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Old 12-08-2008, 11:29 PM
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While reading my Sunday DRF in hand as opposed to online my eyes fell upon a story that begged explanation. The older brother of 2008 Woodbine meet winning jockey Patrick Husbands (Simon) was suspended for a full year for his ride on #2 Bug's Boy in the 3rd race on November 30th placing second on a 14-1 shot by 3/4's of a length. Interestingly his brother Patrick rode the winner #2 Come on Love favored at slightly more than 3/2.

Senior steward Richard Grubb had this to say....

"Husbands did not persevere with his mount throughout the race or demonstrate an effort to ensure the best and fastest race of which his mount was capable," read the stewards' ruling, which was released Saturday.

Stewards Richard Grubb, Fenton Platts, and Gunnar Lindberg heard testimony from Husbands and trainer John LeBlanc, whose wife, Maggie, and son, Douglas, own Bug's Boy. Robert King, secretary manager of the Jockeys' Benefit Association of Canada, also was present.

Since replays are dissected here for not only the action seen but also the INTENT of actions seen and unseen, I am curious if anyone else sees Simon Husbands cause his own horse to check from the jockey's own slight startle midstretch due to the oncoming 3rd place finisher #1 Blu Them Away. Once that happens S. Husbands does not seem to have a chance to win even though he WAS in position to do so prior to the jocks reaction. Does the penalty fit the crime?

There are unfortunately too many third and fourth place jocks who don't ride to the wire in this country, thus part of me wants to cheer this ruling as payback for tri's and super's lost from noncompetitive rides but unless there is history here on S Husbands part I didn't see this as horrendously egregious.

The second part of the question is to poll you all for the names of jocks you think are most guilty of these rides that are "noncompetitive".

Replay available free at CalRacing.com (Nov 30 Race 3)
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:43 PM
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It's too late for me to comment on this tonight.. I'll have to get back to you tomorrow
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:47 PM
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It's too late for me to comment on this tonight.. I'll have to get back to you tomorrow

Good night little lady it'll be here tomorrow.....
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:54 PM
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There is no way any of us can tell if a jockey should "ride" his horse to the wire completely. The horse can be injured for all we know!! and only the jockey can feel that. I'd never question a jockey's decision to let the horse finish under their own power.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:58 PM
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There is no way any of us can tell if a jockey should "ride" his horse to the wire completely. The horse can be injured for all we know!! and only the jockey can feel that. I'd never question a jockey's decision to let the horse finish under their own power.

So you think this was bogus??
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:12 AM
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Surprises me that little is made of this!!
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:28 AM
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Surprises me that little is made of this!!
Give it some time Doc...It's got to ferment some overnight...lol

They will be all over it by noon..mark my words.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:37 AM
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So you think this was bogus??
There's really no way to tell for sure, unless you tape recorded them before the race plotting what they were going to do.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:50 AM
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Surprises me that little is made of this!!
It is because it is Woodbine. Not many Woodbine players here so it goes unnoticed.

There has to be a history with S. Husbands that I am too lazy to research. That is a huge suspension for one ride. Not perservering is a major crime (and very tough to police) and I applaud the stewards, but one year? Wow.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:07 AM
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While reading my Sunday DRF in hand as opposed to online my eyes fell upon a story that begged explanation. The older brother of 2008 Woodbine meet winning jockey Patrick Husbands (Simon) was suspended for a full year for his ride on #2 Bug's Boy in the 3rd race on November 30th placing second on a 14-1 shot by 3/4's of a length. Interestingly his brother Patrick rode the winner #2 Come on Love favored at slightly more than 3/2.

Senior steward Richard Grubb had this to say....

"Husbands did not persevere with his mount throughout the race or demonstrate an effort to ensure the best and fastest race of which his mount was capable," read the stewards' ruling, which was released Saturday.

Stewards Richard Grubb, Fenton Platts, and Gunnar Lindberg heard testimony from Husbands and trainer John LeBlanc, whose wife, Maggie, and son, Douglas, own Bug's Boy. Robert King, secretary manager of the Jockeys' Benefit Association of Canada, also was present.

Since replays are dissected here for not only the action seen but also the INTENT of actions seen and unseen, I am curious if anyone else sees Simon Husbands cause his own horse to check from the jockey's own slight startle midstretch due to the oncoming 3rd place finisher #1 Blu Them Away. Once that happens S. Husbands does not seem to have a chance to win even though he WAS in position to do so prior to the jocks reaction. Does the penalty fit the crime?

There are unfortunately too many third and fourth place jocks who don't ride to the wire in this country, thus part of me wants to cheer this ruling as payback for tri's and super's lost from noncompetitive rides but unless there is history here on S Husbands part I didn't see this as horrendously egregious.

The second part of the question is to poll you all for the names of jocks you think are most guilty of these rides that are "noncompetitive".

Replay available free at CalRacing.com (Nov 30 Race 3)
On Sunday, I mentioned nothing bothers me more than non efforts by Jockies citing Mike Smith's ride on Devils Afleet.

Simon Husbands' ride was peculiar given the announcer even pointed out in the stretch the horse hadn't been asked yet, and when he was clear he certainly didn't try his best to win the race judging by the tape. Bettors have to be protected for the good of the game and this sends a clear message to riders to perservere on their mounts, whether it's for w/p/s or trifecta players.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:19 AM
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Stewards Richard Grubb, Fenton Platts, and Gunnar Lindberg heard testimony from Husbands and trainer John LeBlanc, whose wife, Maggie, and son, Douglas, own Bug's Boy.
How can any ruling by people with those names be taken seriously?
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:42 AM
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How can any ruling by people with those names be taken seriously?
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:03 AM
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It is because it is Woodbine. Not many Woodbine players here so it goes unnoticed.

There has to be a history with S. Husbands that I am too lazy to research. That is a huge suspension for one ride. Not perservering is a major crime (and very tough to police) and I applaud the stewards, but one year? Wow.
what wasn't mentioned in the initial post about the story is that the husbands who won the race was vying for the riding title. there is the thought that the bro didn't persevere in order to help his sibling win the title.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:37 AM
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why is riding title that important more so then riding the race through for the horseplayers.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:38 AM
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why is riding title that important more so then riding the race through for the horseplayers.

I don't think it is. There is likely more to this story than currently written. The replay of the race is not all that convincing and unless more evidence is released on appeal this will have difficulty holding up. I couldn't find anything on Simon Husbands being disciplined prior.
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The lollipop guild will appeal on behalf of Ozzie Canseco.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:25 AM
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There is no way any of us can tell if a jockey should "ride" his horse to the wire completely. The horse can be injured for all we know!! and only the jockey can feel that. I'd never question a jockey's decision to let the horse finish under their own power.
Don't forget the Owner and the Trainer were also present in the hearing, they could have went to bat for Husbands if they wanted to, given the length of this suspension it would seem they were reluctant to do so. Though it is just speculation on my part.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:41 AM
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It certainly didn't look like he was trying all that hard at any point in the stretch and it's the kind of race that would have made me furious as a bettor, and at the very least it's suspicious based on Patrick's title fight.

Would be interested to know all of the details that went into it.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:16 PM
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OK Gang I am Going to try and shed a little light on this for you guys I do know Patrick and Simon Husbands very well. THese to guys are brothers but they really don't get along that well. Simon would be one of the last peope to try and help his brother win a riding title.

CSC the owner and trainer which in this case is all in the family did go to bat for Simon, Attached below is a Statement from John Leblanc on a local Blog of Jennifer Morrison. One thing to remember is that this statement was made before Simon Was Suspended.


December 2, 2008
Well, here it is straight from the trainer, husband and father of the owners, as well as exercise rider of Bug’s Boy.


While I’m not a regular reader of the Thoroughblog site, it was brought to my attention that Ms. Morrison had made quite a mission of casting doubt on the integrity and professionalism of Simon Husbands in his handling of this horse during the running of the 3rd race on Sunday, November 30th.


Ms. Morrison neither contacted myself nor Simon for comment before her widespread, damaging remarks were published.

While it was stated, as a follow up the next day, on her blog, that other sites have discussed this issue, I will remind that the credentials held by this blog editor, are quite sold when innuendos such as these are made.

To this end I feel I must respond in Simon’s defense. I have had a great working relationship with Simon over the years, and can not speak highly enough of his honesty, integrity and willingness to assist me in my job to help a horse achieve it’s maximum potential.

Bug’s Boy was ridden by Simon exactly as I instructed him and as we discussed.

This horse dropped in for $ 16,000., last start and hit a brick wall and stopped immediately, as soon as Simon began to get aggressive with him, as many of you fault him for not doing on Sunday.

After talking to Simon, after the race and experimenting while I galloped him in the morning, I wanted to try something different. I told Simon to keep him covered up as long as possible.

Tap him on the shoulder, and DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT PUSH HIM, or HIT him, but rather hold him on the bit and nudge him.

As you can see Simon’s attention to the instruction resulted in the horse’s best finish yet. He is not the 1st horse I’ve trained that could not be hit!

This horse also did not switch leads down the stretch once again until he crossed the wire, compromising his late burst. Galloping him every morning, I can tell you he is a very quirky horse. As well, by his race record, a good horseplayer might suspect that we have been dealing with some issues!

While we wish Patrick well in his quest for the title, I believe that he’s plenty talented enough and doesn’t need his brother to be aiding him in the outcome of a race, as Ms. Morrison’s innuendo suggested in her public forum….

It should also be pointed out that I sent out 3 of our family owned horses to run the best races of their careers, with a Mdn.Alw. win, and 2, 2nd place finishes….all 3 ridden by Simon Husbands.

While we were ecstatic with the improvement Bug’s Boy showed on Sunday, still he did not win, and make no mistake, that’s what he, Simon and our family went there to do~

John LeBlanc, Jr



I have watched this race over and over And I firmly Believe that Simon Rode this horse Per instructions from the Trainer.
OK guys your thoughts on this.

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