The End Of Men

[randallscott35]

A must read article. We will discuss later.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...d-of-men/8135/

[joeydb]

Bull. End political correctness -- all the proactive efforts to boost women over men: hiring practices, college admission goals, the destruction of men's capital in every divorce proceeding -- and then we'll see who succeeds.

How did all that cool stuff get invented anyway? Who did it?

I'm not a chauvenist -- never was -- but enough is enough. Men, especially caucasian men, are the only permissable targets of every joke or humorous situation. They are the only ones allowed to appear foolish in the media. And it is all a fabrication, brought about by political correctness and the fear of lawyers.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bull. End political correctness -- all the proactive efforts to boost women over men: hiring practices, college admission goals, the destruction of men's capital in every divorce proceeding -- and then we'll see who succeeds.

How did all that cool stuff get invented anyway? Who did it?

I'm not a chauvenist -- never was -- but enough is enough. Men, especially caucasian men, are the only permissable targets of every joke or humorous situation. They are the only ones allowed to appear foolish in the media. And it is all a fabrication, brought about by political correctness and the fear of lawyers.

the minute you say you shouldn't be the target of ridicule you look ridiculous.

no one tries to subvert the underclass.

relax.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bull. End political correctness -- all the proactive efforts to boost women over men: hiring practices, college admission goals, the destruction of men's capital in every divorce proceeding -- and then we'll see who succeeds.

How did all that cool stuff get invented anyway? Who did it?

I'm not a chauvenist -- never was -- but enough is enough. Men, especially caucasian men, are the only permissable targets of every joke or humorous situation. They are the only ones allowed to appear foolish in the media. And it is all a fabrication, brought about by political correctness and the fear of lawyers.

lol..you don't think we brought it on ourselves over the years?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

the minute you say you shouldn't be the target of ridicule you look ridiculous.

no one tries to subvert the underclass.

relax.

How about just not disproportionate ridicule? How about if they are as afraid to offend us as they are the National Organization For Women or the NAACP?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by joeydb

How about just not disproportionate ridicule? How about if they are as afraid to offend us as they are the National Organization For Women or the NAACP?

again...

you miss the difference between overclass and underclass.

if you want to be a black woman, have at it.

[joeydb]

The difference between overclass and underclass is defined by the observer, and is relative by definition. In any case, the overclass is not obligated to take more crap because of that alleged status.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The difference between overclass and underclass is defined by the observer, and is relative by definition. In any case, the overclass is not obligated to take more crap because of that alleged status.

said the white guy.

[brianwspencer]

My gentle tears for your plight are overflowing, joeydb.

I truly feel for you and wish that we could somehow reverse all of the things that made being a white, straight, able-bodied man as ridiculously tough and patently unfair as it is these days.

It really has gotten out of control, and we should all band together and find a way to do something about it because nobody should have to go through life being that disadvantaged in so many ways. How can anyone ever have any reasonable expectation of success, what with so many strikes against them before they even get started?

It's a testament to your fortitude that you've managed to overcome all of your inherent disadvantages, joeydb, and because of that example you've set and the incredible courage you've shown in refusing to be kept down and never taking no for an answer, I'm glad to say that I'm proud to share this internet space with a true American success story and hero like you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

My gentle tears for your plight are overflowing, joeydb.

I truly feel for you and wish that we could somehow reverse all of the things that made being a white, straight, able-bodied man as ridiculously tough and patently unfair as it is these days.

It really has gotten out of control, and we should all band together and find a way to do something about it because nobody should have to go through life being that disadvantaged in so many ways. How can anyone ever have any reasonable expectation of success, what with so many strikes against them before they even get started?

It's a testament to your fortitude that you've managed to overcome all of your inherent disadvantages, joeydb, and because of that example you've set and the incredible courage you've shown in refusing to be kept down and never taking no for an answer, I'm glad to say that I'm proud to share this internet space with a true American success story and hero like you.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

My gentle tears for your plight are overflowing, joeydb.

I truly feel for you and wish that we could somehow reverse all of the things that made being a white, straight, able-bodied man as ridiculously tough and patently unfair as it is these days.

It really has gotten out of control, and we should all band together and find a way to do something about it because nobody should have to go through life being that disadvantaged in so many ways. How can anyone ever have any reasonable expectation of success, what with so many strikes against them before they even get started?

It's a testament to your fortitude that you've managed to overcome all of your inherent disadvantages, joeydb, and because of that example you've set and the incredible courage you've shown in refusing to be kept down and never taking no for an answer, I'm glad to say that I'm proud to share this internet space with a true American success story and hero like you.

Wow, no "white, straight, able-bodied man" (you're guessing on all counts) should bother sticking up for himself, or consider not taking the B.S. of any countergroups because, why, it hurts your feelings?

If you feel threatened by (gasp) someone challenging all this political correctness, I guess it's really a house of cards. Wow, imagine if I were in elected office -- we could trash all this P.C. stuff overnight.

I don't need to be politically correct. "Political" is a qualifier of sorts -- I'm just correct.

Interesting that the colleges have "Women's studies" and "Latino Studies" and others, but not "White Male" studies. Actually, they do. It's called "History".

I reject ALL of the group rights focus. The individual is where all rights reside, no matter what ethnic background, sex, lifestyle, whatever. But no individual should be penalized because of his or her background - not even the white ones.

Oh, and by the way, a group cannot claim equality and rely on preferences at the same time.

[Riot]

joey, I think you're going to be very disappointed in the future, white males in the US are on the way to permanent minority status.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

joey, I think you're going to be very disappointed in the future, white males in the US are on the way to permanent minority status.

Why would I care about that? It's not the numerical amount of white males. It's whether every other group will be given advantages and preferences over them. That's the argument.

Will they suddenly get all kinds of preferences once they slip into the minority? I think not. This always seems to be a one way street. The majority -- today I guess it's slightly "white" -- is always the group paying for all this crap. The working people can't stay home and have as many kids as they want. Nobody is going to pay for THEIR kids. They don't get an unearned check.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Wow, no "white, straight, able-bodied man" (you're guessing on all counts) should bother sticking up for himself, or consider not taking the B.S. of any countergroups because, why, it hurts your feelings?

If you feel threatened by (gasp) someone challenging all this political correctness, I guess it's really a house of cards. Wow, imagine if I were in elected office -- we could trash all this P.C. stuff overnight.

I don't need to be politically correct. "Political" is a qualifier of sorts -- I'm just correct.

Interesting that the colleges have "Women's studies" and "Latino Studies" and others, but not "White Male" studies. Actually, they do. It's called "History".

I reject ALL of the group rights focus. The individual is where all rights reside, no matter what ethnic background, sex, lifestyle, whatever. But no individual should be penalized because of his or her background - not even the white ones.

Oh, and by the way, a group cannot claim equality and rely on preferences at the same time.

no "white, straight, able-bodied man" should be carrying the enormous chip on their shoulder you apparently have.

it's amazing you've made it as far as you have with all those disadvantages.

relax a little and enjoy the incredible benefits like i do. drop the pissed off attitude and you'll be amazed at what you can get away with.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

no "white, straight, able-bodied man" should be carrying the enormous chip on their shoulder you apparently have.

it's amazing you've made it as far as you have with all those disadvantages.

relax a little and enjoy the incredible benefits like i do. drop the pissed off attitude and you'll be amazed at what you can get away with.

Not wanting to take the P.C. crap and reverse discrimination is not the same as having "an enormous chip" on one's shoulder.

I didn't start this thread. But when the premise is that "men are about to be useless" it's just pure bull. First, the media and the government stacks the deck against men, especially caucasians, then looks at the stacked deck and says we're not relevant.

The only reason this crap has gotten as far as it has is that the majority has been scared into silence. If everybody spoke up the playing field would truly be even.

[Honu]

Oh whahhhhhhhh , heres some cheese for your whine {::}. Jezzus get a pair already there isnt one group of human being that has more advanatges for being born than a white man.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Not wanting to take the P.C. crap and reverse discrimination is not the same as having "an enormous chip" on one's shoulder.

I didn't start this thread. But when the premise is that "men are about to be useless" it's just pure bull. First, the media and the government stacks the deck against men, especially caucasians, then looks at the stacked deck and says we're not relevant.

The only reason this crap has gotten as far as it has is that the majority has been scared into silence. If everybody spoke up the playing field would truly be even.

i didn't start the thread either. i also didn't take what you apparently did from the article.

but if you want to march through life as an able bodied white male victim, i doubt there's much more i can i say to change your attitude.

you're missing a great party, though.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Wow, no "white, straight, able-bodied man" (you're guessing on all counts) should bother sticking up for himself, or consider not taking the B.S. of any countergroups because, why, it hurts your feelings?

If you feel threatened by (gasp) someone challenging all this political correctness, I guess it's really a house of cards. Wow, imagine if I were in elected office -- we could trash all this P.C. stuff overnight.

I don't need to be politically correct. "Political" is a qualifier of sorts -- I'm just correct.

Interesting that the colleges have "Women's studies" and "Latino Studies" and others, but not "White Male" studies. Actually, they do. It's called "History".

I reject ALL of the group rights focus. The individual is where all rights reside, no matter what ethnic background, sex, lifestyle, whatever. But no individual should be penalized because of his or her background - not even the white ones.

Oh, and by the way, a group cannot claim equality and rely on preferences at the same time.

Someone call the waaaaaaambulance -- woe is the straight, able-bodied, white man and all of his poor, poor disadvantages.

I really do feel for you. It's not threatening at all, trust me. Hilarious and at least a little bit sad, yes, but threatening is about as far from the right word for it as you could possibly find.

Though I'm glad you feel you're fighting a noble fight here, as I don't think there is any denying that you certainly are: standing up for the perpetually underprivileged, universally underrepresented, and always disadvantaged white men out there. Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, and their civil rights pioneer peers would applaud your courage for having the strength to really stand up to the machine here. And I join them, but then again, they're both black and probably are at the core of your being as incredibly disadvantaged as you are right now, so perhaps I chose the wrong set of people -- as they're obviously the root of the advantaged oppressors in this situation, and they're the reason everyone is able to keep you down as they do.

The world would be better off without white people. There definitely wouldn't be any stories on teenagers lost at sea. You don't see black people doing stupid s.hit like that.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

My gentle tears for your plight are overflowing, joeydb.

I truly feel for you and wish that we could somehow reverse all of the things that made being a white, straight, able-bodied man as ridiculously tough and patently unfair as it is these days.

It really has gotten out of control, and we should all band together and find a way to do something about it because nobody should have to go through life being that disadvantaged in so many ways. How can anyone ever have any reasonable expectation of success, what with so many strikes against them before they even get started?

It's a testament to your fortitude that you've managed to overcome all of your inherent disadvantages, joeydb, and because of that example you've set and the incredible courage you've shown in refusing to be kept down and never taking no for an answer, I'm glad to say that I'm proud to share this internet space with a true American success story and hero like you.

I'm sure every white guy out there has had a really easy life. And I'm sure every minority has it sooooo hard and had so much to overcome.

That actually may have been true 40 or 50 years ago. Nowadays, I don't think it's the case at all. If anything, it may even be an advantage to be a minority. I doubt a guy like Tiger Woods would be nearly the celebrity he is if he were just a white guy. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure he would have been the biggest celebrity of any golfer because he is the best. I'm just saying I doubt that he would have been making $100 million a year in endorsement deals if he was white. If he was white, he might have made $60 million a year in endorements. The reason is because it's considered "cool" to be a minority. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying that in this day and age, I don't think there is any disadvantage to being a minority.