Watched Flower Alley work this morning

Just got back from the workouts and Flower Alley went this morning. We got him going 5f in 1:00:3 breezing right after the break. Some may have timed him in 6f as he had a very strong run up to the 5f pole. Angel was aboard.

Silver Wagon had the work of the morning going 5f about two minutes before Flower Alley did in 1:00 flat breezing, jock never asked him at all.

Bluegrass Cat's workout yesterday was the work of the meet, even better than Bernadini's work last week. Bluegrass Cat went 5 and galloped out 6 in 1:13 with incredible internal fractions accomplished with total ease. The lightbulb apparently has come on for good in this horse's head and hes gonna give Bernadini every bit he can handle on Saturday. Hes ready.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Just got back from the workouts and Flower Alley went this morning. We got him going 5f in 1:00:3 breezing right after the break. Some may have timed him in 6f as he had a very strong run up to the 5f pole. Angel was aboard.

Silver Wagon had the work of the morning going 5f about two minutes before Flower Alley did in 1:00 flat breezing, jock never asked him at all.

Bluegrass Cat's workout yesterday was the work of the meet, even better than Bernadini's work last week. Bluegrass Cat went 5 and galloped out 6 in 1:13 with incredible internal fractions accomplished with total ease. The lightbulb apparently has come on for good in this horse's head and hes gonna give Bernadini every bit he can handle on Saturday. Hes ready.

Thanks for the report Oracle. Good to see that Flower Alley is at least working well. I think the works tell so much about a horse (especially when you get to see them live). Any info on how the horses looked after their works?

[Seattleallstar]

but Oracle remember Lava Man will crush Flower Alley when they run

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Thanks for the report Oracle. Good to see that Flower Alley is at least working well. I think the works tell so much about a horse (especially when you get to see them live). Any info on how the horses looked after their works?

Everyone looked fine. Flower has never been one to work super fast so the workout was in line with a maintenance breeze. He should work once more in about a week for the Woodward. I will let you know how that goes.

Bluegrass Cat's work was mindblowing.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Everyone looked fine. Flower has never been one to work super fast so the workout was in line with a maintenance breeze. He should work once more in about a week for the Woodward. I will let you know how that goes.

Bluegrass Cat's work was mindblowing.

Thanks again Oracle. I am still on the Flower Alley bandwagon for at least one more race.

[Danzig]

maybe flower alleys problem is that FA suddenly means fat a$$, and it's slowing him down....

ok, before you fans jump on me, it's a joke!

[Danzig]

oh, and good to hear about bluegrass cat. i'm hoping for quite a show, with no excuses!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

Bluegrass Cat's workout yesterday was the work of the meet, even better than Bernadini's work last week. Bluegrass Cat went 5 and galloped out 6 in 1:13 with incredible internal fractions accomplished with total ease. The lightbulb apparently has come on for good in this horse's head and hes gonna give Bernadini every bit he can handle on Saturday. Hes ready.

This colt isn't in the same ballpark of talent with Bernardini....He may be on his gae right now, but he is running to complete the exacta in the Travers, which is no disgrace....believe me, many of the top horses from the past decade would be running for the same thing if they were up against this monster....Wonder what the straight EX will pay?...probably a little under $10..

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

This colt isn't in the same ballpark of talent with Bernardini....He may be on his gae right now, but he is running to complete the exacta in the Travers, which is no disgrace....believe me, many of the top horses from the past decade would be running for the same thing if they were up against this monster....Wonder what the straight EX will pay?...probably a little under $10..

I agree, Joel. I'll have a knot in my stomach before the race, but I am enormously confident in Bernardini. This isn't a knock against BC but Bernardini is special and I think he will prove it again. I just love that he can adapt to any pace scenario and any track condition. I almost wish Javier would send him to the lead and let the others try to play catch up........they'd never be able to. However, at 1 1/4, I don't think that's a good idea.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I agree, Joel. I'll have a knot in my stomach before the race, but I am enormously confident in Bernardini. This isn't a knock against BC but Bernardini is special and I think he will prove it again. I just love that he can adapt to any pace scenario and any track condition. I almost wish Javier would send him to the lead and let the others try to play catch up........they'd never be able to. However, at 1 1/4, I don't think that's a good idea.

I'm incredibly confident in him too. He wins by open lengths here in this spot while showing what he is all about. His only opponent is going to be the clock. There won't be much of a race other than that.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I agree, Joel. I'll have a knot in my stomach before the race, but I am enormously confident in Bernardini. This isn't a knock against BC but Bernardini is special and I think he will prove it again. I just love that he can adapt to any pace scenario and any track condition. I almost wish Javier would send him to the lead and let the others try to play catch up........they'd never be able to. However, at 1 1/4, I don't think that's a good idea.

Do you own Bernardini or are you just a little crazy?

[Danzig]

bernardini looked good, but so did bluegrass cat. both have been doing well this year. hard for me to choose one over the other. let them decide, we sure won't!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I agree, Joel. I'll have a knot in my stomach before the race, but I am enormously confident in Bernardini. This isn't a knock against BC but Bernardini is special and I think he will prove it again. I just love that he can adapt to any pace scenario and any track condition. I almost wish Javier would send him to the lead and let the others try to play catch up........they'd never be able to. However, at 1 1/4, I don't think that's a good idea.

you really think he's run enough times to show you he can adapt to differing pace and conditions?

bluegrass has an edge right now in my book, he's run 10f and longer this year, bernardini hasn't gone longer than in the preakness. it's interesting to me that this late in the year, a supposed hoy contender hasn't even run at the 'classic' distance yet. of course with his pedigree, you'd expect it not to be a problem...but then again he has no idea who his daddy is!

i've seen a lot of horses over the years, including a lot who tantalized so many fans only to fall far short of hype and expectations. i hope he's genuine...but i don't have as much confidence as some here seem to.

bring on the travers!

[Danzig]

and i just read Bright One is out of the travers, he's ill. they hope to go to the super derby instead.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Do you own Bernardini or are you just a little crazy?

I'll choose not to take your post as an insult even though you did mean it that way. Give me a break. I really don't care if you think I'm biased or not. I have supreme confidence in Bernardini and he will prove it. I think it's rather disturbing that if one expresses faith in Bernardini, he or she is shot down as being completely biased. Yet, if someone else expresses that same faith in Bluegrass Cat, he or she is not attacked. I can smell the hypocrisy a mile away. Either way, whatever. The Travers will be here soon enough; some people will be eating crow and some will be crowing about the results.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

you really think he's run enough times to show you he can adapt to differing pace and conditions?

bluegrass has an edge right now in my book, he's run 10f and longer this year, bernardini hasn't gone longer than in the preakness. it's interesting to me that this late in the year, a supposed hoy contender hasn't even run at the 'classic' distance yet. of course with his pedigree, you'd expect it not to be a problem...but then again he has no idea who his daddy is!

i've seen a lot of horses over the years, including a lot who tantalized so many fans only to fall far short of hype and expectations. i hope he's genuine...but i don't have as much confidence as some here seem to.

bring on the travers!

If I even attempt to answer your question, I'm going to be attacked as being a Bernardini lover........nonetheless, IMO, yes. Bernardini has proven he can run from off the pace or win on the lead; he's shown he can win on sloppy conditions..........which is not a given for good horses. Some good horses never lifted their hooves in the mud. This is all I have to say about Bernardini for now because I don't feel like being attacked.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

bluegrass has an edge right now in my book, he's run 10f and longer this year, bernardini hasn't gone longer than in the preakness. it's interesting to me that this late in the year, a supposed hoy contender hasn't even run at the 'classic' distance yet. of course with his pedigree, you'd expect it not to be a problem...but then again he has no idea who his daddy is!

Bluegrass Cat has an edge? ...Wow, what a statement. Bernardini won a CLASSIC in a run-away in just his 4th start....I seriously doubt the extra sixteenth of a mile will bother this horse at all.

I am actually a Bluegrass Cat fan...I used him well in the Derby and hit nicely with him in the EX spot at 35-1...I loved him in the Belmont but he had a bad trip and that is probably what cost him from winning that race over Jazil IMO....BUT, he is not in the sae ballpark as Bernardini...he just isn't...

...he'll run his 4 on the sheets like usual and Bernardini will run around a scratch performance and dust him....he's just in another league - like Tiger right now on the PGA Tour..not that Vijay or Phil or any of those guys suck, but Tiger is simply in another talent galaxy from those guys, ad that is how I feel about Bernardini....

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Bluegrass Cat has an edge? ...Wow, what a statement. Bernardini won a CLASSIC in a run-away in just his 4th start....I seriously doubt the extra sixteenth of a mile will bother this horse at all.

I am actually a Bluegrass Cat fan...I used him well in the Derby and hit nicely with him in the EX spot at 35-1...I loved him in the Belmont but he had a bad trip and that is probably what cost him from winning that race over Jazil IMO....BUT, he is not in the sae ballpark as Bernardini...he just isn't...

...he'll run his 4 on the sheets like usual and Bernardini will run around a scratch performance and dust him....he's just in another league - like Tiger right now on the PGA Tour..not that Vijay or Phil or any of those guys suck, but Tiger is simply in another talent galaxy from those guys, ad that is how I feel about Bernardini....

All I know is that I would rather have Todd Pletcher in my corner on Saturday than anyone else. Apparently ole Tommy boy's meet isn't going so well. Guy has all that valuabel anbd expensive horseflesh in his barn and after 4 weeks he still sadly only has one win. I know you all couldnt wait to jump ugly on me after i ridiculed his job with Songster. Appears I know more as usual. one win in 4 weeks, geez thats just swell.

Originally Posted by oracle80

All I know is that I would rather have Todd Pletcher in my corner on Saturday than anyone else. Apparently ole Tommy boy's meet isn't going so well. Guy has all that valuabel anbd expensive horseflesh in his barn and after 4 weeks he still sadly only has one win. I know you all couldnt wait to jump ugly on me after i ridiculed his job with Songster. Appears I know more as usual. one win in 4 weeks, geez thats just swell.

Sure, Todd is probably a better trainer...no arguement there. But, a great horse is dangerous in any man's hands.....Just look at guys like Leroy Jolley and Bill Turner, etc....those guys couldn't win a one-horse race these days, but did fine when they had steam boats in there barns...

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Sure, Todd is probably a better trainer...no arguement there. But, a great horse is dangerous in any man's hands.....Just look at guys like Leroy Jolley and Bill Turner, etc....those guys couldn't win a one-horse race these days, but did fine when they had steam boats in there barns...

I expected a better argument Joel from all those just dying for him to win a race since I jumped all over him for a LOUSY job with Songster. Alas, he hasnt won a race since then. And please, with all the Sheikh horses I really don't wanna hear about his stock or lack of it. Fact is if you have to bet he or Todd on Saturday, well, you make the call. I know my money goes on the most competent trainer who always tries hard, Todd Pletcher.