7/17 (BEL): Jaipur S. (G3)

[Alan07]

9th (5:16) Jaipur S. (G3)

6 Furlongs (Inner Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Yield Bogey Samyn J L 118 L
2 Dubai Rainbow Hill C 118 L
3 Escrow Kid Santiago V 113 L
4 Stradivinsky Lopez C C 118 L
5 Formidable Lezcano J 118 L
6 Our Friend Harvey Bridgmohan S X 118 L
7 Perfect Officer Cohen D 118

[Cannon Shell]

Hard to believe that this race doesnt draw more entries. Always one of my favorite races.

[Cannon Shell]

After looking at the size of the fields of the other races posted...wow. This is like an overflow field!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hard to believe that this race doesnt draw more entries. Always one of my favorite races.

Chuck, as a trainer why do you think connections don't take more chances in stakes? I know it's a multi layered question. But take a look at the sticky threads from today. The only stake that drew a somewhat full field was the turf stake at Delaware. I know there aren't many good horses out there. But with the gap closing in between "good" horses and mediocre, how come more people aren't taking chances in these races?

[hockey2315]

I wonder why Chad Brown didn't send Silver Timber here. . . Maybe a (bogus) distance issue.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Chuck, as a trainer why do you think connections don't take more chances in stakes? I know it's a multi layered question. But take a look at the sticky threads from today. The only stake that drew a somewhat full field was the turf stake at Delaware. I know there aren't many good horses out there. But with the gap closing in between "good" horses and mediocre, how come more people aren't taking chances in these races?

In this particular race they should have kept it at 7f. That way you would have gotten some milers cutting back and shorter horses stretching out. I suppose that the race at Calder last week didn't help though the Dutrow/RR crew has another, more accomplished, off the claim in the Jaipur. Last year the race only got 5 and there is no guarantee there wont be a few defections in this one.

In the East there is little attempt at coordination of stakes which leads to overlapping spots especially in the 3 yo turf division when Colonials races are added in. I know i sound like a broken record but 10-15 years ago the NYRA stakes not only carried much more prestige but the purse levels were a lot higher for the most part. That isn't true anymore. But that only explains the legitimate or semi legitimate stakes horses. I believe that a big reason we see so few horses taking shots in these stakes that a handful of trainers control so much of the talent. Sure they may have a runner in one of these races but they may also have 2 or 3 in the barn that maybe wouldn't be one of the top choices but deserve a chance, especially in the unusual distance races like the 1 1/2 race.

The higher purse levels at Monmouth could be a factor too. An owner or trainer may choose to be 2-1 in an 85k allowance race as opposed to being 6 or 7-1 in a 200k stake.

Win percentage and some trainers obsession with it

Being that you can scratch without reason up to 45 minutes before post in a stake it makes me wonder why guys dont simply nominate and enter and take a look at these races. It isnt like this is a new trend.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I wonder why Chad Brown didn't send Silver Timber here. . . Maybe a (bogus) distance issue.

He ran 3 days ago @ MTH. Probably too much to ask coming back in 6 days.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by philcski

He ran 3 days ago @ MTH. Probably too much to ask coming back in 6 days.

I know. . . I'm wondering why he didn't go here instead.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I know. . . I'm wondering why he didn't go here instead.

Dutrow claimed Stradivinsky for the same connections and he's running here.

NT

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I know. . . I'm wondering why he didn't go here instead.

1/5 for a $100k vs 2-1 or so for $200k, I guess.

He was, however, the defending champ.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Dutrow claimed Stradivinsky for the same connections and he's running here.

NT

Stradivinsky needs an oxygen TRUCK to get 6F. Or a little bit of what those 'connections' provide.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Stradivinsky needs an oxygen TRUCK to get 6F. Or a little bit of what those 'connections' provide.

I agree. I envision both of us cursing at the eighth pole when he suddenly reaches his sixth gear.

NT

[Linny]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I wonder why Chad Brown didn't send Silver Timber here. . . Maybe a (bogus) distance issue.

The horse ran either last weekend or the the weekend before., at MTH.

[hockey2315]

I Know

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I wonder why Chad Brown didn't send Silver Timber here. . . Maybe a (bogus) distance issue.

I'm not positive but he may have run recently at Monmouth...

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I wonder why Chad Brown didn't send Silver Timber here. . . Maybe a (bogus) distance issue.

I think he just ran second at Monmouth.

[Dahoss]

Anyone know why Silver Timber isn't in here?

[ateamstupid]

I wish Silver Timber would stop ducking races.

[randallscott35]

I love Perfect Officer in this race.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I agree. I envision both of us cursing at the eighth pole when he suddenly reaches his sixth gear.

NT

I didn't bet the race. But what they have is real strong.