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Old 08-09-2010, 11:25 AM
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Default Derek Ryan on Quality Road: "Look him in the eye and he's counterfeit"

Musket Man, trained by Derek Ryan for owners Eric Fein and Vic Carlson, was a game third in the Whitney, despite racing close to the pace under jockey Rajiv Maragh. Ryan is considering both the Woodward and the Hawthorne Gold Cup for the Yonaguska colt as a prep the Breeders’ Cup.

“We’ll probably keep him going long now the rest of the year,” Ryan said. “He ran his race. One of these days, he’s going to get a legitimate pace and the race will set up for him. He was closer than he ever has been in any of his races. It wasn’t by design, but it wasn’t his fault. At least [Maragh] had the initiative and the brains to go on with it.”

Surprised that front-runner Haynesfield opted to lay back rather than challenge Quality Road, Ryan felt the 1-to-2 favorite showed a chink in his armor.

“If we didn’t press him, the other horse wouldn’t have won either,” Ryan said. “Look at it on paper. Quality Road’s on the inside, he’s going to go. The other horse has got to go. They should be up there. If they were going :22 and :45, I’d understand him taking back. But they’re letting them crawl.

“It just goes to show you if you press him a little bit, he’s not as good as they say he is. Just look him in the eye, and he’s counterfeit. Even with those fractions, he’s supposed to win that race yesterday. I’ll buy me a rabbit for the next time.”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...-Gold-Cup.aspx
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:27 AM
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You could say the same thing about his training career.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:27 AM
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Musket Man, trained by Derek Ryan for owners Eric Fein and Vic Carlson, was a game third in the Whitney, despite racing close to the pace under jockey Rajiv Maragh. Ryan is considering both the Woodward and the Hawthorne Gold Cup for the Yonaguska colt as a prep the Breeders’ Cup.

“We’ll probably keep him going long now the rest of the year,” Ryan said. “He ran his race. One of these days, he’s going to get a legitimate pace and the race will set up for him. He was closer than he ever has been in any of his races. It wasn’t by design, but it wasn’t his fault. At least [Maragh] had the initiative and the brains to go on with it.”

Surprised that front-runner Haynesfield opted to lay back rather than challenge Quality Road, Ryan felt the 1-to-2 favorite showed a chink in his armor.

“If we didn’t press him, the other horse wouldn’t have won either,” Ryan said. “Look at it on paper. Quality Road’s on the inside, he’s going to go. The other horse has got to go. They should be up there. If they were going :22 and :45, I’d understand him taking back. But they’re letting them crawl.

“It just goes to show you if you press him a little bit, he’s not as good as they say he is. Just look him in the eye, and he’s counterfeit. Even with those fractions, he’s supposed to win that race yesterday. I’ll buy me a rabbit for the next time.”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...-Gold-Cup.aspx


This is a total joke, Is Gales ghost writing?
What happened in the Met?
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You could say the same thing about his training career.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:29 AM
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i agree with him tho on the part about 'QR should have won with those fractions'. but it is somewhat humorous that he comes out with this trash talk considering where musket man keeps finishing....
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:36 AM
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If I'm not mistaken he hasn't had a winner this summer. 6/18 was his last so if that is the case it's obvious he's under a lot of pressure and speaking purely out of bu.tthurt.
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Old 08-09-2010, 02:07 PM
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Sounds like something that Scat guy would write...
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Old 08-09-2010, 02:50 PM
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Can pretty much say the same thing about RA

Asmussen must've soiled his boxers when he saw speed merchant QR get caught last Saturday.

He'll probably try to get them to run those NYRA steamrollers over the strip before the PE.
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:33 PM
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Musket Man, trained by Derek Ryan for owners Eric Fein and Vic Carlson, was a game third in the Whitney, despite racing close to the pace under jockey Rajiv Maragh. Ryan is considering both the Woodward and the Hawthorne Gold Cup for the Yonaguska colt as a prep the Breeders’ Cup.

“We’ll probably keep him going long now the rest of the year,” Ryan said. “He ran his race. One of these days, he’s going to get a legitimate pace and the race will set up for him. He was closer than he ever has been in any of his races. It wasn’t by design, but it wasn’t his fault. At least [Maragh] had the initiative and the brains to go on with it.”

Surprised that front-runner Haynesfield opted to lay back rather than challenge Quality Road, Ryan felt the 1-to-2 favorite showed a chink in his armor.

“If we didn’t press him, the other horse wouldn’t have won either,” Ryan said. “Look at it on paper. Quality Road’s on the inside, he’s going to go. The other horse has got to go. They should be up there. If they were going :22 and :45, I’d understand him taking back. But they’re letting them crawl.

“It just goes to show you if you press him a little bit, he’s not as good as they say he is. Just look him in the eye, and he’s counterfeit. Even with those fractions, he’s supposed to win that race yesterday. I’ll buy me a rabbit for the next time.”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...-Gold-Cup.aspx
I can't believe the guy said that. QR set suicide fractions in the Met Mile. Musket Man looked like he had him measured and right when QR saw Musket Man, QR dug down and found more and held him off. The Met Mile showed that QR has a lot of heart. To battle back after setting fractions like that was impressive.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:01 PM
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well, apparently they will face off yet again. this time both are pointing to the woodward, along with mine that bird. blame heads for the jockey club gold cup.

what's with rail trip? think i saw they were planning on possibly the ky cup classic(or maybe that was lookin at lucky). any chance he takes on either blame or quality road before the classic? also, regarding quality road...does he really go in the classic, or will they ultimately try the dirt mile?
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:07 PM
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Really? Mine That Bird will try Blame again? Hmmm...well...he will eat up money...
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:09 PM
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Really? Mine That Bird will try Blame again? Hmmm...well...he will eat up money...

no, i meant musket man will try qr again.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:40 PM
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“It just goes to show you if you press him a little bit, he’s not as good as they say he is. Just look him in the eye, and he’s counterfeit. Even with those fractions, he’s supposed to win that race yesterday. I’ll buy me a rabbit for the next time.”
There was nothing to Quality Road's inside - so nothing was looking him in his left eye... and while Musket Man was being ridden like he was a rabbit for Blame - he never got head and head to look QR in his right eye.

The only thing that looked Quality Road in the eye that entire race was that stupid braid beed that kept slapping him in the right eyeball over and over.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:45 PM
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You could say the same thing about his training career.
Yeah - the brilliant Derek Ryan is having a hell of a year. He's 23 for 180 with an ROI of $0.99

Last year he was 37 for 280 with a $1.24 ROI .. and who can forget him retiring Big Truck from racing after two god awful races only to break him down in his new role as a retired workout partner for Musket Man and Schoolyard Dreams.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:57 PM
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well, apparently they will face off yet again. this time both are pointing to the woodward, along with mine that bird. blame heads for the jockey club gold cup.

what's with rail trip? think i saw they were planning on possibly the ky cup classic(or maybe that was lookin at lucky). any chance he takes on either blame or quality road before the classic? also, regarding quality road...does he really go in the classic, or will they ultimately try the dirt mile?

He'll face one of them... I read he's either running in the Woodward or JCGC then BCC.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:00 PM
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I love Pletcher's comments:

“It was still a very good effort. He got beat a nose by spotting an extremely good horse five pounds, and I don’t think the race set up ideally the way we wanted it to. Not taking anything away from Blame, but we look forward to trying him again at equal weights.”
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:04 PM
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Yeah - I laughed at that.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:06 PM
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I love Pletcher's comments:

“It was still a very good effort. He got beat a nose by spotting an extremely good horse five pounds, and I don’t think the race set up ideally the way we wanted it to. Not taking anything away from Blame, but we look forward to trying him again at equal weights.”
That's so damn ludicrous, I don't know what to say.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:14 PM
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Here's a comment from the Daily News version of the story:

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Ryan is a crybaby. Musket Man now has had two chances to beat QR and has failed twice. MM is a very good horse, but is a cut below Blame and QR, no matter how the race unfolds. "

I wonder if this is Kipness.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:24 PM
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QR is a speed horse who left his best weapon back at the barn. He runs hard out of the gate... he has the race. Slow pace doesn't help when the stalkers and closers are hanging at their own natural pace a lot closer to the pace than usual. I hate to say a horse is ridden wrong out of respect to the jockeys, and not wanting it to sound like sour grapes. I had a good win, exacta, and tri score. When QR goes off at 1/2 and Haynesfield breaks through the gate i want to cancel my bets and put it all on QR, 1/2 looks like a gift. Good thing I sat on that one.
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