Cool Coal Man

[Gander]

Wow, that was awesome. Nick should have run him in the Whitney. Would have been easy money.

[philcski]

Commentator?

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by Gander

Wow, that was awesome. Nick should have run him in the Whitney. Would have been easy money.

Visually sure, but who the heck did he beat?

[Gander]

Originally Posted by philcski

Commentator?

Arent they owned by different people?
If you owned Cool Coal Man, why wouldnt you want a shot at the big bucks? Its not like Commentator benefits the owner of Cool Coal Man in any way.

Didnt beat anybody? Who the heck did Bullsbay beat in the Whitney?

[parsixfarms]

Commentator and Cool Coal Man have different owners, but similar running styles.

The Whitney was Commentator's stated goal. Rebounding from a poor effort in the Suburban, Cool Coal Man is now likely to get his Grade I shot in the Woodward.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Commentator and Cool Coal Man have different owners, but similar running styles.

The Whitney was Commentator's stated goal. Rebounding from a poor effort in the Suburban, Cool Coal Man is now likely to get his Grade I shot in the Woodward.

He'll probably goes as favored in the Woodward, if a certain filly doesnt show up. I thought today's race was magnificient. Had he run in the Whitney, he may have sat the kind of trip which would have given him first run on Commentator. I think he would have been very tough.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by Gander

Arent they owned by different people?
If you owned Cool Coal Man, why wouldnt you want a shot at the big bucks? Its not like Commentator benefits the owner of Cool Coal Man in any way.

Didnt beat anybody? Who the heck did Bullsbay beat in the Whitney?

I understand the handicap division is terrible this year, but you don't think that Macho Again and Commentator are much better than More Than a Reason and Dr. D.F.C.? These horses haven't been able to win starter handicaps and state bred races for christ sake. Now I'm not saying Cool Coal Man wouldn't have been right there in the Whitney, but he beat a field that was simply awful today once Barrier Reef flopped.

[NTamm1215]

Doesn't Cool Coal Man do this every once in a while?

I'll believe him as a graded stakes horse when he runs well in a graded stakes race. I'd also like to see him put two good races together.

At least he ran that well considering whatever it was that happened with the atrocity known as Da' Tara.

NT

[Gander]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Doesn't Cool Coal Man do this every once in a while?

I'll believe him as a graded stakes horse when he runs well in a graded stakes race. I'd also like to see him put two good races together.

At least he ran that well considering whatever it was that happened with the atrocity known as Da' Tara.

NT

He does freak out every now and then, thats for sure. Kind of like his kid brother Coal Play. The handicap division is so bad this year, Cool Coal Man will probably be the favorite in the Woodward.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522

I understand the handicap division is terrible this year, but you don't think that Macho Again and Commentator are much better than More Than a Reason and Dr. D.F.C.? These horses haven't been able to win starter handicaps and state bred races for christ sake. Now I'm not saying Cool Coal Man wouldn't have been right there in the Whitney, but he beat a field that was simply awful today once Barrier Reef flopped.

Yes, the 2 you mentioned are much better horses but I would give Cool Coal Man more than a hot against Macho Again and Dry Martini any day of the week. Neither horses should scare away anybody.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Gander

He does freak out every now and then, thats for sure. Kind of like his kid brother Coal Play. The handicap division is so bad this year, Cool Coal Man will probably be the favorite in the Woodward.

Not if Asiatic Boy or Macho Again are in there.

When Barrier Reef flopped, today's race effectively became little more than a glorified NW2X allowance.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Not if Asiatic Boy or Macho Again are in there.

When Barrier Reef flopped, today's race effectively became little more than a glorified NW2X allowance.

Assuming Rachel isn't there I would think Bullsbay or Cool Coal Man would be more likely to be bet to favoritism than either of those two. Either way it should be a pretty wide open board.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522

Visually sure, but who the heck did he beat?

True..Barrier Reef looked like he was going great around the far turn then spit the bit in the lane. However, with how CCM rated today and finished down the lane he wouldve been really tough in the Whitney this past Sat.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Assuming Rachel isn't there I would think Bullsbay or Cool Coal Man would be more likely to be bet to favoritism than either of those two. Either way it should be a pretty wide open board.

Highly touted coming from Dubai for McLaughlin, Asiatic Boy finished ahead of Bullsbay (Foster) and Cool Coal Man (Suburban) in each of his two most recent races. I'd expect him to be a shorter price than either of those two in what would be his third race in North America. Wasn't he the favorite in the Suburban, even though McLaughlin was concerned about (for these days) the quick turnarond?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Doesn't Cool Coal Man do this every once in a while?

I'll believe him as a graded stakes horse when he runs well in a graded stakes race. I'd also like to see him put two good races together.

At least he ran that well considering whatever it was that happened with the atrocity known as Da' Tara.

NT

Agree, he freaks... Then when the competition gets better he is nothing.

The pedigree suggests he could improve with time, maybe thats whats happening, but I doubt it.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Not if Asiatic Boy or Macho Again are in there.

When Barrier Reef flopped, today's race effectively became little more than a glorified NW2X allowance.

The Whitney wasnt a whole lot better!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Highly touted coming from Dubai for McLaughlin, Asiatic Boy finished ahead of Bullsbay (Foster) and Cool Coal Man (Suburban) in each of his two most recent races. I'd expect him to be a shorter price than either of those two in what would be his third race in North America. Wasn't he the favorite in the Suburban, even though McLaughlin was concerned about (for these days) the quick turnarond?

I think Asiatic Boy would have won the Whitney had he not spiked a fever but that doesn't take away from his highest Beyer being a 98 while Bullsbay will have a 107 coming in and Cool Coal Man a 100-105 with both of their recent races being at Saratoga. I think both will take more money than Asiatic Boy.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Gander

Wow, that was awesome. Nick should have run him in the Whitney. Would have been easy money.

I've always loved this horse, but to be honest, I think Nick should keep him in sprints. He's a very nice horse, but he can't beat good ones going long. In his season's debut, he won a good spring with a 106 Beyer........what's the point in beating up on non-entities in races like this?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I think Asiatic Boy would have won the Whitney had he not spiked a fever but that doesn't take away from his highest Beyer being a 98 while Bullsbay will have a 107 coming in and Cool Coal Man a 100-105 with both of their recent races being at Saratoga. I think both will take more money than Asiatic Boy.

107 also.

If Asiatic Boy was ever a good horse it was probably a few years ago.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

107 also.

If Asiatic Boy was ever a good horse it was probably a few years ago.

That makes two made up single variant 107s this week that I disagree with.