"His mother-in-law is dying right now".. "I'm almost done."

Kasept · #1 03-27-2009, 08:31 AM

As disgusting a case of police authority abuse as you'll see. Current Texan and former Eagle RB Ryan Moats' mother in law is dying from breast cancer, and Dallas super cop is lecturing him about running a red light and 'attitude'... Was brandishing his weapon too. Very impressive work from the city most famous for the killing of a President.

Watch the 17 minutes of video to find out what it feels like to be a black man in America.

VIDEO:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,150809

ARTICLE:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

timmgirvan · #2 03-27-2009, 08:36 AM

Very Sad situation!

NTamm1215 · #3 03-27-2009, 08:53 AM

As someone who's thankful that I am formerly a Dallasite, this is an absolutely terrible story. The video is incredibly troublesome as there is really no explanation for that behavior, especially with Moats pleading with him for quite some time.

A little something else about Dallas- the city has a long history of racism. Politically it has been a problem for quite some time and suburbs like Plano have been hotbeds for even longer.

No winners in this situation.

NT

Antitrust32 · #4 03-27-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

As someone who's thankful that I am formerly a Dallasite, this is an absolutely terrible story. The video is incredibly troublesome as there is really no explanation for that behavior, especially with Moats pleading with him for quite some time.

A little something else about Dallas- the city has a long history of racism. Politically it has been a problem for quite some time and suburbs like Plano have been hotbeds for even longer.

No winners in this situation.

NT

unfortunately, cops are terrible all across the country. Racial profiling is just so disgusting. Its real bad in the south.

I cant believe that some people dont believe it happens, but blacks and whites are just not equal in the minds of lots of power abusing cops. Eric Holder was very correct with his statement a month ago.. eventhough he got crap over it.

I've been really hoping that this is one thing Obama can "Change". Though I dont know if anyone can change it until some generations pass by.

Maybe one day we'll all be one big happy family like its supposed to be. I can always dream!

This is a very sick and sad story.

dellinger63 · #5 03-27-2009, 09:31 AM

I must admit it is a bad situation but I think a white man woud have received the same treatment. Hint don't tell a cop you have no insurance and give him a license when asked. I did not see a gun come out.

Chicago cops beat a guy in a wheel chair, in a hospital, that was far worse. And if this did happen in Chicago I think everyone including mother-in-law would be face down on the concrete at the hospital at gun point. That said I know for a fact if you're black and coming to visit me you are likely to be pulled over or at least followed by 3 different police agencies the worst being a 5-man force bordering WI. That is sickening. The Dallas situation is dfferent as the SUV was tinted and the truck was pulled over for the red light infraction not because of the skin color of the occupants. There are far better examples of police racism and abuse IMO.

Danzig · #6 03-27-2009, 09:34 AM

i agree with moats, the cop should lose his job over this. absolutely disgusting display of arrogance by the dallas policeman.

Scav · #7 03-27-2009, 09:38 AM

I can tell you this, I wouldn't have f'n stopped, I would have waved him over or did something to alert him to an emergency, when the car pulled up to the emergency room, he would have gotten the drift. Shady f'n cops

Cannon Shell · #8 03-27-2009, 09:43 AM

I agree with Dell. Cops, especially young cops love to show you who is the boss. Hell new security guards at the track love to break chops.

And Lori you know that racism isn't going to be "solved" by a black president or anyone . It cant be solved. Racism exists in every society throughout the world. Ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe, the same in africa, Asia, etc.

And this was hardly a case of racial profiling, the guy ran a red light and didn't stop when the police came after him. While the cop was extraordinarily insensitive afterwards, it is hard to say that this was racially motivated.

Kasept · #9 03-27-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I must admit it is a bad situation but I think a white man woud have received the same treatment. Hint don't tell a cop you have no insurance and give him a license when asked. I did not see a gun come out..

No.. No they wouldn't. A white man gets out of that SUV and says what Moats said, that my mother in law is dying, and the cop hustles him inside and worries about the traffic infraction... done at an empty intersection... later.

And the gun came out as acknowledged by the officer himself.

Moats was as polite as can be. You couldn't hear the "yes sirs" and "no sirs" as this surly punk cop was dressing him down? The translation of that is "Yes massah" and "No massah"..

Rationalize it all you want. This was a brazen abuse of authority and came within inches of a hate crime had the cop further misread the situation. This kid should be sitting at a desk the rest of his civil service career.

Kasept · #10 03-27-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And this was hardly a case of racial profiling, the guy ran a red light and didn't stop when the police came after him. While the cop was extraordinarily insensitive afterwards, it is hard to say that this was racially motivated.

The car had it's hazards flashing.. Paused at the empty intersection before going through.. Drove quickly but not recklessly to the ER driveway at Baylor.. Two women run inside the hospital distraught.. And the dipstick badge can't comprehend the situation.. despite being told what's happening..

Cannon Shell · #11 03-27-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

No.. No they wouldn't. A white man gets out of that SUV and says what Moats said, that my mother in law is dying, and the cop hustles him inside and worries about the traffic infraction... done at an empty intersection... later.

And the gun came out as acknowledged by the officer himself.

Moats was as polite as can be. You couldn't hear the "yes sirs" and "no sirs" as this surly punk cop was dressing him down? The translation of that is "Yes massah" and "No massah"..

Rationalize it all you want. This was a brazen abuse of authority and came within inches of a hate crime had the cop further misread the situation. This kid should be sitting at a desk the rest of his civil service career.

Steve I have white friends that have had thier asses kicked by young cops for less than this guy did in Saratoga no less.. Personally I have been treated in a similar fashion in Louisville. I am not defending the cop in any way but just saying that a lot of 25 year old cops act in this manner.

dellinger63 · #12 03-27-2009, 09:59 AM

Steve, I was driving back from a case we were following at 26th and Cal. As I headed back towards the beautiful Dan Ryan I was pulled over for no apparant reason and then boxed in by a Det car. As I opened the door I was pulled out and put face down in the dirt w/a knee on my back and gun at my head. My infraction? Driving a vehicle w/tinted windows that matched a car used in a drive-by. Many other instances have happened to me while on surveillance and small town/suburb cops have the attitude they own the street and we have no right to be there. I think it's more of a police power trip than racism cause although I tan pretty well I'm still a cracker.

PS a gun definately should not have been pulled.

Cannon Shell · #13 03-27-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

The car had it's hazards flashing.. Paused at the empty intersection before going through.. Drove quickly but not recklessly to the ER driveway at Baylor.. Two women run inside the hospital distraught.. And the dipstick badge can't comprehend the situation.. despite being told what's happening..

But making him a racist without any real evidence other than an assumption of guilt because he is white and the guy is black is wrong too. We cant just assume that every white assh ole is a racist when dealing with non white people. That is as much racial profiling as the other way. Bad guys can be bad guys without being racist. This should be a case about police using poor judgement and being extremely insensitive to a private citizens concerns, not racism unless the cop has some baggage.

Kasept · #14 03-27-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Steve I have white friends that have had thier asses kicked by young cops for less than this guy did in Saratoga no less.. Personally I have been treated in a similar fashion in Louisville. I am not defending the cop in any way but just saying that a lot of 25 year old cops act in this manner.

I've been bullied by cops as well. Police work is a thankless, dangerous job.. look at the horrific tragedy in Oakland... But common sense, decision making ability and compassion are supposed to be watch words of police duty. "To protect and serve" after all. If this kid can't figure out the scenario involved in people rushing to a hospital, how is he going to act in a truly threatening situation under duress? Based on his reaction in this low risk incident, he's a hazard to the public... be they white or black. And the DPD or any PD should be doing all they can to eliminate bullies and sadists from their forces. And I certainly agree that Saratoga-sized city cops and County Mountie types are as bad or worse with this problem as big city badges.

Kasept · #15 03-27-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But making him a racist without any real evidence other than an assumption of guilt because he is white and the guy is black is wrong too. We cant just assume that every white assh ole is a racist when dealing with non white people. That is as much racial profiling as the other way. Bad guys can be bad guys without being racist. This should be a case about police using poor judgement and being extremely insensitive to a private citizens concerns, not racism unless the cop has some baggage.

I agree. Shift the claim of racist to simple bully or persecution-complexed sadist.

mclem0822 · #16 03-27-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

As disgusting a case of police authority abuse as you'll see. Current Texan and former Eagle RB Ryan Moats' mother in law is dying from breast cancer, and Dallas super cop is lecturing him about running a red light and 'attitude'... Was brandishing his weapon too. Very impressive work from the city most famous for the killing of a President.

Watch the 17 minutes of video to find out what it feels like to be a black man in America.

VIDEO:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,150809

ARTICLE:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

Holly F**ing ****! This is outrageous Steve! As one who didn't make it to the hospital in time when my own mother passed back in 1998, this is very painful to watch.

I hope he sues the department, and this a**hole cop is brought up on charges, it's disgusting! Show a little compassion here! That really pisses me off!

Antitrust32 · #17 03-27-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I agree with Dell. Cops, especially young cops love to show you who is the boss. Hell new security guards at the track love to break chops.

And Lori you know that racism isn't going to be "solved" by a black president or anyone . It cant be solved. Racism exists in every society throughout the world. Ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe, the same in africa, Asia, etc.

And this was hardly a case of racial profiling, the guy ran a red light and didn't stop when the police came after him. While the cop was extraordinarily insensitive afterwards, it is hard to say that this was racially motivated.

I know that racism isnt going to be solved by a black president, and thats not what I meant to say.. I just hope that somehow there could be rules prohibiting racial profiling with cops so that it wont be accepted anymore. But I dont know if that could happen.

And I very much disagree with your that this isnt a case of racial profiling. He may have not initially been pulled over because of his skin color but what happened after was.

mclem0822 · #18 03-27-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

The car had it's hazards flashing.. Paused at the empty intersection before going through.. Drove quickly but not recklessly to the ER driveway at Baylor.. Two women run inside the hospital distraught.. And the dipstick badge can't comprehend the situation.. despite being told what's happening..

That's right, which the freakin cop could clearly see and which Moats was trying to explain, but this jag-off cop would not even listen!

Antitrust32 · #19 03-27-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

No.. No they wouldn't. A white man gets out of that SUV and says what Moats said, that my mother in law is dying, and the cop hustles him inside and worries about the traffic infraction... done at an empty intersection... later.

And the gun came out as acknowledged by the officer himself.

Moats was as polite as can be. You couldn't hear the "yes sirs" and "no sirs" as this surly punk cop was dressing him down? The translation of that is "Yes massah" and "No massah"..

Rationalize it all you want. This was a brazen abuse of authority and came within inches of a hate crime had the cop further misread the situation. This kid should be sitting at a desk the rest of his civil service career.

Antitrust32 · #20 03-27-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But making him a racist without any real evidence other than an assumption of guilt because he is white and the guy is black is wrong too. We cant just assume that every white assh ole is a racist when dealing with non white people. That is as much racial profiling as the other way. Bad guys can be bad guys without being racist. This should be a case about police using poor judgement and being extremely insensitive to a private citizens concerns, not racism unless the cop has some baggage.

i feel this statement is just completely off base.