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Old 11-06-2008, 07:49 AM
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Default Tin Cup Chalice to Japan Cup Dirt

From Finger Lakes to a $2.5MM race halfway across the globe. Not bad for a horse that cost $5k.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...63/1007/SPORTS
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:12 AM
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:22 AM
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He's a neat horse......but this is ridiculous.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:23 AM
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He's a neat horse......but this is ridiculous.
Come on, he beat Pyro!
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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He beat a lot of decent horses.

I like the move, he deserves a shot. They cover all expense why not roll the dice
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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He's a neat horse......but this is ridiculous.
It's a rather.... "aggressive" spot.

Was honestly expecting him in the Discovery or some other much more reasonable spot, but hey it's a chance of a lifetime for the owner/trainer, and knowing the way the JRA operates he'll be shipped for free, entered for free, etc. Sounds like the JRA went down the list of American horses and got turned down till they got to TCC.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:56 AM
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They should be calling for Bullsbay
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:49 AM
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He beat a lot of decent horses.

I like the move, he deserves a shot. They cover all expense why not roll the dice

Then Smooth Air should go as well?

What does " he deserves a shot " mean? Roll the dice? You have been inundated by too much trainerspeak. If he deserves anything it is to be placed in spots he can win.....which his connections have done a good job of doing....until now. Plus, he was scratched with a small issue a week ago.....and now he's shipping half way around the world to finish last.

He does not " deserve " that.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:41 PM
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I saw a horse running off the wrong way around the race track here at Finger Lakes the other morning, the rider was having big problems trying to keep the horse under control . Turns out it was TCC breezing the wrong way in preparation for the race which will be run clockwise this year for the first time i believe.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:52 PM
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It's a rather.... "aggressive" spot.

Was honestly expecting him in the Discovery or some other much more reasonable spot, but hey it's a chance of a lifetime for the owner/trainer, and knowing the way the JRA operates he'll be shipped for free, entered for free, etc. Sounds like the JRA went down the list of American horses and got turned down till they got to TCC.


The original list of first nominated (international) horses... just for fun.

GB COCOA BEACH(CHI) F4 Saeed Bin Suroor
GB DRUMFIRE(IRE) C4 Mark Johnston
GB DUBAI'S TOUCH(GB) C4 Mark Johnston
GB LAA RAYB(USA) G4 Mark Johnston
GB LOVELACE(GB) C4 Mark Johnston
GB TRAFFIC GUARD(USA) C4 Jane Chapple-Hyam
GER THUNDER STORM CAT (USA) C4 Miroslav Rulec
ITY CIMA DE TRIOMPHE (IRE) C3 Bruno Grizzetti
ITY FARREL (IRE) C3 Bruno Grizzetti
ITY GIMMY (IRE) C4 Bruno Grizzetti
ITY SOPRAN PROMO (IRE) C4 Bruno Grizzetti
SAF LUCKY FIND(SAF) G5 Mike De Kock
USA ADD HEAT (USA) H5 Barry Abrams
USA ALBERTUS MAXIMUS (USA) C4 Vladimir Cerin
USA AQUINO (URU) C4 Kiaran P. McLaughlin
USA BARCOLA (USA) H5 Mark A. Hennig
USA BIG BOOSTER (USA) G7 Mike R. Mitchell
USA BIG BROWN (USA) C3 Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
USA COLONEL JOHN (USA) C3 Eoin G. Harty
USA COMMENTATOR (USA) G7 Nicholas P. Zito
USA CURLIN (USA) C4 Steven M. Asmussen
USA DELOSVIENTOS (USA) G5 Giuseppe Iadisernia
USA DIVINE PARK (USA) C4 Kiaran P. McLaughlin
USA FAIRBANKS (USA) H5 Todd A. Pletcher
USA FROST GIANT (USA) H5 Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
USA GOTTCHA GOLD (USA) H5 Edward Plesa, Jr.
USA GRASSHOPPER (USA) C4 Neil J. Howard
USA MAST TRACK (USA) C4 Robert J. Frankel
USA OUT OF CONTROL (BRZ) H5 Robert J. Frankel
USA PAST THE POINT (USA) C4 Eoin G. Harty
USA PYRO (USA) C3 Steven M. Asmussen
USA STUDENT COUNCIL (USA) H6 Steven M. Asmussen
USA SURF CAT (USA) H6 Bruce Headley
USA WANDERIN BOY (USA) H7 Nicholas P. Zito
USA WELL ARMED (USA) G5 Eoin G. Harty
USA ZANJERO (USA) C4 Steven M. Asmussen
USA ZAPPA (USA) G6 John W. Sadler
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:59 AM
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He's a neat horse......but this is ridiculous.
Ridiculous is not the word.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:55 AM
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The original list of first nominated (international) horses... just for fun.

GB COCOA BEACH(CHI) F4 Saeed Bin Suroor
GB DRUMFIRE(IRE) C4 Mark Johnston
GB DUBAI'S TOUCH(GB) C4 Mark Johnston
GB LAA RAYB(USA) G4 Mark Johnston
GB LOVELACE(GB) C4 Mark Johnston
GB TRAFFIC GUARD(USA) C4 Jane Chapple-Hyam
GER THUNDER STORM CAT (USA) C4 Miroslav Rulec
ITY CIMA DE TRIOMPHE (IRE) C3 Bruno Grizzetti
ITY FARREL (IRE) C3 Bruno Grizzetti
ITY GIMMY (IRE) C4 Bruno Grizzetti
ITY SOPRAN PROMO (IRE) C4 Bruno Grizzetti
SAF LUCKY FIND(SAF) G5 Mike De Kock
USA ADD HEAT (USA) H5 Barry Abrams
USA ALBERTUS MAXIMUS (USA) C4 Vladimir Cerin
USA AQUINO (URU) C4 Kiaran P. McLaughlin
USA BARCOLA (USA) H5 Mark A. Hennig
USA BIG BOOSTER (USA) G7 Mike R. Mitchell
USA BIG BROWN (USA) C3 Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
USA COLONEL JOHN (USA) C3 Eoin G. Harty
USA COMMENTATOR (USA) G7 Nicholas P. Zito
USA CURLIN (USA) C4 Steven M. Asmussen
USA DELOSVIENTOS (USA) G5 Giuseppe Iadisernia
USA DIVINE PARK (USA) C4 Kiaran P. McLaughlin
USA FAIRBANKS (USA) H5 Todd A. Pletcher
USA FROST GIANT (USA) H5 Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
USA GOTTCHA GOLD (USA) H5 Edward Plesa, Jr.
USA GRASSHOPPER (USA) C4 Neil J. Howard
USA MAST TRACK (USA) C4 Robert J. Frankel
USA OUT OF CONTROL (BRZ) H5 Robert J. Frankel
USA PAST THE POINT (USA) C4 Eoin G. Harty
USA PYRO (USA) C3 Steven M. Asmussen
USA STUDENT COUNCIL (USA) H6 Steven M. Asmussen
USA SURF CAT (USA) H6 Bruce Headley
USA WANDERIN BOY (USA) H7 Nicholas P. Zito
USA WELL ARMED (USA) G5 Eoin G. Harty
USA ZANJERO (USA) C4 Steven M. Asmussen
USA ZAPPA (USA) G6 John W. Sadler
Where is Tiago on that list! Blasphemy.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:18 AM
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If TCC goes to Japan and wins does he win NY Bred HOY ? Over Commentator ?
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:25 AM
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I like the gamesmanship BTW. I like that these guys will send horses abroad to run. Yes, I think TCC connections are offered a free trip to Japan they should accept. Hopefully hell make a good account of himself.

As for Smooth Air, they are lucky hes not going over there
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:44 AM
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I like the gamesmanship BTW. I like that these guys will send horses abroad to run. Yes, I think TCC connections are offered a free trip to Japan they should accept. Hopefully hell make a good account of himself.

As for Smooth Air, they are lucky hes not going over there

Why, would he be an impediment for last?
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:08 PM
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Why, would he be an impediment for last?
I'll take even money he DOESNT finish last.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:21 PM
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Anyone know of a place to find out who is LIKELY to run?
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:41 PM
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I think he was referring to Smooth Air.

Either way, TCC is a nice horse and a great story. I have a soft spot for NYB's myself. And I totally get that it's a chance of a lifetime for the connections. But, this is crazy. I just hope he comes back like he left.
Was referring to this...

but I agree with you, I just hope he comes back the way he left. He has the potential to make some nice money next year in what figures to be a miserable handicap division. Can pick off the Cornhusker Handicaps of the world.

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Then Smooth Air should go as well?

What does " he deserves a shot " mean? Roll the dice? You have been inundated by too much trainerspeak. If he deserves anything it is to be placed in spots he can win.....which his connections have done a good job of doing....until now. Plus, he was scratched with a small issue a week ago.....and now he's shipping half way around the world to finish last.

He does not " deserve " that.
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:04 PM
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Obviously without pps it's hard to predict anything but it's hard to believe he isn't the favorite to finish last.

However, thanks for the generous offer, Phil, of even money. I will take the appropriate 25-1 even without the pps.
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:05 PM
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Obviously without pps it's hard to predict anything but it's hard to believe he isn't the favorite to finish last.

However, thanks for the generous offer, Phil, of even money. I will take the appropriate 25-1 even without the pps.
25-1 is the favorite to finish last?
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