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Old 10-23-2009, 11:25 AM
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Default Hall of Fame? Yes or No

Assuming they finish as expected.

Ichiro

Vlad Guerrero

Jim Thome

John Smoltz

Johnny Damon

Trevor Hoffman

Todd Helton

Chipper Jones

Bobby Abreu

Gary Sheffield

Miguel Tejada

Andy Pettite
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:34 AM
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Assuming they finish as expected.

Ichiro YES

Vlad Guerrero NO

Jim Thome NO

John Smoltz NO

Johnny Damon NO

Trevor Hoffman YES

Todd Helton YES

Chipper Jones YES

Bobby Abreu NO

Gary Sheffield NO

Miguel Tejada LOL NO NO NO

Andy Pettite NO
my take above...
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:46 AM
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my take above...
Helton yes but Vlad no?
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:48 AM
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Assuming they finish as expected.

Ichiro - Yes

Vlad Guerrero - Yes

Jim Thome - Yes

John Smoltz - Yes

Johnny Damon - No

Trevor Hoffman - Should be (15 yr process?)

Todd Helton - Yes

Chipper Jones - Yes

Bobby Abreu - No - Andre Dawson factor

Gary Sheffield - No

Miguel Tejada - No

Andy Pettite - NO
Smoltz would have to be a definite.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:55 AM
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Smoltz would have to be a definite.
I'm in the yes camp for Smoltz too.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:42 PM
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I'm in the yes camp for Smoltz too.
What about the rest?
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:08 PM
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Assuming they finish as expected.

Ichiro Yes

Vlad Guerrero No

Jim Thome Yes

John Smoltz Yes

Johnny Damon No

Trevor Hoffman Yes

Todd Helton No

Chipper Jones Yes

Bobby Abreu No

Gary Sheffield Yes

Miguel Tejada No

Andy Pettite No
I think 500 Hr's gets you in.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:29 PM
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I think 500 Hr's gets you in.
So you take nothing else into consideration?
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:30 PM
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How many of these guys did roids?

Quite a few. Helton was on the 2003 list.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:35 PM
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So you take nothing else into consideration?
No, but I really don't think of a guy like Gary Sheffield as a Hall of Famer, but I think that's the number that will eventually get him in.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:38 PM
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Assuming they finish as expected.

Ichiro- NO-ENOUGH WITH THE FKN PUNCHIN' JUDY TYPES

Vlad Guerrero-NO

Jim Thome-NO

John Smoltz-YES

Johnny Damon-NO

Trevor Hoffman-YES

Todd Helton-D.Q.-Took enhancement

Chipper Jones-YES

Bobby Abreu-NO

Gary Sheffield-D.Q.-Took enhancement

Miguel Tejada-D.Q.-Took enhancement

Andy Pettite-D.Q.-Took enhancement
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:43 PM
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I don't watch any baseball hardly ever - but wasn't Guerrero like a freak in Montreal?
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:49 PM
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I don't watch any baseball hardly ever - but wasn't Guerrero like a freak in Montreal?
Injuries ruined his chances. He didn't hit much at all in the 2005 post. So, fk him. No real effort to get a ring, either. Too ugly for photos, too. No plate discipline (which would easily of gotten one of his teams a ring.)
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:56 PM
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Injuries ruined his chances. He didn't hit much at all in the 2005 post. So, fk him. No real effort to get a ring, either. Too ugly for photos, too. No plate discipline (which would easily of gotten one of his teams a ring.)
He still has time. Cant blame me for hoping. Stranger things have happened.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:56 PM
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Jones ever been caught enhancing?
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:59 PM
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Ichiro the only one on there I would vote for.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:59 PM
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Ichiro Yes

Vlad Guerrero Yes

Jim Thome Yes

John Smoltz No

Johnny Damon No

Trevor Hoffman Yes

Todd Helton No (I think he SHOULD get in)

Chipper Jones Yes

Bobby Abreu No

Gary Sheffield Yes (eventually)

Miguel Tejada No

Andy Pettite No
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:00 PM
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Thome should and will make it. A shame he had no ring, but with those numbers, longevity, no 'roids and his great character..he'll be there
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:01 PM
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Ichiro the only one on there I would vote for.
How can you not vote for Chipper Jones, besides the fact you love the Mets (and so does Chipper)?

Him along with Ichiro are locks to me. First ballots.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:02 PM
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Jones ever been caught enhancing?
I dont think so, just excessive chewing tobacco use which is almost as common as steroids but not quite.
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