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Old 11-12-2008, 03:58 PM
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Default An interesting pipe dream

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Old 11-12-2008, 04:12 PM
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Philly Park's only two racing months are jan & feb when its freezing???

Calder only races in sep & oct? according to his plan fl will have absolutely no racing for 6 months out of the year. same with nyra - no racing 6 months out of the year.

He must have crack in his "pipe" dream.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:13 PM
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Racing sure would be brutal after August.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:19 PM
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Racing sure would be brutal after August.
I like this:

New York racing opens in March with Aqueduct and continues through August consecutively. The circuit runners can then easily move across the bridge to Meadowlands in Sept.-Oct. before a necessary winter break. When January rolls around, top NYRA barns can compete at Gulfstream as per usual, while lesser runners can compete for huge slots purses at nearby Philadelphia Park.

Could Meadowlands possibly handle all the NY horses AND the NJ horses in one two month meet?

And a necessary winter break? How about all the horsemen who make their living during the winter in NY?
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:23 PM
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I like this:

New York racing opens in March with Aqueduct and continues through August consecutively. The circuit runners can then easily move across the bridge to Meadowlands in Sept.-Oct. before a necessary winter break. When January rolls around, top NYRA barns can compete at Gulfstream as per usual, while lesser runners can compete for huge slots purses at nearby Philadelphia Park.

Could Meadowlands possibly handle all the NY horses AND the NJ horses in one two month meet?

And a necessary winter break? How about all the horsemen who make their living during the winter in NY?
Yeah, there are a lot of holes in his plan. The overall idea of tracks cooperating is good but his logistics are pretty terrible.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:26 PM
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Yeah, there are a lot of holes in his plan. The overall idea of tracks cooperating is good but his logistics are pretty terrible.
yes... I'm glad his dream will be staying in his pipe!

Was a slightly interesting read though.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:52 PM
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Further, horsemen simply don't want to budge. Whether we're talking finances, drug policies or race days, horsemen remain a group firmly against change.

The horseman that I talked to claims that Churchill Downs won't come to the table.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:21 PM
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And Hawthorne is the only racetrack in America that gets two meets?!
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:40 PM
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This is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:42 PM
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This is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

Just curious, why so?
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:43 PM
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Just curious, why so?
Really?
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:45 PM
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Really?

For an idiot like me that has no real clue on the inner workings of things at the track, yes.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:50 PM
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I like this:

New York racing opens in March with Aqueduct and continues through August consecutively. The circuit runners can then easily move across the bridge to Meadowlands in Sept.-Oct. before a necessary winter break. When January rolls around, top NYRA barns can compete at Gulfstream as per usual, while lesser runners can compete for huge slots purses at nearby Philadelphia Park.

Could Meadowlands possibly handle all the NY horses AND the NJ horses in one two month meet? no

And a necessary winter break? How about all the horsemen who make their living during the winter in NY?
it would be tough on a lot of big a trainers who don't do as well at BEL and SAR
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:55 PM
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For an idiot like me that has no real clue on the inner workings of things at the track, yes.
The travel involved is insane. Because so many of these tracks are so far apart you would need to move your whole operation 4 or 5 times a year. What about stalls? The number of stalls at each track varies widely. What about statebred programs? What about the tracks left out? Keeneland has no spring meet? Belmont has no fall meet? No racing in NY after Saratoga? The whole thing is stupid. It isnt even a good pipe dream. Mountaineer only runs in Jan and Feb?
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:58 PM
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The travel involved is insane. Because so many of these tracks are so far apart you would need to move your whole operation 4 or 5 times a year. What about stalls? The number of stalls at each track varies widely. What about statebred programs? What about the tracks left out? Keeneland has no spring meet? Belmont has no fall meet? No racing in NY after Saratoga? The whole thing is stupid. It isnt even a good pipe dream. Mountaineer only runs in Jan and Feb?

Thanks. I never think about those kind of things. I just bet on 'em and watch 'em run in circles
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:59 PM
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chuck - nyra wouldn't go for it - 6 months of no action with slots coming to Aqu in the plans doesn't make sense
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:03 PM
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chuck - nyra wouldn't go for it - 6 months of no action with slots coming to Aqu in the plans doesn't make sense
No one would go for it.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:11 PM
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When ESPN hired Plonk they decided not to fire him because he was severely retarded. They also noticed he was gay so they had no choice but to keep him because they couldn't afford the liability of a lawsuit...especially after the Sean Salisbury fiasco. Having said all that, I consider him a top tier journalist for a retarded gay guy. I just think he rubs people the wrong way. I wasn't surprised by this article because he's retarded and fruity.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:14 PM
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The travel involved is insane. Because so many of these tracks are so far apart you would need to move your whole operation 4 or 5 times a year. What about stalls? The number of stalls at each track varies widely. What about statebred programs? What about the tracks left out? Keeneland has no spring meet? Belmont has no fall meet? No racing in NY after Saratoga? The whole thing is stupid. It isnt even a good pipe dream. Mountaineer only runs in Jan and Feb?
You say this like it's a bad thing


Seriously though... while the number of racing dates could certainly be downsized, eliminating the Belmont fall meet is laughable. Aqueduct 3 months a year with a 3 month break in Dec-Feb makes a lot of sense... let the good NYRA horses go to GP, the mediocre ones to Philly, and the really bad ones some time off.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:16 PM
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i like the big a in the winter , of the 3 ny tracks , i think it gives the ny player the best chance to win
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