"Climategate" - whoops, sorry, no problem, our mistake ...

[Riot]

Curse you, science and reality!

'Climategate' Investigation VINDICATES Scientists, Finds Research Reliable

LONDON — An independent report into the leak of hundreds of e-mails from one of the world's leading climate research centers on Wednesday largely vindicated the scientists involved, saying they acted honestly and that their research was reliable.

But the panel of inquiry, led by former U.K. civil servant Muir Russell, did chide scientists at the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit for failing to share their data with critics.

"We find that their rigor and honesty as scientists are not in doubt," Russell said. "But we do find that there has been a consistent pattern of failing to display the proper degree of openness."

Russell's inquiry is the third major investigation into the theft and dissemination of more than 1,000 e-mails taken from a back-up server at the university.

They caused a sensation when they were published online in November: They captured researchers speaking in scathing terms about their critics, discussing ways to stonewall skeptics of man-made climate change, and talking about how to freeze opponents out of peer-reviewed journals.

The ensuing scandal energized skeptics and destabilized the U.N. climate change conference at Copenhagen. The research center's chief, Phil Jones, stepped down while Russell, a former vice-chancellor of the University of Glasgow in Scotland, was brought in to investigate.

Russell's carefully worded report said there was no evidence Jones had destroyed evidence that he knew critics were seeking under the Freedom of Information Act. But it did say he had pushed colleagues to delete e-mails that he thought might provide ammunition to skeptics.

It also criticized the university for being "unhelpful" in dealing with Freedom of Information Act requests – an issue Britain's data-protection watchdog has already flagged.

The inquiry also revisited the now infamous e-mail exchange between Jones and a colleague in which the climatologist refers to a "trick" used to "hide the decline" in a variable used to track global temperatures.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Curse you, science and reality!

The "Global Warming" madness has nothing to do with either science or reality.

[Riot]

http://www.all4ed.org/files/IntlComp_FactSheet.pdf

"The United States ranks 21st of 30 OECD countries in scientific literacy, and the US score of 489 fell below the OECD average of 500."

"One-quarter (24.4 percent) of US fifteen-year-olds do not reach the baseline level of science achievement. This is the level at which students begin to demonstrate the science competencies that will enable them to use science and technology in life situations."

[joeydb]

You can thank the Department of Education for that stellar record.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Curse you, science and reality!

Fruit of the poisoned tree!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

You can thank the Department of Education for that stellar record.

Let's eliminate it totally.

[clyde]

Wish your name was Quiet.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Fruit of the poisoned tree!

reality?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

http://www.all4ed.org/files/IntlComp_FactSheet.pdf

"The United States ranks 21st of 30 OECD countries in scientific literacy, and the US score of 489 fell below the OECD average of 500."

"One-quarter (24.4 percent) of US fifteen-year-olds do not reach the baseline level of science achievement. This is the level at which students begin to demonstrate the science competencies that will enable them to use science and technology in life situations."

Is this why Obama wants NASA to embrace Muslim countries as its number one priority?

So we can learn from them? After all they are so more advanced than the U.S.!

[AeWingnut]

Independant report

I did another indepedant report and found that the scientists were manipulating the nuimbers

[AeWingnut]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...he-source.html

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by clyde

Wish your name was Quiet.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

kissykissykissykissykissykissykissykissykissykissy kissykissy

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

http://www.all4ed.org/files/IntlComp_FactSheet.pdf

"The United States ranks 21st of 30 OECD countries in scientific literacy, and the US score of 489 fell below the OECD average of 500."

"One-quarter (24.4 percent) of US fifteen-year-olds do not reach the baseline level of science achievement. This is the level at which students begin to demonstrate the science competencies that will enable them to use science and technology in life situations."

They are pretty handy with science and technology. Just hand them a computer or video game!

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by joeydb

You can thank the Department of Education for that stellar record.

Thank Americans for expecting a bloated Govt. agency to do what should be done at home. Parents have dropped the ball when it comes to instilling a will to learn in their kids, and in just not paying attention in general. They can certainly use all the high tech goodies out there right now, they just might have to resort to a life of crime to get them.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Thank Americans for expecting a bloated Govt. agency to do what should be done at home. Parents have dropped the ball when it comes to instilling a will to learn in their kids, and in just not paying attention in general. They can certainly use all the high tech goodies out there right now, they just might have to resort to a life of crime to get them.

So pick one..Home School or bloated Govt? You can't have it both ways

[clyde]

I wonder about SootieFootie...know ahm thayin'?

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by clyde

I wonder about SootieFootie...know ahm thayin'?

I'm not an advocate of home schooling. I just don't blame the Govt. for kids being stupid. The Govt. is to blame for a lot of things, but I wouldn't blame them for kids being stupid just yet.

[SOREHOOF]

Wrong quote.