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Old 07-20-2009, 08:51 AM
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Default Laughable Gazette 'editorial' decries Toga college day

It has to be a sad new low for editorial writing... The Schenectady Gazette Sunday was "shocked, shocked" and dismayed over NYRA presenting college day in September at the Spa. Going to make 'em all 'lifelong problem gamblers' don't ya know.

It's OK for the state to sanction and sell lottery tickets left and right to generations of the poverty-striken though... (And doesn't the state regulate the sale of cigarettes and alcohol too?) And the fact that there is widespread illegal football betting going on at EVERY college campus in America obviously eludes the erudite and forward-thinkers in the Electric City as well. I also understand there's also a little binge drinking problem at a lot of these higher learning establishments, but that's just a rumor.

Note the typo in the first graph. Hey, at least it gave them a chance to let you know they know what a bursar is...


Editorial: NYRA should leave college students alone
Sunday, July 19, 2009

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/200...9/719_printnt/

Teens go off to college to learn about all sorts of things — both in and out of the classroom. Gambling may be one of them, and probably one that parents and college officials wished they didn’t learn about. But thanks to twhe (sic) New York Racing Association, the odds of them doing so in the Capital Region are about to be greatly enhanced.

NYRA announced this week plans for its first-ever College Day promotion at Saratoga Race Course Sept. 4, shortly after the school year begins for a handful of area colleges. The promotion will feature raffles for prizes that include $1,000 in “tuition money” after every race. It’s a nice prize, but one we hope NYRA will award as a check made out directly to the school’s bursar, lest any of it get diverted to the $50 window on the way back to campus.


(Please go use the link for the rest of this important and remarkable piece of journalism.)
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:12 AM
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It has to be a sad new low for editorial writing... The Schenectady Gazette Sunday was "shocked, shocked" and dismayed over NYRA presenting college day in September at the Spa. Going to make 'em all 'lifelong problem gamblers' don't ya know.

It's OK for the state to sanction and sell lottery tickets left and right to generations of the poverty-striken though... (Amd doesn't the state regulate the sale of cigarettes and alcohol too?) And the fact that there is widespread illegal football betting going on at EVERY college campus in America obviously eludes the erudite and forward-thinkers in the Electric City as well. I also understand there's also a little binge drinking problem at a lot of these higher learning establishments, but that's just a rumor.

Note the typo in the first graph. Hey, at least it gave them a chance to let you know they know what a bursar is...


Editorial: NYRA should leave college students alone
Sunday, July 19, 2009

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/200...9/719_printnt/

Teens go off to college to learn about all sorts of things — both in and out of the classroom. Gambling may be one of them, and probably one that parents and college officials wished they didn’t learn about. But thanks to twhe (sic) New York Racing Association, the odds of them doing so in the Capital Region are about to be greatly enhanced.

NYRA announced this week plans for its first-ever College Day promotion at Saratoga Race Course Sept. 4, shortly after the school year begins for a handful of area colleges. The promotion will feature raffles for prizes that include $1,000 in “tuition money” after every race. It’s a nice prize, but one we hope NYRA will award as a check made out directly to the school’s bursar, lest any of it get diverted to the $50 window on the way back to campus.


(Please go use the link for the rest of this important and remarkable piece of journalism.)

steve - i don't know the paper well , being from down here , but in there sports section if the post any type of daily line for football , baseball , baketball , etc , etc a letter to the editor whould be called for to point out their hypocrisay
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:16 AM
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Clearly someone lacks an understanding of Addiction.

I love the reference to Art Schlichter in the comments section as if his childhood was a perfect example of child rearing.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:19 AM
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Its a smart marketing move from NYRA. Skidmore kids have lots of parental money to blow on the horses. Many of them already gamble and gamble big. I see them year round at the simulcast. A lot are probably sick of blowing their allowances on coke & booze. Why not target a ripe demographic that unlike most adults living here, actually have money to burn. These kids dont play by the same rules we did when we went to college. They dont live in dorms anymore...they own 600K condos and forget them ever picking up a vacuum cleaner, they all hire maids. Weekend ski trips, spring breaks in Maui, 60K cars...the rules have changed fellas.

I think its great to bring new blood into a sport like horse racing.

Maybe Saratoga will even hire younger bartenders this year.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:21 AM
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I will make sure to let my kid know of the date. he was planning on going to Toga with a few of his friends anyway...But now with the incentives, i am sure he will be able to get a few more guys or girls.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:31 AM
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I would hate to hear what the Gazette thinks of the Race Track Industry Program..
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Don't they have one of the guys from Capital OTB write articles and post daily selections during Saratoga?
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:53 AM
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I would hate to hear what the Gazette thinks of the Race Track Industry Program..
Mark Cusano and Bill Heller do nice jobs covering racing for the Gazette who market the paper non-stop during the meet giving away copies daily outside the track. .

This piece is an utter joke. They didn't bother to check with NYRA about the distribution of the tuition prizes, which of course are going directly to the colleges of the winner's. And newspapers remain mystified why circulation and advertising continues to dwindle.
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Of all the things to editorialize, this would be 1,567th on the list.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:08 AM
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Mark Cusano and Bill Heller do nice jobs covering racing for the Gazette who market the paper non-stop during the meet giving away copies daily outside the track. .

This piece is an utter joke. They didn't bother to check with NYRA about the distribution of the tuition prizes, which of course are going directly to the colleges of the winner's. And newspapers remain mystified why circulation and advertising continues to dwindle.
If consistent, the Gazette will neither market Cusano and Heller selections to "fatten its bottom line" nor accept advertising from gambling-related interests; it will stop posting odds-lines for football and other sports in its sports sections, and it will no longer list winning lottery numbers.

Oh, and let's not forget the annual article about how racing is a "dying" sport and how NYRA needs to market it to a younger dempographic. Of course, now that NYRA implements what has been a wildly successful program at Keeneland, the Gazette criticizes the move. Priceless.
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If consistent, the Gazette will neither market Cusano and Heller selections to "fatten its bottom line" nor accept advertising from gambling-related interests; it will stop posting odds-lines for football and other sports in its sports sections, and it will no longer list winning lottery numbers.

Oh, and let's not forget the annual article about how racing is a "dying" sport and how NYRA needs to market it to a younger dempographic. Of course, now that NYRA implements what has been a wildly successful program at Keeneland, the Gazette criticizes the move. Priceless.
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I would hate to hear what the Gazette thinks of the Race Track Industry Program..
This is basically never an issue in Tucson since hardly anyone here and at the Daily Star knows of the Program. And usually when we do get mentioned we at least we have Todd as our poster child with the Daily Star, so most of the coverage is positive.

Now, if Rillito were to do this things might be different. Might have to try that in the Spring.
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If any as ever been to Kee they know these college kids aren't at the $50 window.

I cant decide if this the funniest or the sadest thing I have ever read.
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The tail that comes out for College Day at Keeneland makes it worth it alone
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racing should be giving free vouchers to college students who sign up for their ADW
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The tail that comes out for College Day at Keeneland makes it worth it alone
I only look at the horses while at the track.
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:44 PM
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More people have now read this thread than have read the Gazette in the past year.
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Mark Cusano and Bill Heller do nice jobs covering racing for the Gazette who market the paper non-stop during the meet giving away copies daily outside the track. .

This piece is an utter joke. They didn't bother to check with NYRA about the distribution of the tuition prizes, which of course are going directly to the colleges of the winner's. And newspapers remain mystified why circulation and advertising continues to dwindle.

The only time I was at Keeneland it was college day (though everyday there is college day so I hear ) and they were doing the 1000 tuition prize after each race. I thought it was a great idea.

That Gazette piece was moronic.. I'd be embarrassed if I was the editor..
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This is basically never an issue in Tucson since hardly anyone here and at the Daily Star knows of the Program. And usually when we do get mentioned we at least we have Todd as our poster child with the Daily Star, so most of the coverage is positive.

Now, if Rillito were to do this things might be different. Might have to try that in the Spring.

I thought Rillito was being bulldozed??
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I guess the question is what took NYRA so long to go after new (young) blood? Skidmore has been around forever and its the perfect college for kids to gamble. These kids have all the money. Their parents are loaded and they drive 60K cars and live in 600K condos. The rules have changed.
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