ahh..the good ole days..

GBBob · #1 02-17-2009, 02:31 PM

http://news.aol.com/article/cheney-f...159x1201242211

AeWingnut · #2 02-17-2009, 03:53 PM

Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson should have been sent on assignment never to return

GBBob · #3 02-17-2009, 03:56 PM

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Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson should have been sent on assignment never to return

yeah...gotta' get rid of anyone who opposes the machine.

or tells the truth

AeWingnut · #4 02-17-2009, 03:59 PM

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yeah...gotta' get rid of anyone who opposes the machine.

or tells the truth

so now we are supposed to believe that Val and Joe are honest and not part of the demachine?

timmgirvan · #5 02-17-2009, 04:00 PM

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yeah...gotta' get rid of anyone who opposes the machine.

or tells the truth

Dude: that mess was SO over-blown out of proportion! Real National Security fiasco

ateamstupid · #6 02-17-2009, 04:05 PM

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Dude: that mess was SO over-blown out of proportion! Real National Security fiasco

Yeah, outing an American spy for political revenge. What a yawner.

Danzig · #7 02-17-2009, 04:06 PM

it's not a good thing when officials in our own govt decide to 'out' those who are supposed to be on our side, and risking their own safety in the process. scooter libby should not have gotten a pardon. whether she was some kind of james bond type agent or not, he had no right to give out her name as tho she was a nobody.
as for whistleblowers, i liked colin cowherds take on whistleblowers. he was discussing it yesterday. he said no one likes 'blowers, because we all want things to be nice, easy, friendly-and usually 'blowers don't tell us things we want to hear, they don't give a rosie point of view. of course in his case, he was talking about jose canseco-remember how villified that guy was? but what he said turned out to be right. do you think anyone will give him an apology? no. well..that was one hell of a tangent.

at any rate, whether you've decided plame was somebody or nobody, if she was guaranteed anonymity, that should have been respected, especially by those in the executive!!!

AeWingnut · #8 02-17-2009, 04:50 PM

Valerie Plame was not 'outted'

Joe Wilson lied

traitors

brianwspencer · #9 02-17-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Valerie Plame was not 'outted'

Joe Wilson lied

traitors

This is why you're awesome, because even if the good ol' days are gone, you're always here to remind us what they sounded like.

AeWingnut · #10 02-17-2009, 05:12 PM

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This is why you're awesome, because even if the good ol' days are gone, you're always here to remind us what they sounded like.

a beacon of truth in a sea of lies and distortions

Danzig · #11 02-17-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Valerie Plame was not 'outted'

Joe Wilson lied

traitors

um yes, she was outted. her name was released in an article by robert novak, remember? now, joe wilson might be wrong or right about why she was named-i don't know if it was retribution as he says, but she most certainly was outted.

AeWingnut · #12 02-17-2009, 05:42 PM

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um yes, she was outted. her name was released in an article by robert novak, remember? now, joe wilson might be wrong or right about why she was named-i don't know if it was retribution as he says, but she most certainly was outted.

she wasn't covert

Danzig · #13 02-17-2009, 05:42 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...eyPlayers.html

On Oct. 28, 2005, a grand jury handed down a five-count indictment in the 22-month-long investigation into whether White House officials illegally leaked the identity of Valerie Plame, a covert CIA agent...

brianwspencer · #14 02-17-2009, 05:46 PM

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a beacon of truth in a sea of lies and distortions

Sorry, I thought that was WorldNetDaily

Danzig · #15 02-17-2009, 05:49 PM

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she wasn't covert

btw, this is your defense on giving out the name of someone who probably should be able, and would expect, to remain anonymous? even if you want to argue semantics on whether she was 'covert' or not, she most certainly was 'classified'. politics should not be a reason to play games with peoples' lives-there was no reason to treat someone who has served their country in so cavalier a manner. they played politics with a woman who had every reason, every expectation, that no one would ever know who she was-or where she worked.

hi_im_god · #16 02-17-2009, 07:23 PM

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she wasn't covert

she was involved with a shell company the cia set up to make connections with people that might want to sell or obtain components for wmd's. that's the way real intelligence works.

the entire operation was exposed with her.

how was it not covert?

why is she a traitor for being exposed but those that did it aren't?

AeWingnut · #17 02-17-2009, 08:06 PM

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she was involved with a shell company the cia set up to make connections with people that might want to sell or obtain components for wmd's. that's the way real intelligence works.

the entire operation was exposed with her.

how was it not covert?

why is she a traitor for being exposed but those that did it aren't?

she wasn't working for any of that
at least not sincerely

hi_im_god · #18 02-17-2009, 08:16 PM

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she wasn't working for any of that
at least not sincerely

i'm interested. can you stretch your point out?

what exactly are you saying?

GBBob · #19 02-17-2009, 08:20 PM

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she wasn't working for any of that
at least not sincerely

This has to be Clinton's fault somehow...make it happen

Cannon Shell · #20 02-17-2009, 08:33 PM

You Steve Carltons refuse to debate the "stimlus" but are going to talk about issues of national security? When your party has considered bringing charges against CIA agents who were actually doing something productive but perhaps a little too messy for the utopian vision of the world that you all seem to have? I'd rather be "outed" by the Republicans than prosecuted by the Democrats for doing my job.