Woodard Double Positive

[randallscott35]

I'm sure its just a lab mix-up.

http://drf.com/news/article/111479.html

[VOL JACK]

Hmmm...I wondered why he went from roughly a 8% in 2006-2008 to over 30% in 2009.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Hmmm...I wondered why he went from roughly a 8% in 2006-2008 to over 30% in 2009.

Logic would say that his main owner started spending money again buying and claiming cheap horses but this time has decided to concentrate on two of the worst circuits in America?

Doug O'Neil hasn't missed this trick as he has become a regular at Beulah.

It isnt hard to win races (especially at tracks where the competition is so feeble) if you are willing to lose a lot of money.


Every trainer in America uses those meds.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Doug O'Neil hasn't missed this trick as he has become a regular at Beulah.

14% at SA
42% at Charles Town

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

14% at SA
42% at Charles Town

I cant knock a guy for running horses at CT. At least the purse levels are that of a B level track. Beulah is a tragic joke.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I cant knock a guy for running horses at CT. At least the purse levels are that of a B level track. Beulah is a tragic joke.

So you can lose money losing a races or you can lose money winning races..Well I choose option B who needs to lose and lose

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So you can lose money losing a races or you can lose money winning races..Well I choose option B who needs to lose and lose

The pots at CT are good enough to make money with, especially if you are hitting at 42%. At Beulah you can be 100% and lose pretty much all your money.

3/19 total purses for 8 races at Beu -36k
3/17 total purses for 8 races at Beu -32k
3/16 total purses for 9 races at Beu - 38k

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Logic would say that his main owner started spending money again buying and claiming cheap horses but this time has decided to concentrate on two of the worst circuits in America?

Doug O'Neil hasn't missed this trick as he has become a regular at Beulah.

It isnt hard to win races (especially at tracks where the competition is so feeble) if you are willing to lose a lot of money.


Every trainer in America uses those meds.

Woodard is a joke...If he cheats it is a Vet accident...because he is not calling the shots.
He is exhibit A, that a high win % does not exactly mean a sharp trainer.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The pots at CT are good enough to make money with, especially if you are hitting at 42%. At Beulah you can be 100% and lose pretty much all your money.

3/19 total purses for 8 races at Beu -36k
3/17 total purses for 8 races at Beu -32k
3/16 total purses for 9 races at Beu - 38k

What's scary is they average $1.5 million or so in total handle on Mondays and Tuesdays. I guess people really will bet on anything!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Woodard is a joke...If he cheats it is a Vet accident...because he is not calling the shots.
He is exhibit A, that a high win % does not exactly mean a sharp trainer.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

What's scary is they average $1.5 million or so in total handle on Mondays and Tuesdays. I guess people really will bet on anything!

Hard to believe how bad the racing is there. Just awful

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hard to believe how bad the racing is there. Just awful

The horse are for sale at 3 times slaughter?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The horse are for sale at 3 times slaughter?

At face value they are

Why anyone would choose to be there is a mystery to me.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I cant knock a guy for running horses at CT. At least the purse levels are that of a B level track. Beulah is a tragic joke.

In the last week or two I've been seeing O'Neill on almost every card. He ships the pigs that can't win at Philly or Penn to CT and usually cashes a check. No idea why he would even bother with Beulah.

He has a maiden tomorrow that he keeps dropping off good performances that should win for fun if the duct tape holds together and the favorite in the finale that will likely win if the Ralph Comi Jr juice monster doesn't draw in.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At face value they are

Why anyone would choose to be there is a mystery to me.

Fn ridiculous that horses are used to compete at such disdainful levels.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At face value they are

Why anyone would choose to be there is a mystery to me.

That's what I'm wondering...what is the draw for guys like that to race there. I understand the people who have been there for years but these other guys...I don't get it. Do you think it is just to get some numbers in the win column?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

That's what I'm wondering...what is the draw for guys like that to race there. I understand the people who have been there for years but these other guys...I don't get it. Do you think it is just to get some numbers in the win column?

I horse costs 2k a month at least to keep in training...win a 4k purse and live another month

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I horse costs 2k a month at least to keep in training...win a 4k purse and live another month

But wouldn't it be more profitable to package a couple of those horses up for a couple thousand dollars and just sell them to one of the Beulah based trainers? Maybe they just want a win picture?

[Sightseek]

In re: O' Neil

Has Reddham stopped buying horses all together?

[tiggerv]

Look at the 3rd race from Beulah today where O'Neil had the winner. I can't believe the O'Neil horse paid $3.80 against that field.

Trainer of the 2 is 1/38 at BEU
Trainer of the 3 is 1/35 at BEU
Trainer of the 4 is 1/19 at BEU
Trainer of the 5 is 4/125 at BEU