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Old 04-28-2010, 08:32 PM
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TheGreek is first out with matchups and props...

Here are some over/unders for finishing position:

Lookin At Lucky - Finishing position will be
409 Over 3˝ position +100
410 Under 3˝ position -130

Ice Box - Finishing position will be
411 Over 7˝ position -115
412 Under 7˝ position -115

Devil May Care - Finishing position will be
413 Over 8˝ position -115
414 Under 8˝ position -115

Jackson Bend - Finishing position will be
415 Over 8˝ position -130
416 Under 8˝ position +100

Mission Impazible - Finishing position will be
417 Over 8˝ position +105
418 Under 8˝ position -135

Awesome Act - Finishing position will be
419 Over 6˝ position -115
420 Under 6˝ position -115

Dublin - Finishing position will be
421 Over 8˝ position -115
422 Under 8˝ position -115

Sidneys Candy - Finishing position will be
423 Over 6˝ position -105
424 Under 6˝ position -125
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Odds to finish in the Top 4 positions
601 Lookin At Lucky -145
602 Ice Box +285
603 Nobles Promise +285
604 Super Saver +265
605 Line of David +805
606 Stately Victor +685
607 American Lion +505
608 Deans Kitten +1085
609 Make Music For Me +1085
610 Paddy OPrado +485
611 Devil May Care +285
612 Conveyance +305
613 Jackson Bend +305
614 Mission Impazible +305
615 Discreetly Mine +925
616 Awesome Act +185
617 Dublin +325
618 Backtalk +1215
619 Homeboykris +805
620 Sidneys Candy +145
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And some matchups:
5/1/2010 5:10 PM Lookin At Lucky vs Sidneys Candy
301 Lookin At Lucky -205
302 Sidneys Candy +170

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Ice Box vs Devil May Care
303 Ice Box -130
304 Devil May Care +100

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Nobles Promise vs Conveyance
305 Nobles Promise -145
306 Conveyance +115

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Super Saver vs Jackson Bend
307 Super Saver -130
308 Jackson Bend +100

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Paddy OPrado vs Mission Impazible
309 Paddy OPrado +120
310 Mission Impazible -150

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Line of David vs Stately Victor
311 Line of David -115
312 Stately Victor -115

5/1/2010 5:10 PM American Lion vs Discreetly Mine
313 American Lion -160
314 Discreetly Mine +130

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Deans Kitten vs Make Music For Me
315 Deans Kitten -115
316 Make Music For Me -115

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Backtalk vs Homeboykris
317 Backtalk +120
318 Homeboykris -150

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Awesome Act vs Dublin
319 Awesome Act -150
320 Dublin +120

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Devil May Care vs Conveyance
321 Devil May Care -155
322 Conveyance +125

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Nobles Promise vs Ice Box
323 Nobles Promise +100
324 Ice Box -130

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Jackson Bend vs Mission Impazible
325 Jackson Bend -115
326 Mission Impazible -115

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Awesome Act vs Devil May Care
327 Awesome Act -150
328 Devil May Care +120

5/1/2010 5:10 PM Line of David vs American Lion
329 Line of David +120
330 American Lion -150



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Old 04-28-2010, 08:44 PM
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Dunbar,
Thanks for taking the time to post these and the off shore odds over the last couple of weeks.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:48 PM
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Jackson Bend under 8.5 +100 looks good
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:25 PM
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I like JB as well, but would lean towards this prop;

613 Jackson Bend +305


Like the +305 better, and figure he's in the top 5, or just doesn't run. Think everyone knows he hasn't finished worse than 2nd in any race. IMO better wager than top 8 at +105.

BOL with your plays!
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:43 PM
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i'm going with looking at lucky. i thought he was the best horse even with Eskendereya in the race.

the rail is not a problem for a closer.

gomez gets his first derby win.

watch out for borel.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:22 PM
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Here's one at TheGreek that looks tempting ...

Odds to finish in the EXACT 10th position
701 Lookin At Lucky +1615
702 Ice Box +1615
703 Nobles Promise +1615
704 Super Saver +1615
705 Line of David +1615
706 Stately Victor +1615
707 American Lion +1615
708 Deans Kitten +1615
709 Make Music For Me +1615
710 Paddy OPrado +1615
711 Devil May Care +1615
712 Conveyance +1615
713 Jackson Bend +1615
714 Mission Impazible +1615
715 Discreetly Mine +1615
716 Awesome Act +1615
717 Dublin +1615
718 Backtalk +1615
719 Homeboykris +1615
720 Sidneys Candy +1615


In other words, you get 16.15 to 1 on ANY horse you want, and you get paid if it finishes 10th.

If all the horses have an equal chance to finish 10th, then the bet has a vig of -14%. BUT, if you can eliminate 4 horses from finishing 10th, then the bet has an average return of +7%.

So, which 4 (or more) horses will definitely NOT finish 10th?


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