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06-06-2009, 07:01 PM
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This year's 3 year olds based in CA
Worst 3 year old California based horses ever? Only Pioneer of the Nile is somewhat decent.
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06-06-2009, 07:05 PM
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06-06-2009, 07:17 PM
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06-06-2009, 08:01 PM
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Papa Clem isn't bad.
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06-06-2009, 08:03 PM
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06-06-2009, 08:04 PM
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Where exactly are the best ones based?
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06-06-2009, 08:11 PM
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06-06-2009, 09:11 PM
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probably only the top turf horses will go to the BC along with the cal and woodbine horses and some of the turfers will run on the fake stuff.Havent rachels conections expressed a disfavor about running her in th BC because of the DIRTLESS nature of the track?
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06-06-2009, 10:47 PM
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06-07-2009, 08:25 AM
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The 3YOs based in Florida and New York were not so hot either.
Let's see Derby win & place horse:New Mexico & California Preakness win & place horse: Arkansas & New Mexico Belmont win & place horse: Arkansas & Florida This might just start a trend. I can see a fight for stalls in New Mexico and Arkansas next winter.
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06-07-2009, 08:32 AM
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This Triple Crown series said little about the quality of racing in NY or Fla except that it sucked beyond the best horse in each of those locations. NT
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06-07-2009, 12:12 PM
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These arguments get so old
Who won the Acorn yesterday, Belmonts top 3 year old filly race?
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06-07-2009, 12:16 PM
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And I think Colonel John won the Travers. Rags to Riches won the Belmont. I don't know that you should completely throw out the form of California horses.
This year, Papa Clem shipped out and ran second in the LA Derby and won the Arkansas Derby. I Want Revenge shipped out and won the Gotham and Wood.
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06-07-2009, 12:21 PM
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Isn't it more than reasonable to assume that there are some very talented horses in California who's abilities are being completely daunted by synthetic surfaces ( like I Want Revenge was )?
Why do people care where good horses are supposedly from ( Pioneer of the Nile is as much an East Coast horse as I Want Revenge was a West Coast horse )? This is a mythical, and non-existant, rivalry. A good horse is a good horse.....wherever it races.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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06-07-2009, 12:24 PM
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Just another example of how misguided the whole notion is.
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06-07-2009, 12:28 PM
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There also is a 10/1 horse population difference, its pretty hard to comparisons when its like two different divisions, kinda like big school and small school sports, you might get some nice kids from the small schools but the sheer numbers will also give the bigger schools the comparative advantage.
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