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the_fat_man · #1 08-20-2010, 10:29 PM

Any chance the events of the Whitney have Pletcher questioning his 'stuff'?

Maybe he's at the point where he's rubbing his catcher's head for 'good luck'.

mark2061mn · #2 08-20-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Any chance the events of the Whitney have Pletcher questioning his 'stuff'?

Maybe he's at the point where he's rubbing his catcher's head for 'good luck'.

Yeh, he's having an awful meet so far!! LOL

Todd A. Pletcher 70 18 15 5 $1,321,886

johnny pinwheel · #3 08-21-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mark2061mn

Yeh, he's having an awful meet so far!! LOL

Todd A. Pletcher 70 18 15 5 $1,321,886

you are right hes crushing them...but fat man has a point. another big dog may go down today. this horse is finally facing real comp. just like quality road had to. he better rub something....lol

declansharbor · #4 08-21-2010, 10:15 AM

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you are right hes crushing them...but fat man has a point. another big dog may go down today. this horse is finally facing real comp. just like quality road had to. he better rub something....lol

I not only like her chances to win today, but I don't see her losing the rest of the year, BC included. IMO, she's a SERIOUS racehorse that we can expect great things from, and obliges those who back her from here on out.

The Kansas City Royals have more say in this year's World Series than Quality Road does with how DEVIL MAY CARE performs.

Danzig · #5 08-21-2010, 10:42 AM

i think devil may care is a safe single today. some serious horses in the distaff division, but i think she's the top 3 yo. she just seems a cut above.

the_fat_man · #6 08-21-2010, 01:42 PM

Two possibilities after watching the 2nd race (the 1st race of the day on the dirt):

1) Curlinello is a monster
2) there's an inside speed bias, again

zippyneedsawin · #7 08-21-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i think devil may care is a safe single today. some serious horses in the distaff division, but i think she's the top 3 yo. she just seems a cut above.

Same here.

10 pnt move up · #8 08-21-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

I not only like her chances to win today, but I don't see her losing the rest of the year, BC included. IMO, she's a SERIOUS racehorse that we can expect great things from, and obliges those who back her from here on out.

The Kansas City Royals have more say in this year's World Series than Quality Road does with how DEVIL MAY CARE performs.

Good call

the_fat_man · #9 08-21-2010, 05:57 PM

ha ha ha

Gee, yet another FAST HORSE that gets wiped out by a horse that consistently runs AGAINST unfavorable setups.

Can't wait to hear Pletcher's excuse for this one.

You'd think the plug could've at least gotten 2nd.

declansharbor · #10 08-21-2010, 07:27 PM

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Good call

No problem. I obviously wasn't alone in liking her today (see place and show pools). The whole time prior to post I was frantically looking for your opinion of the race to possibly link up with your picking prowess for a nice, hefty exacta. Alas, your opinion was absent. Didn't really matter anyway b/c DMC ran like $hit, just chased and faded.

Seriously though, as bad as my heavily opinionated assertion seemed to look out there today, I'd much rather take a stand and lose (not a first) then to be a self proclaimed humorous, monday morning quarterback. Feel free to post your thoughts before the race is what I'm saying.

The jury is still out on the filly. Let's hope she comes back okay and just had one of those bad days that every horse encounters.

NTamm1215 · #11 08-21-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

No problem. I obviously wasn't alone in liking her today (see place and show pools). The whole time prior to post I was frantically looking for your opinion of the race to possibly link up with your picking prowess for a nice, hefty exacta. Alas, your opinion was absent. Didn't really matter anyway b/c DMC ran like $hit, just chased and faded.

Seriously though, as bad as my heavily opinionated assertion seemed to look out there today, I'd much rather take a stand and lose (not a first) then to be a self proclaimed humorous, monday morning quarterback. Feel free to post your thoughts before the race is what I'm saying.

The jury is still out on the filly. Let's hope she comes back okay and just had one of those bad days that every horse encounters.

Well said, I'd much rather be someone who looks like a complete idiot posting their opinion (see the International Festival of Racing thread for my gems today) then a douchebag who finds joy in mocking someone's poor opinion.

10 pnt move up · #12 08-21-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

No problem. I obviously wasn't alone in liking her today (see place and show pools). The whole time prior to post I was frantically looking for your opinion of the race to possibly link up with your picking prowess for a nice, hefty exacta. Alas, your opinion was absent. Didn't really matter anyway b/c DMC ran like $hit, just chased and faded.

Seriously though, as bad as my heavily opinionated assertion seemed to look out there today, I'd much rather take a stand and lose (not a first) then to be a self proclaimed humorous, monday morning quarterback. Feel free to post your thoughts before the race is what I'm saying.

The jury is still out on the filly. Let's hope she comes back okay and just had one of those bad days that every horse encounters.

I suck at handicapping, my last winning week was......well its been a long time.

I just thought your opinion was so poor it deserved special recognition. Keep it up I am sure you will find a 2/5 shot who will win for you.

RockHardTen1985 · #13 08-21-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Well said, I'd much rather be someone who looks like a complete idiot posting their opinion (see the International Festival of Racing thread for my gems today) then a douchebag who finds joy in mocking someone's poor opinion.

Hmm....

Smooth Operator · #14 08-21-2010, 10:39 PM

Ah, yet another Cali runner takes down a G1 back east

And gets the best of Pletch chalk, to boot

Sweet

Nothing like drillin' them over those synthetics...

philcski · #15 08-21-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Ah, yet another Cali runner takes down a G1 back east

And gets the best of Pletch chalk, to boot

Sweet

Nothing like drillin' them over those synthetics that thank God they're taking out so REALLY GOOD horses like Blind Luck don't have to look average over the stuff...

FTFY

...if you seriously believe the reason Blind Luck won today is because she trains over synthetic, you're even more hopeless than I thought. Blind Luck won today because she's the best 3yo filly, period.

10 pnt move up · #16 08-21-2010, 10:48 PM

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FTFY

...if you seriously believe the reason Blind Luck won today is because she trains over synthetic, you're even more hopeless than I thought. Blind Luck won today because she's the best 3yo filly, period.

insert joke about former claimers winning grade 1 races in california...........oops guess everyone has stooped down to their level, even the historic alabama.

Smooth Operator · #17 08-21-2010, 11:56 PM

Did you have that Pletch chalk on top in your exacta, phil? lol

The Indomitable DrugS · #18 08-22-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

ha ha ha

Gee, yet another FAST HORSE that gets wiped out by a horse that consistently runs AGAINST unfavorable setups.

I hate to break it to you - but Blind Luck was faster than Devil May Care on everyones figures coming into the race. 104-to-100 on Beyers and she had two negative figures on Thoro-Graph - where DMC had none. I haven't seen the Ragozin's for the race ... but knowing how they are about cutting races loose and splitting variants - I would expect that they might have Blind Luck and Harve De Grace's last race at Delaware significantly faster than any of Devil May Care's races.

philcski · #19 08-22-2010, 12:16 AM

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Did you have that Pletch chalk on top in your exacta, phil? lol

What? You are hopeless.

I just said I thought Blind Luck was easily the best 3yo filly, but that her quality had nothing to do with the rubber. Where was anything about DMC?

the_fat_man · #20 08-22-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I hate to break it to you - but Blind Luck was faster than Devil May Care on everyones figures coming into the race. 104-to-100 on Beyers and she had two negative figures on Thoro-Graph - where DMC had none. I haven't seen the Ragozin's for the race ... but knowing how they are about cutting races loose and splitting variants - I would expect that they might have Blind Luck and Harve De Grace's last race at Delaware significantly faster than any of Devil May Care's races.

Really? I don't have the actual data but I seem to recollect she got a 94 for the Oaks? And, apparently, from what Serling said on the prerace show, there was additional, significant, rain just before the Delaware race and there was a question about that figure. Is that the 104 you're referring to?

So all this hype abut DMC by pretty much everyone, was just that, huh? Go figure? Since it's now apparent that ALL thought BL was the better horse. Should I bother looking up some of your comments about DMC?

Probably not.