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Old 08-27-2010, 10:51 AM
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Default Strasburg probable Tommy John surgery

Terrible news for him and the Nats.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5502866
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:04 AM
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That is a shame. Both him and Washington.
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:16 AM
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What a shame... This kid had the potential to be great.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:09 PM
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TJ surgery isn't nearly as bad as a shoulder surgery. Chris Carpenter, Francisco Liriano, David Wells, Jimmy Key, John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, Edison Volquez, AJ Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Octavio Dotel, Josh Johnson, Kenny Rogers, Joakim Soria, Rafael Soriano, Billy Wagner, Jake Westbrook, CJ Wilson and Brian Wilson were all just as or more sucessful after having TJ surgery. The issue is it takes a long time to recover and usually isn't till 2 years after the surgery that they return to normal.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:12 PM
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TJ surgery isn't nearly as bad as a shoulder surgery. Chris Carpenter, Francisco Liriano, David Wells, Jimmy Key, John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, Edison Volquez, AJ Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Octavio Dotel, Josh Johnson, Kenny Rogers, Joakim Soria, Rafael Soriano, Billy Wagner, Jake Westbrook, CJ Wilson and Brian Wilson were all just as or more sucessful after having TJ surgery. The issue is it takes a long time to recover and usually isn't till 2 years after the surgery that they return to normal.
I agree, in the long run, he'll be glad he had it done early in his career.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:15 PM
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TJ surgery isn't nearly as bad as a shoulder surgery. Chris Carpenter, Francisco Liriano, David Wells, Jimmy Key, John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, Edison Volquez, AJ Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Octavio Dotel, Josh Johnson, Kenny Rogers, Joakim Soria, Rafael Soriano, Billy Wagner, Jake Westbrook, CJ Wilson and Brian Wilson were all just as or more sucessful after having TJ surgery. The issue is it takes a long time to recover and usually isn't till 2 years after the surgery that they return to normal.
Since he is a power pitcher the question is how much he loses off his fastball.
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:22 PM
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Since he is a power pitcher the question is how much he loses off his fastball.
After fully recovered he doesnt necessarily have to lose much. Liriano's fastball averaged 90 in 2008 after surgery but this year is back to 94 where he was before the surgery. Johnson's fastball avgs in the 94 range and on occasion he dials it up to 97.

The fastball wasn't really what made him special, it was the 91 mph slider and unhittable 83 mph curve. Those are going to be the issues once he comes back. The first year, velocity is always not where it was before because of the lost arm strength and how long it takes to recover that especially when you are gradually building it back as to not overdo it and cause set backs. The big question is can he make a full recovery like the guys listed. If he can than he will be fine and in 2013 you wont even be able to tell he ever had an issue. If he can't he will be Ben Sheets.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:52 PM
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So much for having perfect mechanics.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:02 PM
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So much for having perfect mechanics.
^^needs tommy pud surgery
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:26 PM
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now if we can just have bryce harper tear his acl or something cool like that we could hit the double

horrible luck for this team, and this city


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So much for having perfect mechanics.
Interestingly, I read a lot of people saying he didn't have perfect mechanics and several that predicted something like this would happen.

I wish guys would be brought up throwing more so they can develop the muscles more instead of throwing less to keep from over-extending them. When the guys used to throw more pitches and innings, when there weren't five-man rotations and guys regularly pitched into the seventh and eighth innings, we didn't have nearly as much of this happening.
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Just horrible for the city. (I know I'm a few days late)
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