1/31 (GP): Donn H. (Gr. I); Holy Bull (Gr. III); MSW (Nicanor debut)

[Kasept]

7th (4:12) Holy Bull S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Bruce N Autumn Prado E S 114 L
2 Danger to Society Albarado R J 114 L
3 Bear's Rocket Desormeaux K J 114 L
4 Saratoga Sinner Leparoux J R 114 L
5 El Crespo Castellano J J 114 L
6 Rockland Lezcano J 114 L
7 Stately Character McCauley W H 120 L
8 Idol Maker Velazquez J R 114 L
9 Nowhere to Hide Garcia Alan 114 L
10 West Side Bernie Trujillo E 122 L
11 Beethoven Borel C H 122 L



8th (4:43) Maiden Special Weight

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds | Purse: $40,000

1 Unbridled Cardinal Leparoux J R 122 L
2 Big Flirt Lopez P 122 L
3 Andiron Coa E M 122 L
4 Nicanor Prado E S 122 FTL
5 Warrior's Reward Borel C H 122
6 Allrightsreserved Velazquez J R 122 L
7 Boyhood Dream Baird E T 122 FTL
8 Il Postino Velasquez C 122 L
9 Trust the Deputy Garcia Alan 122 L
10 Dubinsky Castellano J J 122 L
11 Single Malt Douglas R R 122 FTL
12 Audeamus Trujillo E 122 FTL
AE Stayonit Coa E M 122 L



9th (5:14) Donn H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Finallymadeit Nunez E O 117 L
2 Albertus Maximus Garcia Alan 120 L
3 Anak Nakal Bravo J 117 L
4 Bullsbay Velazquez J R 114 L
5 A. P. Arrow Desormeaux K J 115 Blk-On L
6 On Board Again Coa E M 112 L
7 Arson Squad Prado E S 119 L
8 Sir Whimsey Albarado R J 116 L
9 Great Hunter Castellano J J 116 L
10 Einstein (BRZ) Leparoux J R 122 L

[Linny]

The Holy Bull and the Nicanor maiden may be better races than the Donn. They certainly are when age and experience are factored in. In fact, I think that the ML favorite from both of those races should run in te Donn, just as an experiment.
Get ready, THIS is what passes for the "older male" division.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

7th (4:12) Holy Bull S. (G3)



8th (4:43) Maiden Special Weight

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds | Purse: $40,000

1 Unbridled Cardinal Leparoux J R 122 L
2 Big Flirt Lopez P 122 L
3 Andiron Coa E M 122 L
4 Nicanor Prado E S 122 FTL
5 Warrior's Reward Borel C H 122
6 Allrightsreserved Velazquez J R 122 L
7 Boyhood Dream Baird E T 122 FTL
8 Il Postino Velasquez C 122 L
9 Trust the Deputy Garcia Alan 122 L
10 Dubinsky Castellano J J 122 L
11 Single Malt Douglas R R 122 FTL
12 Audeamus Trujillo E 122 FTL
AE Stayonit Coa E M 122 L

Anyone want to guess what kind of ridiculous odds Nicanor goes off at? A full field of 12 might actually spread the money around a little more, but he'll still be incredibly overbet. Wonder if they're still considering scratching him and running him in the turf MSW race a week later?

[miraja2]

Pretty quick race back for Finallymadeit.
Hopefully this time I won't talk myself into betting him.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

can this horse get a friggin break..runs every week..

[swedejxn]

don't leave out big flirt...

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Anyone want to guess what kind of ridiculous odds Nicanor goes off at? A full field of 12 might actually spread the money around a little more, but he'll still be incredibly overbet. Wonder if they're still considering scratching him and running him in the turf MSW race a week later?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Anyone want to guess what kind of ridiculous odds Nicanor goes off at? A full field of 12 might actually spread the money around a little more, but he'll still be incredibly overbet.
...

not enough fan money in these pools , blame the economy , blame racings egocentric underdeveloped state

solitaire , cool coal man (who ran a hell of a race), twilight meteor all below freezing on the board. No fan favoritism whatsoever.

the bulk of the money seems to be wary of the semi-obvious underlay traps

dog-eat-dog pools

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Anyone want to guess what kind of ridiculous odds Nicanor goes off at? A full field of 12 might actually spread the money around a little more, but he'll still be incredibly overbet. Wonder if they're still considering scratching him and running him in the turf MSW race a week later?

I agree, the money will be spread out a bit, but I could see Nicanor going off at even money, probably lower. This horse has an incredible following. I don't even know what to think about it. You see some posts on blogs elsewhere, message boards, people saying they are driving to Gulfstream from NC to see him, and put some money on him. Wacky stuff. They are doing a piece on him on the CBS Evening News tonight. Quite the craze and expectations.

I have no idea what will come of him, but I hope they do well with him. I'm more tuned into the betting aspect of racing, but even I would admit, if this colt does well, this is the kind of story racing could use right about now.

Between the whole cloud of injuries and death on the track hanging above the last year or so, the terrible economy, the success of this horse would be uplifting to the sport in a major way.

[Bobby Fischer]

yea , we'll see. This is a different story

It would be real nice if Nicanor goes off as a heavy favorite, and runs an educational 3rd or 4th.
If he does beat me, he may as well look great doing it.

[miraja2]

Many of those who try to beat Nicanor will probably land on Dubinsky.
Personally, I like:
2 Big Flirt
3 Andiron

[Mike]

In the Donn, I'll tri key Arson Squad over Bullsbay and Albertus Maximus

The Holy Bull, Danger to Society has a win at Gulfstream last out at this mile and an eighth distance. I think he'll be forwardly placed into a slow pace, Beethoven will have alot to do from that post, Borel will go inside again, but this field is pretty big to work through with Danger to Society floating along up front

[dagulla]

Originally Posted by Mike

In the Donn, I'll tri key Arson Squad over Bullsbay and Albertus Maximus

The Holy Bull, Danger to Society has a win at Gulfstream last out at this mile and an eighth distance. I think he'll be forwardly placed into a slow pace, Beethoven will have alot to do from that post, Borel will go inside again, but this field is pretty big to work through with Danger to Society floating along up front

El Crespo intrigues me in the Holy Bull. 2 back he was under a long drive, never really kicked in, the turf was soft that day, and he ran a decent second. He comes back on turf again, This time he's stacked up wide the whole trip, but to me it seemed like Javier thought he was sitting on much the best, He just kept him in the clear and really cruised home. I think the break helped this horse ton's. Also that day he was never more then 2 lenghts off of a decent pace. He seems tactical, but clearly he will have to handle dirt, if he does I beleive he is a winner in here.

[King Glorious]

Danger to Society
Beethoven
Idol Maker
Nowhere to Hide

Arson Squad
Sir Whimsey
Einstein
AP Arrow

[my miss storm cat]

Einstein / Arson Squad / AP Arrow

[King Glorious]

If we thought last year's 3yo's were a bad crop..........you might not want to watch this year.

[Travis Stone]

The odds of the most talked about first timer show the power of hype... currently 4-5 with 9 MTP. I hope for the sake of racing he wins like a good thing, but I saw it posted elsewhere, the first full bro/sis angle doesn't pan out too often.

[cowgirlintexas]

9 minutes to post...... Keeping my fingers crossed for Nicky

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The odds of the most talked about first timer show the power of hype... currently 4-5 with 9 MTP. I hope for the sake of racing he wins like a good thing, but I saw it posted elsewhere, the first full bro/sis angle doesn't pan out too often.

I don't know what you're talking about. Aristocrat was a monster.

[King Glorious]

I'm hoping he gets drowned for the simple fact that message boards will become nauseating if he wins. It will be completely unbearable.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm hoping he gets drowned for the simple fact that message boards will become nauseating if he wins. It will be completely unbearable.

Well, you do have a point there....but what a great story it could be...

I guess you can go ahead and "iggy" me if he wins today