Informed Decision

[the_fat_man]

Explosive POLY/TURF-like late run once clear by this horse yesterday.

What an impressive effort, after lacking room and losing momentum.

[blackthroatedwind]

She has run well on the dirt in the past......and considering how close the finish was among many horses, and who was second, it wasn't a spectacular effort.

She's a really nice horse.

[the_fat_man]

Let's assume we're on the same page as to your argument why her effort wasn't as impressive as I thought. Spelling it out, it would be that ID, while waiting for room, was in limbo while the closers blew by her, and thus had the late energy to last move the field. This is certainly the case, and quite similar to the setup she got against Ventura. However, I thought it was still impressive given that the race was on dirt.

If this is the case, I have a hard time understanding your position concerning the Withers.

[Bobby Fischer]

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[CSC]

Leparioux is supposedly a very good and patient rider, however from my experience from betting the horses he's on he gets in these positions far too often. Luckily in this case the horse was good enough to overcome it.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

Leparioux is supposedly a very good and patient rider, however from my experience from betting the horses he's on he gets in these positions far too often. Luckily in this case the horse was good enough to overcome it.

While never flashy, I've come to realize in watching his races, that Leparoux is, arguably, the best jock in the country. He's patient as hell, almost never makes a premature move, never panics, and can finish with the best of them. He's smooth as hell, and appears to never be going all out.

This filly has gotten very good setups in her past two races; but she's also run when asked. But she should never have beaten Ventura, as she's just not that good.

[NTamm1215]

If there is a rider in the game who's shown his timing is his strong suit, it's Leparoux. From back in 2006 when he rode Gorella to victories in the Just a Game and Beverly D to last fall at SA when he rode Forever Together perfectly, never panicking despite the pace being a dawdle, the guy finishes well.

He's a very, very good rider.

NT

[the_fat_man]

The ride of the year could've been Leparoux' on Winter View. In a ridiculously slow paced race, he sits chilly, last, inside, behind horses, doesn't swing her wide on the turn, coming between horses, and, thus, doesn't move her prematurely. By letting the others run on the turn, he's able to last move them, but last move them correctly, when they straighten out. As such, he runs down a field that ran a 27.78 1st split and a 26.00 2nd split, etc..

This race should be used as an example of how TIMING of MOVES is superordinate (a bigger set) to FRACTIONS (pace of race).

[philcski]

Sheppard/Augustin/Leparoux absolutely on fire right now. How many stakes have they won in KY since the start of the KEE meet?

[randallscott35]

That race came up pretty slow figure wise. I hope to play against that horse in the future.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

While never flashy, I've come to realize in watching his races, that Leparoux is, arguably, the best jock in the country. He's patient as hell, almost never makes a premature move, never panics, and can finish with the best of them. He's smooth as hell, and appears to never be going all out.

This filly has gotten very good setups in her past two races; but she's also run when asked. But she should never have beaten Ventura, as she's just not that good.

He's patient, a good trait to have on turf courses. While I agree he is a very good turf jockey the patience sometimes doesn't work on dirt as well. To me he's from the Pat Day school of riding, he'll give you heart palpitations when you are on him, right now I don't know who the best rider is, I'm not sure he is to me yet. I'll agree he times the wire as well as anyone, however the sense of pace, making all the right moves in the body of races, timing that Jerry Bailey once exhibited once in his career, I haven't seen anyone today with those qualities.

[GBBob]

We used Leparoux and Castenon once each last month at KEE...

Jock fees:

Leparoux: $65
Castenon: $80

go figure..

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

We used Leparoux and Castenon once each last month at KEE...

Jock fees:

Leparoux: $65
Castenon: $80

go figure..

haha that's pretty funny, do you know any of the other jock fees? Gomez has to be up there.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by CSC

Leparioux is supposedly a very good and patient rider, however from my experience from betting the horses he's on he gets in these positions far too often. Luckily in this case the horse was good enough to overcome it.

i agree, its great on grass but he gets "stuck" alot in the dirt races. the horse won that race, as is usually the case. he got her shuffled back, in traffic. how can anyone fault this horse? i believe shes had 9 starts with 7 victories. he is like pat day, he will clean up on that circuit but i don't see him dominating if he comes up here this summer.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by GBBob

We used Leparoux and Castenon once each last month at KEE...

Jock fees:

Leparoux: $65
Castenon: $80

go figure..

Leparoux is Euro's..Castenon is Peso's

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Leparoux is Euro's..Castenon is Peso's

Haha. Touche.