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03-05-2009, 02:42 PM
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ny pick 4 today early + pic 3 payouts
I am not going to complain i an not going to cry i just want to post some numbers and people can interpet them how they feel and respond
PIck 4 win parlay for $2 pays over $18,000 , actual $2 pick 4 pays 8,686 , or less than 50% of the win parlay of the winners Pick 3 races 2-4 pays $1,739 (win parlay pays $1,031) - this seems to be a good one races 3-5 pays $1,470 (win parlay pays $2,318) - can this be right? rces 4 -6 pays $2,364 9 (win parlay pays $2,982) how does the pick 3 payoff pay more for races 2-4 then races 3-5? i just don't get it? Last edited by gales0678 : 03-05-2009 at 03:20 PM. 
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03-05-2009, 02:51 PM
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Not sure about this one, but on Foster day this year at Churchill the late P4 paid more than the P6. Only time I have seen that.
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03-05-2009, 02:53 PM
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Marty,
They are individual pools. There are vagaries. How have the guaranteed Saturday P4 pools paid like 2X the parlay these first three weeks? How does the Magna 5 pay twice the parlay some weeks? Multi-race pools are not formulamatic...
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03-05-2009, 03:10 PM
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Steve - shouldn't the p4's or p5's always pay more than the win parlay or at the very least around 85% of the win parlay? How can today's pick 4 come back only around 45% of the win parlay , i would have thought the early pick4should have paid around $25k i can understand a payout that is 80 - 90 % of the win parlay , but when we get down into the 60% or even today like the 40% range it's very strange
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03-05-2009, 04:46 PM
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You do it for enjoyment? I do it because I love the pain of running 2nd all the f'n time
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03-05-2009, 04:50 PM
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Please.. sometimes your horse finishes 4th (in a 2 horse race).
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03-05-2009, 07:06 PM
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No one has mentioned this, but since Aqueduct is the focus of the conversation, has it occured to anyone that the "Serling Effect" could be at work on the multi-race wagers? Any number of players that are simply stringing Andy's horses in P3/P4 sequences could be skewing returns.
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03-05-2009, 07:27 PM
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03-05-2009, 07:27 PM
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I'd believe the Serling effect would be the exact opposite of the GPK effect, i.e., folks run from GPK's picks like rats from a sinking ship.
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03-05-2009, 07:31 PM
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 Hello to you too John
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03-05-2009, 07:49 PM
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that is correct steve , if 1 used his horses , you would have hit both p 4's i know what happened , the guys who hit the early p4 were so elated , they cashed out , headed back to the city , made a dinner reservation and invited andy out as a thank you for him giving out so many winners, they realized they forgot to put in the late p4 but they didn't care as the early one paid telephone #s i can see the gang there now , at Del Frisco's , they have just finished the seafood appitzer that goes for a samll fortune , the steaks are on their way out , and the waitress from Alaska , who is simply breath -taking , is pouring the red wine with a big smile on her face ,asking for the winner of saturday's gotham , and she pleads come on guys everyone has to eat once and a while
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03-05-2009, 08:06 PM
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03-05-2009, 09:23 PM
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only the ones that bet today. But he needs to develop a code or audible IMO.
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03-06-2009, 10:49 AM
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The only way a win parlay is a true reflection of the pay out is if you make a straight p3 or pk4 bet. Most pk3s and 4s are wheels and every time you hit a win bet the winnings have to be split up between the horses in the next leg. Comparing the payoffs to a win parlay isnot very objective. If you had a winning ticket on any of these races . The true $2 pay out caan be calculated but a straight $2 parlay is not accurate.
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03-06-2009, 10:51 AM
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Ummmm......no.
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03-06-2009, 11:02 AM
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When I was at Toga, I was messing around with the win parlay cards and unless I am mistaken, that was exactly how it was done.
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