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Old 10-29-2009, 09:50 PM
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Horse Trainer Barred for Drug Violation
By JOE DRAPE
Published: October 29, 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/sp...orse.html?_r=1

The New York Racing Association will announce Friday that the trainer Jeff Mullins will be barred from its racetracks for six months for giving one of his horses an unknown substance in the Aqueduct monitoring barn in April and repeatedly lying about it. The association has also made it clear that, in contrast to past practices among trainers, Mullins cannot transfer his horses to an employee, relative or business associate to get around the suspension in order to run in New York.

The punishment will extend only so far, however. Mullins, one of the most successful trainers in the country — and one of the most notorious for his many medication violations — is free to run in any other racing jurisdiction during the ban. That includes Santa Anita in California, where he intends to run a horse next week at the Breeders’ Cup, one of racing’s richest events.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:52 PM
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Horse Trainer Barred for Drug Violation
By JOE DRAPE
Published: October 29, 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/sp...orse.html?_r=1

The New York Racing Association will announce Friday that the trainer Jeff Mullins will be barred from its racetracks for six months for giving one of his horses an unknown substance in the Aqueduct monitoring barn in April and repeatedly lying about it. The association has also made it clear that, in contrast to past practices among trainers, Mullins cannot transfer his horses to an employee, relative or business associate to get around the suspension in order to run in New York.

The punishment will extend only so far, however. Mullins, one of the most successful trainers in the country — and one of the most notorious for his many medication violations — is free to run in any other racing jurisdiction during the ban. That includes Santa Anita in California, where he intends to run a horse next week at the Breeders’ Cup, one of racing’s richest events.
why no reciprocity in this case?
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:56 PM
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thats a nothing punishment, the guy hardly ever ships to NY
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:57 PM
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thats a nothing punishment, the guy hardly ever ships to NY

What abourt I want revenge? Oh he has done enough
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:00 PM
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What abourt I want revenge? Oh he has done enough
thats like it that I can remember, I knew I could count on you to bring up the one horse who did ship, nice work.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:02 PM
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thats like it that I can remember, I knew I could count on you to bring up the one horse who did ship, nice work.

Imagine he is going to have to out juice Cannon Ball at Philly Park this winter...Good luck to him
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:45 PM
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Three questions
1. Why does the headline read "drug violation" when there was in fact no drug?
2. Why did it take this long to adjudicate the case considering there was no court and Mullins apparently had no legal defense?
3. Why didn't they suspend him for a much longer period of time or even indefinitely since there was no state commissions involved and he clearly had intent to break the rules?
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:49 PM
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Three questions
1. Why does the headline read "drug violation" when there was in fact no drug?
2. Why did it take this long to adjudicate the case considering there was no court and Mullins apparently had no legal defense?
3. Why didn't they suspend him for a much longer period of time or even indefinitely since there was no state commissions involved and he clearly had intent to break the rules?

mullins doesnt run in NY he cant it isnt the wild wild west region, so who cares it isnt like its Contessa or Jacobsen with a million starters the guy knows his crap doesnt fly in Ny so who really cares
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One other thing, if Mullins sends a horse to NY during this time frame and the owner puts him under the care of someone Mullins has never done business with doesnt that effectively circumvent the rule?
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mullins doesnt run in NY he cant it isnt the wild wild west region, so who cares it isnt like its Contessa or Jacobsen with a million starters the guy knows his crap doesnt fly in Ny so who really cares
please translate
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:52 PM
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why no reciprocity in this case?
It is just a track ruling, not a state ruling
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:52 PM
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the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:53 PM
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the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..
Delaware Park? What about Penn Nat? I'm sure Mullins can get a few to run 55 BSF's.
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the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..
yea, the guy aint baffert, he rarely ships to NY.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:55 PM
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Delaware Park? What about Penn Nat?

This guy is an earner never mind cheater... Pa. is tough on heroin
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:04 PM
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One other thing, if Mullins sends a horse to NY during this time frame and the owner puts him under the care of someone Mullins has never done business with doesnt that effectively circumvent the rule?
Of course not, why would horse racing ever want to hand down sanctions with teeth.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:15 PM
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the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..
I understand that he doesnt run there which is why once again horse racing officials draw us negative attention without really accomplishing much. I really think NYRA dropped the ball here simply by banning a guy for 6 months when he has no intention of running there anyway, though there may be some legalities that we dont know about. If mullins happens on a good three year old he can march right back into the detention barn and run in the Belmont. I'm sure with the state watching over their back NYRA triple checked to make sure they were ok in doing this. But in the grand scheme, was this a positive as presented?
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:23 PM
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I understand that he doesnt run there which is why once again horse racing officials draw us negative attention without really accomplishing much. I really think NYRA dropped the ball here simply by banning a guy for 6 months when he has no intention of running there anyway, though there may be some legalities that we dont know about. If mullins happens on a good three year old he can march right back into the detention barn and run in the Belmont. I'm sure with the state watching over their back NYRA triple checked to make sure they were ok in doing this. But in the grand scheme, was this a positive as presented?
Of course it isn't a positive. Any person with knowledge of the sport knows the ruling is a joke with basically no penalty at all.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:24 PM
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Sounds like NYRA had a weak case and they throw this out there like they are the tough guys of racing.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:38 PM
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It is just a track ruling, not a state ruling
ok, thanks.

one of these days i'll put up the pics of the horses from the visit. appreciate your time by the way.
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