1/21: Aqueduct, Gulfstream (P4's)

[Kasept]

Even with the 'free square' effort of Rereadthefootnotes in Wednesday Big A feature, the double carryover sequence proved as treacherous as anticipated. Five tickets got a healthy $67,132 for negotiating the sextet, which was as tough as it was thanks to 4 third or fourth choice winners ranging in price from $10.40 (La Vida Vino) to $18.60 (Laylaben). It's almost a good thing that this sequence was hit, because the Thursday card at Aqueduct is an absolute eye-crosser. Hope you did OK Wednesday... The NY and So. FL Pick 4's are featured below.


AQUEDUCT


POST-SCRATCHES


6th: NYB-ALW/N1X, 3yo, 1m-70y (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Very good group of 3yo Empire-breds with real potential as serious horses..

Most Likely: #4 Shrimp Dancer 8-5 2nd
Best Value: #7 Raynick's Jet 7-2 3rd
Next Best: #3 Thousand Excuses 3-1 5th
Super Add: #6 New York Red 15-1 7th


7th: CLM/B, 4+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1a Frame of Reference 5-2 7th
Best Value: #5 Coach Butts 20-1 4th
Next Best: #6 Dakota Dunes 7-2 6th
Super Add: #11 Pewter 9-2 5th


8th: NYB-ALW/N1X, 4+, 8.5f (DD)

Most Likely: #8 Mighty Morris 2-1 WON
Best Value: #1 (POE) Goodbyeandgoodluck 9-2 7th
Next Best: #4 Whirlwind Poppy 4-1 9th


9th: MDN CLM, 4+, 1m-70y (Super)

Don't fear 5-2 second choice (#7 Really Somebody) at all, but there's so little speed involved here that you are compelled to include. For a bottom level MDN event, a very competitive race..

Most Likely: #9 St. Augustine 2-1 3rd
Best Value: #2 Bindle Stick 10-1 WON
Next Best: #7 Really Somebody 5-2 9th
Super Add: #1 Malibu Gardens 20-1 5th


<$75 P4 Play:

6: 4-7
7: 1-5-6
8: 1-4-8
9: 1-2-7-9

2x3x3x4 = $72



GULFSTREAM PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


6th: FL-bred MDN CLM, 3yo-F, 6f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #4 Stellar Vision 5-2 WON
Best Value: #1 French Flame 8-1 9th
Next Best: #5 Blake'sluckypenny 6-1 2nd
Super Add: #2 D' wild Angel 10-1 4th


7th: CLM, 3yo-F, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #9 Sweet N Sour Nina 3-1 WON
Best Value: #8 Maddie's Odyssey 6-1 2nd
Next Best: #6 Dare to Double 6-1 5th
Super Add: #4 Republican 12-1 6th


8th: CLM, 4+, 8.5f-T (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #10 Inca King 7-2 WON
Next Best: #6 Optimer 4-1 6th
Best Value: #8 David K 12-1 9th
Super Add: #5 Big Jerome 6-1 2nd


9th: MDN CLM, 4+, 8.5f-T (Super)

Most Likely: #6 Tigresco 3-1 10th
Best Value: #5 Island Dreaming 10-1 11th
Next Best: #7 Perfect Boom 6-1 3rd
Super Add: #2 Alpha Glitter 8-1 4th


@$50 P4 Play:

6: 4
7: 4-6-7-8-9-10
8: 6-8-10
9: 2-5-6-7-8-10

1x6x3x6 = 108 x .50 = $54


Good luck!
Steve

[Kasept]

AQU SCR/CHG'S


4TH: 3 Carter's Store Early


5TH: 1 Secret Tracker Early


7TH: 1 (poe) King David J Early

[Kasept]

GP SCR/CHG'S


Race: 6 Changes Time Posted
#6 Proud Lucy Scratched - Trainer 11:46 AM ET
#11 Island Time Scratched - Trainer 11:46 AM ET

Race: 8 Changes Time Posted
#12 Hard Top (IRE) Scratched - Veterinarian 11:46 AM ET
#13 Formal King Scratched - Main-Track-Only 11:46 AM ET
#14 Fort Denmark Scratched - Main-Track-Only 11:46 AM ET
#15 Face the Cat Scratched - Re-entered 11:46 AM ET
#16 Justin Rules Scratched - Re-entered 11:46 AM ET

Race: 9 Changes Time Posted
#3 Unbridled Future Scratched - Trainer 11:46 AM ET
#5 Island Dreaming Jockey changed to C. Velasquez 11:46 AM ET
#11 Target Locked Scratched - Trainer 11:46 AM ET
#13 Mr. Realistic Scratched - Main-Track-Only 11:46 AM ET
#16 Lt. John Scratched - Re-entered 11:46 AM ET

[Gaelic Storm]

When the pick 4 is paying 3 out of 4 it doesn't matter which 3 you have does it? And also if you are allive to everyone but 1 horse with pretty good sized payouts what is the best way to back that up? A big win bet, exacta's, Tri, or .10 supers? Lets say the horse you are not alive to is 8-1.

[Gaelic Storm]

Another question I am hoping someone can help me with. Let's say, hypothetically, you and few friends go in on a pick 4 and hit it for large amount. Do you all get a W2 or does on person have to take it? Can it be split up in different amounts (1 person was in for 50% and 2 others had 25% each)?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Gaelic Storm

Another question I am hoping someone can help me with. Let's say, hypothetically, you and few friends go in on a pick 4 and hit it for large amount. Do you all get a W2 or does on person have to take it? Can it be split up in different amounts (1 person was in for 50% and 2 others had 25% each)?

I don't think the track will split the w2..Isnt better to give some fine SS collecting Senior Citizen 10% and move on?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Gaelic Storm

Another question I am hoping someone can help me with. Let's say, hypothetically, you and few friends go in on a pick 4 and hit it for large amount. Do you all get a W2 or does on person have to take it? Can it be split up in different amounts (1 person was in for 50% and 2 others had 25% each)?

There's a form for this. Ask at the track/otb.

[blackthroatedwind]

You can split W2s with more than one person. I've done it.

[Scav]

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5754.pdf

They should have this form onsite, some do, some don't.

[asudevil]

Races are making me meshugina....

[Gaelic Storm]

Thanks for the info. I am still interested in any hedging strategies. Today, because of the 3 out 4's, we had every one covered but the 8. We thew in another $72 and played tri's 8/all/all. Was that smart, or just wasting money. Usually when that situation comes up there are more uncovered horses so the hedging becomes more difficult. Anyone have any strategies?

[hockey2315]

Just bet a win if you need the sanity insurance - but don't go crazy . . . no point in wasting money on hedging a horse you liked so little that he was the only one you didn't use. If the pay-offs are HUGE, like you're guaranteed several thousand minimum - then that's a different story.