9/5 (AP): Arl-Wash Futurity & Lassie; Wash. Park. H. (G3's)

[Kasept]

6th (3:28) Arlington-Washington Futurity (G3)

1 Mile (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Beware the Tiger Campbell J M 117 L
2 U Appeal to Me Graham J 117 L
3 Oak Motte Razo E Jr 117 L
4 Herecomesbert Sterling L J Jr 117 L
5 Piscitelli Alvarado J 117 L
6 Kratisto Rosendo I J 117 L
7 Dixie Band Flores D R 119 L



8th (4:28) Washington Park H. (G3)

1 3/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Palladio Dos Ramos R A 120 L
2 Eldaafer Potts C L 118 L
3 Let It Rock Razo E Jr 114 L
4 Unusual Suspect Alvarado J 118 L
5 Wicked Style Castanon J L 116 L
6 Dubious Miss Emigh C A 116 L
7 Church Service Graham J 118 L
8 Gran Estreno (ARG) Baird E T 115 L



9th (4:58) Arlington-Washington Lassie S. (G3)

1 Mile (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Gabba Girl Emigh C A 116 L
2 Attempt to Name Karlsson I 116 L
3 Highest Power Martin E M Jr 116 L
4 Deceptive Glory Campbell J M 116 L
5 Suzanne Flores D R 116 L
6 She Be Wild Alvarado J 118 L
7 Tiz Miz Sue Graham J 116 L
8 Screen Legend Castanon J L 116 L
9 Thats Whatshesaid Sanchez D 116 L

[Sightseek]

She Be Wild

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

She Be Wild

Should run third behind Deceptive Glory and Tiz Miz Sue

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Should run third behind Deceptive Glory and Tiz Miz Sue

Stop it with Deceptive Glory...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

Stop it with Deceptive Glory...

Why? She was awesome in her debut and never looked comfortable in the Top Flight when it was 95 degrees out. You're living proof that not everyone handles the heat, right?

She'll win, and she'll pay twice what she would have last time around.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Why? She was awesome in her debut and never looked comfortable in the Top Flight when it was 95 degrees out. You're living proof that not everyone handles the heat, right?

She'll win, and she'll pay twice what she would have last time around.

She has zero chance of beating Tiz Miz Sue

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Scav

She has zero chance of beating She Be Wild

FTFY

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

FTFY

Stop it

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Scav

Stop it

Consider it a single on your Pick 4 tickets.

You can thank me later.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

She has zero chance of beating Tiz Miz Sue

And Romocaca had zero chance to win on Million Day and was a mortal play against.

Kind of like she had zero chance the time before that too....it's only five in a row now.

Sue is good and I figure she runs 1st or 2nd, but only a fool would take Glory's last run at face value.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And Romocaca had zero chance to win on Million Day and was a mortal play against.

Kind of like she had zero chance the time before that too....it's only five in a row now.

Sue is good and I figure she runs 1st or 2nd, but only a fool would take Glory's last run at face value.

First off, Romocaca was COMPLETLY aided by the BS 'inner' turf course that is created on Million Day only. If they run that race on the real part of the course, she doesn't win.

Love how you didn't note the ones that I said had no chance, and didn't run a lick.....

I try to beat favorites, especially ones from that stable, because when you do, you get f'n paid handsomely

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

First off, Romocaca was COMPLETLY aided by the BS 'inner' turf course that is created on Million Day only. If they run that race on the real part of the course, she doesn't win.

Love how you didn't note the ones that I said had no chance, and didn't run a lick.....

I try to beat favorites, especially ones from that stable, because when you do, you get f'n paid handsomely

Not to take too big a swipe....but that "BS 'inner' turf course" didn't seem to bother Rojo Sol too much, did it?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Not to take too big a swipe....but that "BS 'inner' turf course" didn't seem to bother Rojo Sol too much, did it?

Come on man, if you don't think that inner crap aids speed horses, you've lost it.

Richwood Silver was nw3 against a horse that has one like 5 races or something.....

Wasn't Rojo Sol sitting like 3rd too?? She was no farther then four lengths off

Poor example

[Scav]

Jesus Christ

I just looked up the chart.

Calabreses' super horse went 25/50'4/115'3)

She would have won by a head if I was riding her

And Richwood went

24/48'4/114'1

If RS is allowed to go that other horses pace, she also wins by 5

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

Come on man, if you don't think that inner crap aids speed horses, you've lost it.

Richwood Silver was nw3 against a horse that has one like 5 races or something.....

Wasn't Rojo Sol sitting like 3rd too?? She was no farther then four lengths off

Poor example

It's not that I don't think it's a speed-favoring course, it's just that I haven't lost all my marbles when they split the turf course. Every time they do it, you blindly play against horses for bad reasons (ie, playing against a Calabrese on principal over a course that favors her style on a lawn she obviously loves on a day with big pools, just to play against them as the favorite), lose, then you either pretend they didn't announce it (and that's totally true, since you did it last year, and again when I ran into you on Million Day this year) or you blame the course entirely -- when Romocaca fit the bill for that race perfectly, inner turf course or no, it's not like outside Keertana, the Midwest sophomore turf fillies are really lighting things up.

Point being, bringing it back to the Lassie, that sure Tiz Miz Sue could win and looks like one of the more likely ones, but when you say things like "stop it with Deceptive Glory/She Be Wild/Still undefeated at the meet Peyote Patty," like they're irrational things to think, it's all just pure nonsense and often enough the horses go out and pull a stunt like Romocaca did, and then you're stuck backpedaling for excuses (see first paragraph).

That's all.

PS, advance warning, you may want to pay attention to which races are run where on Monday. Ahead of time, I mean, instead of after the fact.

[Scav]

They use that course twice an f'n year and never announce it, it was my fault for not paying attention, I agree, if I would have known, like I said that day, I would have sent it in on her because of that very fact.

Why can't they put the words "Inner Course" like they do in NY? I would think being on the inner is a 'condition'

I don't sit and yap about excuses, I talk about what could have been if the proper information, important information is readily available for people to make educated decisions. I take my lumps with the best of them but stupid things like not reporting a BIG thing like that burns my ass because it is unfair to the betting public.

I readily and always admit I am wrong when I get beat, which like anyone, is alot on this game. Just beat me fair and square

I can't wait until she runs in the Pucker Up, she hasn't run an honest race yet and I will be betting accordingly. Just like Deceptive Glory, who is deceptively slow and is going to get smoked.....

Hopefully they don't run that damn race on the inner so you can see what happens to a horse that doesn't get an easy cantering lead

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

They use that course twice an f'n year and never announce it, it was my fault for not paying attention, I agree, if I would have known, like I said that day, I would have sent it in on her because of that very fact.

Why can't they put the words "Inner Course" like they do in NY? I would think being on the inner is a 'condition'

I don't sit and yap about excuses, I talk about what could have been if the proper information, important information is readily available for people to make educated decisions. I take my lumps with the best of them but stupid things like not reporting a BIG thing like that burns my ass because it is unfair to the betting public.

I readily and always admit I am wrong when I get beat, which like anyone, is alot on this game. Just beat me fair and square

I can't wait until she runs in the Pucker Up, she hasn't run an honest race yet and I will be betting accordingly. Just like Deceptive Glory, who is deceptively slow and is going to get smoked.....

Hopefully they don't run that damn race on the inner so you can see what happens to a horse that doesn't get an easy cantering lead

Well, when they draw the Pucker Up, then I'll assess whether or not she is a good play at that time -- you know, taking into account who else is in the race, pace dynamics, which course it's run over, etc -- I'll see how the race shapes up instead of indiscriminately drawing an X through her because of her owner and because she's the favorite. That's how I do my handicapping, you can do yours however you'd like, obviously.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well, when they draw the Pucker Up, then I'll assess whether or not she is a good play at that time -- you know, taking into account who else is in the race, which course it's run over, etc -- I'll see how the race shapes up instead of drawing an X through her because of her owner and because she's the favorite. That's how I do my handicapping, you can do yours however you'd like, obviously.

I didn't say that guy, I stay objective but I do try and beat him if I can, and I can care less who is in that race specifically to this horse. With it being a graded race, horses will and do show up for that race (especially recently) That is all I need to know, and the bozo's on top of the horses aren't going to let her go again, one of them will find the smart button for the day and go with her.

[brianwspencer]

You'll get your wish. The Pucker Up will be run in lane 5.

Rumor Has It, however, got the best break of his life with the inner turf course -- but it's in Lane 1, not 10 feet inside lane 1 like some other days....so perhaps not as big an advantage as some other days. May not be a complete speed-fest.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

She Be Wild

Good girl!!!

You have your BC Juvie Fillies winner right here folks.