Sorry Darren

[Cannon Shell]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

First time Alabama football players ever "misused" textbooks let alone use them!

Honestly it seems kind of petty since the vast majority of these violations were for less than $100.

[ddthetide]

does it surprise you that the football violations happened under shula.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

does it surprise you that the football violations happened under shula.

Bama = Probation

The Alabama Crimson Probationists. Has a nice ring to it.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

First time Alabama football players ever "misused" textbooks let alone use them!

Honestly it seems kind of petty since the vast majority of these violations were for less than $100.

Because they let other kids buy books with scholarship money.....c'mon don't these guys have some real cheaters to catch here.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Because they let other kids buy books with scholarship money.....c'mon don't these guys have some real cheaters to catch here.

no, it's alabama and the ncaa's been after them for a LONG time. so any chance they get, they can hammer Bama as "repeat offenders".
the story didn't say that of the 16 programs, the football team had the fewest number (7) involved.

[ddthetide]

The NCAA findings state: "The committee cited major violations involving 16 sports in Alabama’s athletics program, including softball, baseball, women’s gymnastics, football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball, men’s golf, women’s golf, men’s swimming, women’s swimming, men’s tennis, women’s tennis, men’s track and field, women’s track and field, women’s soccer, and women’s volleyball.
The violations include a failure to monitor by the university and impermissible benefits obtained by 201 student-athletes through misuse of the university’s textbook distribution program.

the vast majority were unintentional, meaning these were the students that received "recommended" textbooks (an impermissible benefit) in addition to "required" textbooks (a permissible benefit). It is entirely conceivable that a student would not go back to the Supe Store shelves, identify the recommended books as such, and turn them back in. If the Supe Store gives them the book, a reasonable person would assume that the Supe Store was correct in loaning the book.
The NCAA also cites the University as identifying "22 intentional wrong-doers."
Taken together, I read that to mean 179 students got recommended textbooks, and 22 went out of their way to bilk the University for the benefit of friends.
This is the bit of poor wording that ticks me off: "The value of the impermissible benefits obtained by these intentional wrongdoers ranged from a low of $32.30 by a women’s track student-athlete to a high of $3,947.19 by a football student-athlete. The committee noted that the four highest amounts, ranging from $2,714.62 to $3,947.19, were obtained by football student-athletes."
Now if the value is the cost of buying and retaining textbooks, then this is deceptive, since all of the these textbooks were either returned to the Supe Store or paid for.

that passage is from Tide Fans. i also read that, 3 men involved in administration still have their jobs! worse yet these same 3 were involved in the trouble in 1995 and again in 2000. so they 've been shuffled around the athletic dept twice already!......... all i can do is shake my head.