Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > Joe Silverio Simulcast Center
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-09-2009, 07:16 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,487
Default 5/9: Belmont/Hollywood (P4's)

Another rotten weather day washed Churchill's late races away entirely, and might as well have done the same at Belmont. Off the turf demolished the late quad, though improbable $30 Contessa horse in the 7th, longest number of 5 running, boosted the P4 into a more generous $170.

Back to Belmont today with good Peter Pan the highlight within the $350k guaranteed P4, and glance at Hollywood 4 as well where intriguing LeRoy is the feature.


BELMONT PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


7th: MSW, 3+, 6f (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #5 Cabaret Cowboy 3-1: Away since fall; 2nd in Musket Man's maidenbreaker.. WON
Best Value: #1e Frankel entry 10-1: Both make real dirt debuts here.. 5th/7th
Next Best: #3 Ricoriatoa 6-1: Moves to organic surface and adds hood.. 2nd
Exotics Use: #9 Abu Racer 30-1: Big number gets blinks: 21% W move for Assaf.. 9th


8th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 6f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #1 (POE) SCR
Best Value: #7 Captain Backfire 6-1: Circling back to good effort.. 5th
Next Best: #10 Millirock 9-2: Telegraphs intent by recalling Ramon.. 6th
Exotics Use: #6 Come Soon 10-1: DiPrima wheels turf/dirt in 10 days.. 3rd


9th: 56th Peter Pan (Gr. II), 3yo, 9f (DD)

Best Value: #4 Brave Victory 8-1: Toss poly run; Value if one turn 9f suits.. 3rd
Most Likely: #6 Imperial Council 2-1: Underlay number on bad paddock actor.. 2nd
Next Best: #3 Charitable Man 3-1: Blue Grass ill-advised; Obvious if back to 2yo form..
Exotics Use: #1 Stately Character 15-1: Seems certain to pick up pieces late.. 7th


10th: NYB-MSW, 3+, 8.5f-T (Super)

Best Value: #3 Longing for Malibu 5-1 8th
Most Likely: #5 SCR
Next Best: #10 John Wyatt 2-1 2nd
Super Add: #7 Monastir 12-1 3rd


<$75 P4 Play:

7: 1-3-5-9
8: 1-7-10
9: 3-4-6
10: 3-10

4x3x3x2 = $72



HOLLYWOOD PARK


PRE-SCRATCHES


6th: S/ALW, 3+, 6.5f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Pretty damn good starter ALW.. After the top pick, it's a grab bag...

Most Likely: #12 Deluxe Cat 3-1 WON
Best Value: #11 My Man Sumo 10-1 5th
Next Best: #10 Turkish Victory 6-1 9th
Super Add: #2 My King 8-1 7th


7th: ALW/N2X, 4+, 1m-T (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #5 Wild Diplomat 5-2 4th
Next Best: #6 Victory Pete 2-1 WON
Best Value: #2 Indian Sun 6-1 6th


8th: 30th Mervyn Leroy H. (Gr. II), 3+, 8.5f (DD)

Most Likely: #4 Rail Trip 4-5 2nd
Best Value: #6 Aggie Engineer 6-1 6th
Next Best: #3 Ball Four 6-1 WON


9th: MSW, 3+, 9f-T (Super, Super High 5)

Most Likely: #6 Hidden Trail 3-1 6th
Best Value: #8 Egypt 4-1 WON
Next Best: #7 Holladay Road 7-2 4th
Exotics Use: #2 Caspian 6-1 7th
High 5 Play: #10 Kumiva 6-1 2nd


<$75 P4 Play:

6: 10-11-12
7: 5-6
8: ALL
9: 6-8

3x2x6x2 = $72

$1 Pick 4 (12--6-3-8) Paid $811.90


Good luck!
Steve
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans

Last edited by Kasept : 05-10-2009 at 06:50 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-09-2009, 08:32 AM
Holland Hacker's Avatar
Holland Hacker Holland Hacker is offline
Narragansett Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Western New Jersey
Posts: 598
Default

Is it safe to assume that they'll be OFF THE TURF today? We had overnight rain and i assume that it also hit Belmont.
__________________
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those that matter don't mind, and those that mind, dont matter."
Theodore Seuss Geisel
"Dr. Seuss"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-09-2009, 08:37 AM
docicu3 docicu3 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,778
Default

Is the weather holding enough for turf racing?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-09-2009, 08:41 AM
MaTH716's Avatar
MaTH716 MaTH716 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 11,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by docicu3
Is the weather holding enough for turf racing?
Probably not, looks like another damp one here on the Tri state area.
Did you get any sleep last night?
__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-09-2009, 09:07 AM
gales0678 gales0678 is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: new york
Posts: 3,670
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept

BELMONT PARK


PRE-SCRATCHES


7th: MSW, 3+, 6f (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #5 Cabaret Cowboy 3-1: Away since fall; 2nd in Musket Man's maidenbreaker..
Best Value: #1e Frankel entry 10-1: Both make real dirt debuts here..
Next Best: #3 Ricoriatoa 6-1: Moves to organic surface and adds hood..
Exotics Use: #9 Abu Racer 30-1: Big number gets blinks: 21% W move for Assaf..

steve - i asked the old guy at the beverly hills hotel about these 2 and he told me they were a bunch of crows i told him i wasn't buying it ...they'll be on my ticket too

Last edited by Kasept : 05-09-2009 at 09:20 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-09-2009, 10:39 AM
Bigsmc's Avatar
Bigsmc Bigsmc is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,577
Default

Am I wasting my time looking at these turf races?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-09-2009, 11:16 AM
VOL JACK's Avatar
VOL JACK VOL JACK is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: @VOLJACK79
Posts: 2,578
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Another rotten weather day washed Churchill's late races away entirely, and might as well have done the same at Belmont. Off the turf demolished the late quad, though improbable $30 Contessa horse in the 7th, longest number of 5 running, boosted the P4 into a more generous $170.

Back to Belmont today with good Peter Pan the highlight within the $350k guaranteed P4, and glance at Hollywood 4 as well where intriguing LeRoy is the feature.


BELMONT PARK

Congrats to Contessa for getting off the duck....Great Trainer.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-09-2009, 11:18 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,487
Default

BELMONT P4 SCR'S

http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/BEL-changes.asp

7

4 Big Stack Early


10

1 Pernice Early
5 Burnished Copper Early
8 Mind Boggling Early
12 Winloc's Saint Ray Early
13 Orient Song Early
14 Compliance Officer Early
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-09-2009, 11:37 AM
asudevil's Avatar
asudevil asudevil is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,574
Default

Stevie B. cappin The Wood!!!!
__________________
"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-09-2009, 01:08 PM
atolunch's Avatar
atolunch atolunch is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,219
Default

Steve,

In the 7th at Belmont, you use the #9 Abu Race in your write ups and as an exotic add, but use the #8 Bimini (7-2) with Prado in the P4. Just curious if this was intentional or accident.

Thanks as always for your insights and plays, and belated congrats on your great P4 score the other day!

Here's to cashing again today, BOL.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-09-2009, 01:29 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,487
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by atolunch
Steve,

In the 7th at Belmont, you use the #9 Abu Race in your write ups and as an exotic add, but use the #8 Bimini (7-2) with Prado in the P4. Just curious if this was intentional or accident.

Thanks as always for your insights and plays, and belated congrats on your great P4 score the other day!

Here's to cashing again today, BOL.
The 9.. Thx! And thx re: Thurs.

G/L today...

Derby Barbie is dragging me out on Garden Center run...
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-09-2009, 03:33 PM
pointman's Avatar
pointman pointman is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 15,693
Default

Belmont 6th:

$20EXB 2,12
$1 super 2,12/2,11,12/2,3,8,11,12/2,3,8,11,12

Good Luck!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-09-2009, 03:58 PM
XIIPointStables XIIPointStables is offline
Washington Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 858
Default

Jumping into the Belmont P4:

1,5,6,8
1,9 - the 8 as PTF
3,6
3,10,15

Good luck!

$48 play
$110 winner

Lucky hit getting the 8...get chalky! Kept me out of the race to race trouble I would have been in.

Last edited by XIIPointStables : 05-09-2009 at 06:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-09-2009, 05:34 PM
hi_im_god's Avatar
hi_im_god hi_im_god is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,043
Default

is it possible someone might not be alive in this p4?

i'm praying i get my $54 back.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-09-2009, 06:16 PM
dagolfer33's Avatar
dagolfer33 dagolfer33 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 2,524
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XIIPointStables
Jumping into the Belmont P4:

1,5,6,8
1,9
3,6
3,10,15

Good luck!
Winner
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Rudeboyelvis Rudeboyelvis is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,440
Default

Holly P4

9,10,12//5,6//1,3,4,6//6,8,10

72.00 811.90

Last edited by Rudeboyelvis : 05-09-2009 at 08:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-09-2009, 06:36 PM
TitanSooner TitanSooner is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Los Alamitos
Posts: 1,303
Default

hol late p4

6: 6,9,12
7: 6
8: 1,4
9: 1,5,6,7,8

$30.. GL
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-09-2009, 07:42 PM
Ronnie's Avatar
Ronnie Ronnie is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 438
Default

Nice play in the 8th, Steve. Good luck in the 9th at Hollywood.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-09-2009, 07:46 PM
3kings's Avatar
3kings 3kings is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,495
Default

<$75 P4 Play:

6: 10-11-12
7: 5-6
8: ALL
9: 6-8

3x2x6x2 = $72





Steve,
Great use of the all button, good luck in the nite cap.


edit........congrats Steve

Last edited by 3kings : 05-09-2009 at 08:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-09-2009, 08:14 PM
Rudeboyelvis Rudeboyelvis is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,440
Default

NICE!!! 811.00 great job Steve!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.