Arlington Million/The race

GPK · #1 08-11-2006, 10:06 AM

be interesting to see how the ongoing battle between Cacique and EC continues to play out, especially with both of them carrying the same weight.
I realize there are tons of other great horses in this race, but this is turning out to be a great rivalry.

When carrying the same weight, EC is 2-0 vs. Cacique
the one time EC lost to Cacique by a 1/2 length, he was carry 2 more pounds.

Every little bit helps in these routes.

Scav · #2 08-11-2006, 10:08 AM

This is the most wide open Million I have ever seen.....I am hopefully going to using like 5 horses, it is ridiculous how wideopen this race is....10 horse blanket finish, MAJOR RHYTHM WINS(Arlington would burn down, for the 2nd time, if this happens)

My race by race analysis will be up later tonight for all to enjoy...BOOOM BABY, it is PRE MILLION DAY

Pointg5 · #3 08-11-2006, 10:11 AM

Don't like the Euro's, I think EC wins this one. I'll be cheering for him to win, if not him Cacique or Better Talk Now, but I would prefer EC to win...

GPK · #4 08-11-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

This is the most wide open Million I have ever seen.....I am hopefully going to using like 5 horses, it is ridiculous how wideopen this race is....10 horse blanket finish, MAJOR RHYTHM WINS(Arlington would burn down, for the 2nd time, if this happens)

My race by race analysis will be up later tonight for all to enjoy...BOOOM BABY, it is PRE MILLION DAY

all I can do is shake my head...

Gander · #5 08-11-2006, 10:13 AM

I'm starting to like Better Talk Now's chances and willing to throw out his unusually bad United Nations. I think the pace will be a lot faster than people think. EC and Cacique are both going to go from the far outside. Theres no way either one of them will just simply drop back and try to close in here. The Tin Man is fast and so is Ace.

I think this race is won by a closer in the final strides. Going to be a dandy.

GPK · #6 08-11-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I'm starting to like Better Talk Now's chances and willing to throw out his unusually bad United Nations. I think the pace will be a lot faster than people think. EC and Cacique are both going to go from the far outside. Theres no way either one of them will just simply drop back and try to close in here. The Tin Man is fast and so is Ace.

I think this race is won by a closer in the final strides. Going to be a dandy.

Double or nothing in this race instead Tim? EC vs. BTN

Scav · #7 08-11-2006, 10:20 AM

BTN = Toss for me

I am heading towards the euro loving with a little channel..Probably just play exacta and pick three in this race and possible win money on Touch of Land...

i will say this though, English Channel has no excuse in this race, he will get an unbelievable trip unless he breaks bad and should get first run on everyone.

With their being no rail, look for horses to just come flying late, Rock of Gibratler(?) style (MAN, that was awesome)

Gander · #8 08-11-2006, 10:23 AM

Why not Kev. Why not.

I am a really sporting guy giving you a horse that will be 3 times shorter the price but thats the kind of guy I am

GPK · #9 08-11-2006, 10:26 AM

if I think any Euro in this race has a chance, its Soldier Hollow.

GPK · #10 08-11-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Why not Kev. Why not.

I am a really sporting guy giving you a horse that will be 3 times shorter the price but thats the kind of guy I am

You'd gamble $20 on 2 ants crossing the street...

Gander · #11 08-11-2006, 10:29 AM

With the Euros, how do you know? I mean its a total guess how they'll run.
Ace has US form, but going winless the last 2 years and the fact that he'll be 5/1 doesnt exactly make you want to run to the ATM. I think he'll run very well, but I have to be a little Pro american in here.

GPK · #12 08-11-2006, 10:33 AM

Soldier Hollow is 12 6-4-0 at this distance, he had a nice little 1 mile tightner in his last vs. less....Looks like he is sitting on a big one and they were pointing him to this reace. He would be no surprise at all IMO.

Rene on the grass don't hurt either...allways been a fan of his riding on turf.

Habersham000 · #13 08-11-2006, 10:35 AM

If English Channel goes to the front or is anywhere near the front there is no way he wins....I agree with Gander I kinda like Better Talk Know, there should be enough pace, with a firm turf and a course that favors closers he has a great shot.

GPK · #14 08-11-2006, 10:38 AM

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If English Channel goes to the front or is anywhere near the front there is no way he wins....I agree with Gander I kinda like Better Talk Know, there should be enough pace, with a firm turf and a course that favors closers he has a great shot.

JV learned the lesson last year with EC. He knows that he needs to be 3-4 lengths off the leader to give it his run. EC has to have a target to run at, plain and simple.

dr. fager · #15 08-11-2006, 10:41 AM

I thought the same thing in the United Nations....but he rated....didn't like it one bit...but did it anyway....

Cajungator26 · #16 08-11-2006, 10:41 AM

With me as his jockey, Phoenix Reach will be blowing by English Channel, Cacique and Better Talk Now.

zippyneedsawin · #17 08-11-2006, 10:48 AM

I'll be using EC, Cacique, and the Euros in the Pick-4.. I'm tossing BTN and Tin Man.

#18 08-11-2006, 10:55 AM

This race is perfect for the Europeans coming over. Really not much pace with the exception of The Tin Man. Europeans love looping along with a pack of horses and then sprinting to the finish line. The Tin Man might get some pressure from Cosmonaut but I really doubt it. Now with so many mid pack runners, traffic is going to be a huge issue. The key to this race (and most races) is going to be the trip the horses get. Therefore this becomes a jockeys race. I think the European horses have an advantage in this type of race. The two Europeans that I love in this race are Ace and even thought Rene is riding, I love Soldier Hollow. I like Cacique, but I am not going to get much value on him and I have him having an equal chance of winning with Ace and Soldier Hollow. So I will take the the two value plays.

NOTE: Dont be surpised to see The Tin Man go wire to wire.

Scav · #19 08-11-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

JV learned the lesson last year with EC. He knows that he needs to be 3-4 lengths off the leader to give it his run. EC has to have a target to run at, plain and simple.

Last year was not JV's fault, horse broke like **** and needed to be rushed up, I KNOW THE race all too well because I needed it for a $200 pick three ticket that I had 10 times. FRIGGIN RAT, he better redeem himself this year, or he will start getting SHANE LAVIOLLETE TYPE PAIN

GPK · #20 08-11-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Last year was not JV's fault, horse broke like **** and needed to be rushed up, I KNOW THE race all too well because I needed it for a $200 pick three ticket that I had 10 times. FRIGGIN RAT, he better redeem himself this year, or he will start getting SHANE LAVIOLLETE TYPE PAIN

maybe he needed to be rushed up some, but NOT ON THE LEAD. Needs to be a touch further back.