am Maragh R 115 L
2 Hamsa Coa E M 115 L
3 Country Star Velazquez J R 119 L
4 Mega Gomez G K 115 L
5 Music Note Castellano J J 122 L

Originally Posted by Kasept

6th (3:39) Noble Damsel H. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Say You Will (IRE) Velazquez J R 114 L
2 Cozzi Capital Velasquez C 116 L
3 Classic Neel Bridgmohan S X 114 L
4 Nans Joy (IRE) Maragh R 115 FTL
5 Trouble Maker Coa E M 115 L
6 Criminologist Prado E S 119 L
7 Waquoit's Love Gomez G K 115 L
8 Sefroua Garcia Alan 113
9 Chestoria Hill C 116



7th (4:11) Futurity S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 High Mesa Saez G 120 FTL
2 Kensei Bridgmohan S X 120 L
3 Flying Pegasus Velasquez C 120 L
4 Friesan Fire Thompson T J 120 FTL
5 Gone Astray Gomez G K 120 L
6 Girolamo Velazquez J R 120 L
7 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 120 L



8th (4:43) Matron S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Doremifasollatido Coa E M 119 L
2 On the Menu Thompson T J 119 FTL
3 Vegas Wedding Luzzi M J 119 L
4 Miss Ocean City Velazquez J R 119 L
5 Argyle Pink Velasquez C 119 L
6 Heavenly Vision Prado E S 119 L
7 Obsequious Gomez G K 119 L
8 Persistently Garcia Alan 119 L
9 Saintly Rose Nakatani C S 119 L



9th (5:15) Gazelle S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Awesome I Am Maragh R 115 L
2 Hamsa Coa E M 115 L
3 Country Star Velazquez J R 119 L
4 Mega Gomez G K 115 L
5 Music Note Castellano J J 122 L

Does anyone else think Country Star can win this ?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

if they did, I'm sure they are changing their mind now.

Thats solid handicapping strategy.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This coming from the child that goes through racing cards looking for horses sired by Giant's Causeway, so he can fake bet them.

How can Country Star win? Enlighten me.

your the man... I will post all my picks for Saturday, and you just bet against them. Again Amazing Strategy, great way to bet.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm asking you a serious question. What about Country Star's chances do you like?

OK, well we can start with Value, i clearly want no part of Music Note at 1-5.... if i play the pick 4, i will use both or single Country Star.
Small group, 2nd start back, turf to dirt.......... Should sit a perfrect trip, i see her being closer then Music Note and getting first run on her. The reassons to give her a chance in this spot are clear/obvious... Some ppl would use her, just as a alternative to the favorite.

Say you Handicap a race, and its a 7-8 horse group, and you only come up with one X, 7 live horses.... 2 a's 5b's... what do you do ?
do you not bet, do you use all of them ? how do you attack it ?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

If I handicap a race and come up with 7 live horses, I turn the page to the next race.

[the_fat_man]

I'm thinking if they had entered that RUNT, Indian Blessing, in the Gazelle, there'd be boost in attendance. I know I'd make the trip out there to watch her collapse when the serious running starts. Guess her connections didn't want to risk the heart attack.

No fun anymore at the track.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm thinking if they had entered that RUNT, Indian Blessing, in the Gazelle, there'd be boost in attendance. I know I'd make the trip out there to watch her collapse when the serious running starts. Guess her connections didn't want to risk the heart attack.

No fun anymore at the track.

Yet, she still might handle Country Star.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yet, she still might handle Country Star.

I think Indian Blessing would smoke Country Star...
Any Distance.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So why would you bet Country Star against Music Note?

Its different... Speed Kills..
If Blessing were in this race vs Music Note i would bet Blessing, pound her if the price was right
i guess it all comes down to me not being as high on Music Note as others, and me thinking that Indian Blessing is the best 3yr old filly around.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I guess it's a good thing you don't really make these bets than. What kind of price do you think Country Star is going to be?

music note will be 1-5 if not 1-9, ppl could get silly here.
country star will be 3-1 or higher.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hrfan

OK, well we can start with Value, i clearly want no part of Music Note at 1-5.... if i play the pick 4, i will use both or single Country Star.
Small group, 2nd start back, turf to dirt.......... Should sit a perfrect trip, i see her being closer then Music Note and getting first run on her. The reassons to give her a chance in this spot are clear/obvious... Some ppl would use her, just as a alternative to the favorite.

Did you actually see any of Country Star's races?

She was terrible at Keeneland. Terrible in the Kentucky Oaks. Should have been taken down at Saratoga. She is the most overrated horse currently running.

She has NO shot on Saturday. NONE. ZERO.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

For shi.ts and giggles how do you feel about Proud Spell?

I Slammed her in the bama, i took the 9-5 and loved it...
also hit pick 3 capped off with Ramon on the turf at a solid price the race after......
i like her better then music note, and would love to see her vs blessing again

Originally Posted by philcski

Did you actually see any of Country Star's races?

She was terrible at Keeneland. Terrible in the Kentucky Oaks. Should have been taken down at Saratoga. She is the most overrated horse currently running.

She has NO shot on Saturday. NONE. ZERO.

i would not say most overrated horse currently running.....

5,6,7 IN THE Futurity
the 4 might be a good one, but i wont go 4 deep

i am done trying to make a case for Country Star, if she wins i get burned, i cant use her in here either, Music Note should crush this group, IMO its not that she is super, its this group is fing Horrible

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think it's fair to say that there isn't a whole lot separating Proud Spell and Music Note. Their races against each other show it. So would you be trying to beat Proud Spell if you swapped her and Music Note on Saturday?

I dont think its fair... Proud Spell is a lot more tactical and Prefers 1 1/8.... Proud Spell would be more of a lock then Music Note. If Indian Blessing were in here, i would give her a chance to wire both of them, is that fair ?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What isn't fair about it? In their first race Proud Spell had trouble and was beat. In the Alabama, Castellano rode like a moron and Proud Spell showed tremendous heart digging in. They are damn close IMO and I'd love to see them hook up again. I'm not convinced Indian Blessing wants any part of 9 furlongs and while she would hold a huge tactical advantage, she wouldn't be on my tickets.

bama was 1 1/4, who has the advantage at that distance, CLEARLY Music Note.... at 1 1/8 proud spell is much much better IMO, and overall is much much better, because she defeated her at 1 1/4

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What isn't fair about it? In their first race Proud Spell had trouble and was beat. In the Alabama, Castellano rode like a moron and Proud Spell showed tremendous heart digging in. They are damn close IMO and I'd love to see them hook up again. I'm not convinced Indian Blessing wants any part of 9 furlongs and while she would hold a huge tactical advantage, she wouldn't be on my tickets.

Indian Blessing is a changed horse... you say yourself huge tactical advantage, i dont see how you could leave her off is she was in here, she'd have to be most likely winner going 1 1/8 with no other speed at all, now 1 1/4 is a totally different story again.