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Old 08-23-2006, 11:56 AM
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1. Hesanoldsalt - E. Coa - 15-1
2. Minister's Bid - E. Prado - 8-1
3. Dr. Pleasure - C. Velasquez - 12-1
4. High Cotton - G. Gomez - 6-1
5. Bernardini - J. Castellano - 1-1
6. Kip Deville - R. Bejarano - 30-1
7. Bluegrass Cat - J. Velazquez - 2-1
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:05 PM
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1. Hesanoldsalt - E. Coa - 15-1
2. Minister's Bid - E. Prado - 8-1
3. Dr. Pleasure - C. Velasquez - 12-1
4. High Cotton - G. Gomez - 6-1
5. Bernardini - J. Castellano - 1-1
6. Kip Deville - R. Bejarano - 30-1
7. Bluegrass Cat - J. Velazquez - 2-1
Kip Deville, well ain't we got pace now!!!! WOO HOO!! No easy leads this time for Bernadini!!
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:09 PM
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Kip Deville, well ain't we got pace now!!!! WOO HOO!! No easy leads this time for Bernadini!!
You think Bejarano will send? hahahahah
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:09 PM
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Whoa! I can't wait to see this!
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:10 PM
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Bernardini will laugh at Kip Deville - they don't even belong in the same breath. Kip will fold like a cheap suit at the least pressure.....besides, it's not like Bernardini can't run from off the pace. He can do whatever is asked of him. Kip is the least of his concerns.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:11 PM
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You think Bejarano will send? hahahahah
You mean Castellano? I seriously thought he would do it without Bright One, but now? No - let Kip burn himself out with his cheap speed. Bernardini will be stalking, ready to pounce.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:13 PM
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Bernardini will laugh at Kip Deville - they don't even belong in the same breath. Kip will fold like a cheap suit at the least pressure.....besides, it's not like Bernardini can't run from off the pace. He can do whatever is asked of him. Kip is the least of his concerns.
You are right Betsy, Bernardini can do anything that is asked of him in the racing game. He has proved this time and time again in his extensive list of starts.

Shoot, I think they should just give everyone a 10 length head start and ask Bernardini to jump some fences every couple of furlongs. Then people would realize his greatness. I mean "he can do whatever is asked of him."
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:14 PM
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You mean Castellano? I seriously thought he would do it without Bright One, but now? No - let Kip burn himself out with his cheap speed. Bernardini will be stalking, ready to pounce.
No, I mean Bejarano....on Kip Deville. It was a joke
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:17 PM
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1. Hesanoldsalt - E. Coa - 15-1
2. Minister's Bid - E. Prado - 8-1
3. Dr. Pleasure - C. Velasquez - 12-1
4. High Cotton - G. Gomez - 6-1
5. Bernardini - J. Castellano - 1-1
6. Kip Deville - R. Bejarano - 30-1
7. Bluegrass Cat - J. Velazquez - 2-1
Minister's Bid and Dr Pleasure aren't coupled?
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:41 PM
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Kip Deville, well ain't we got pace now!!!! WOO HOO!! No easy leads this time for Bernadini!!
The speed hurts Bluegrass Cat more so than Bernardini. Bernardini doesnt need the lead, not did he want it in the Jim Dandy. He just inheirted the lead because the other horses sucked so bad. Bernardini will win by 5. I dont know why people are excited about this race. I mean we have a good field and I love that, but Bernardini handles this field with ease.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:45 PM
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The speed hurts Bluegrass Cat more so than Bernardini. Bernardini doesnt need the lead, not did he want it in the Jim Dandy. He just inheirted the lead because the other horses sucked so bad. Bernardini will win by 5. I dont know why people are excited about this race. I mean we have a good field and I love that, but Bernardini handles this field with ease.
I agree, the post is great for Bernardini, he can sit off the cheap speed of Kip Deville and High Cotton, Bluegrass Cat has to try to get the ju8mp on Bernardini, even so, I don't think he is in the same zip code, he's running for second, maybe, Ministers Bid could just as easily be second as well.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:57 PM
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Kip Deville, well ain't we got pace now!!!! WOO HOO!! No easy leads this time for Bernadini!!
That's very interesting to see Kip in there, if he can carry that flashy speed to the dirt, Bernardini is not going to get this race gift wrapped to him like he has in the last two. He's going to have to put him away, have others run at him and then hold off closers. I like Bernardini and I think he's extremely talented, but he has been on the recieving end of two perfect storms. I want him to earn it and if he does, he will finally deserve the praise he's received...
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:59 PM
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Bernardini will win because he is God's horse. No horse can compare to this noble steed.

The owners and trainers of the competition are fools. Why enter their horses into this race to face certain defeat? The great Bernardini will rise to the challenge and lead the chants of ALLAH AKBAR when he enters the winners circle.


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Old 08-23-2006, 01:12 PM
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Yep. It's Bernardini 1st, Bluegrass Cat 2nd (like the derby and belmont) and the rest are fighting for 3rd.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:31 PM
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Remember how easy Showing Up went by Kip? Wait until you see Bernardini make it look even easier. Dont blink or you might miss it.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:38 PM
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Remember how easy Showing Up went by Kip? Wait until you see Bernardini make it look even easier. Dont blink or you might miss it.
They went 1:08 on Turf, I hope Showing Up would blow by him, the amazing thing was Kip held on for 2nd...
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:46 PM
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Ya and the jockey got criticized. Then the next race the horse goes slower and folds tent as the favorite. Peculiar race. Peculiar horse. I dont see how he changes Bernardini's result in any way. Castellano is too smart to chase him and this horse isnt nearly good enough to pull a theft job. The only horse this may help out is High Cotton, who potentially could get a golden stalking trip and the first run on the rest of them.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:47 PM
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I agree, the post is great for Bernardini, he can sit off the cheap speed of Kip Deville and High Cotton, Bluegrass Cat has to try to get the ju8mp on Bernardini, even so, I don't think he is in the same zip code, he's running for second, maybe, Ministers Bid could just as easily be second as well.
There is no doubt that BC has got to stay in front of Bern. No way does BC pass Bern in the stretch.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:54 PM
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There is no doubt that BC has got to stay in front of Bern. No way does BC pass Bern in the stretch.
How can you say that?

When has Bernardini had to fight back and hold someone off, we know he has talent, but does he have heart? That hasn't been answered yet and anyone that says he does is a fool and should take up another sport. Bernardini won the Preakness after Barbaro broke down, Brother Derek getting hurt, and Sweetnorthernsaint being over the top. After that he got a easy lead and ran away. Can anyone deny this? Please tell me something different. I like this horse, but you are insane to annoint him anything other than what has happened, until he proves it...
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:57 PM
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Cheap speed is a non-factor. Kip is a nothing horse and will have no effect on this race. There is no way his presence should affect any other horse. They can let him go out there and get 15 in front if he wants to because he's shown that he can't finish even when running shorter distances so he'll come back to them here too.
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