Kagan's first Supreme Court ruling

dellinger63 · #1 10-27-2010, 03:50 PM

against an execution because of questions involving the 'safety' of the drug that will kill him? Are you kidding me? Thankfully common sense prevails despite the Supreme Court's dingbat trio and Breyer.

And look at the efficiency shown by the State of Arizona. Guess the drug turned out to be 'safe' after all.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,6859358.story

dellinger63 · #2 10-27-2010, 03:55 PM

Too funny

Jeffrey Landrigan was scheduled to be executed Tuesday night for the 1990 armed robbery and strangulation of an Arizona man. Landrigan had escaped from an Oklahoma prison in 1989, where he was already serving time for second-degree murder.

Hours after dining on a succulent on-the-house last meal of steak, fried okra, french fries, strawberry ice cream and a Dr. Pepper -- the okra was to die for -- the convicted killer, as is customary, was given the opportunity to say a few final words before departing this mortal coil via lethal injection.

Following the execution, a prison official gave an account as to what exactly it was Landrigan decided to utter as the game clock of life was ticking down to double zeros.

"Well, I'd like to say 'thank you' to my family for being here and all of my friends. Boomer Sooner."

[tosses microphone]

[dies]

Quite the fan I'd say!
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...boomer-sooner/

Antitrust32 · #3 10-27-2010, 04:06 PM

That is quite ironic. The safety of a drug meant to kill you!

Riot · #4 10-27-2010, 06:34 PM

It would be pretty ugly to have the sodium pentothal not work, while the paralytic agent worked just fine and you suffocated to death while concious.

SOREHOOF · #5 10-27-2010, 06:36 PM

This makes it to the Supreme Court? Tells you all you need to know about the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. I hope this guy didn't get an infection from his injection!

Riot · #6 10-27-2010, 06:37 PM

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This makes it to the Supreme Court? Tells you all you need to know about the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. I hope this guy didn't get an infection from his injection!

It's pretty typical of all lawyers trying to keep their death row client alive, don't you think? They use anything, there are always stays, the stays advance quickly, they are overturned, the criminal is put to death. The stays nearly always advance out of the circuits to the Supremes because they are death penalty issues (who would want different Circuit courts establishing precedent)

SOREHOOF · #7 10-27-2010, 06:58 PM

They don't get to the Supreme Court very often for flimsy arguments like this. If they are against the Death Penalty PERIOD, they should just be honest about it and not just try to stop every single execution that they can for any reason imaginable. And I do mean imaginable. I would love to see the dissenting opinion.

Riot · #8 10-27-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

They don't get to the Supreme Court very often for flimsy arguments like this. If they are against the Death Penalty PERIOD, they should just be honest about it and not just try to stop every single execution that they can for any reason imaginable. And I do mean imaginable. I would love to see the dissenting opinion.

Don't they publish them eventually?

It was probably the first "foreign drug" challenge ever received (why it made it all the way up). It's well known that foreign drugs (elderly getting their heart meds cheaply from Canada, Mexico for example) can have major efficacy problems compared to US stuff (fake drugs, wrong ingredient, weak, etc)

Because they don't have that pesky government FDA interference like we have in testing and manufacturing

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 10-27-2010, 07:26 PM

Where's that Dr. Kevorkian?

Nascar1966 · #10 10-27-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

It would be pretty ugly to have the sodium pentothal not work, while the paralytic agent worked just fine and you suffocated to death while concious.

That would serve the criminal right. The criminal didnt care about killing a person, why should they be given any pity.

dellinger63 · #11 10-27-2010, 10:01 PM

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It would be pretty ugly to have the sodium pentothal not work, while the paralytic agent worked just fine and you suffocated to death while concious.

Especially since this guy was a saint, killing only 2 people (that we know of) and living on the tax payers dime, on death row for 20 years.

Go back to supporting your Muslim men!

Riot · #12 10-27-2010, 10:12 PM

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That would serve the criminal right. The criminal didnt care about killing a person, why should they be given any pity.

I agree. But it would be terribly cruel. Enough anesthesiologists have done that over the years to have good descriptions from patients of how awful it is.

Riot · #13 10-27-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Especially since this guy was a saint, killing only 2 people (that we know of) and living on the tax payers dime, on death row for 20 years.

Go back to supporting your Muslim men!

Go back to hating your Muslim men! Because, you know, hating a religion publicly makes you really cool. Dissing people that don't hate a religion as you do makes you really cool, too, huh? And death row criminals makes you think of .... Muslims?

Funny, I'm in favor of the death penalty, but "taxpayers' dime" doesn't even figure into it. Strange you weigh your tax money and the victim's lives equally.

dellinger63 · #14 10-27-2010, 10:21 PM

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I agree. But it would be terribly cruel. Enough anesthesiologists have done that over the years to have good descriptions from patients of how awful it is.

How would you rate that against say a muslim group cutting off the head of a Jewish reporter while the anesthesia was a black hood and a 20-minute diatribe.

Riot · #15 10-27-2010, 10:25 PM

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How would rate against say a muslim group cutting off the head of a Jewish reporter while the anesthesia was a black hood and a 20-minute diatribe.

Because that has so much to do with our criminal justice system? What a completely stupid comparison.

BTW, I found it horrific. Pretty much like I found 9-11.

But not enough to blame all the Muslims in the world for the actions of those terrorists. I'll leave that to you.

dellinger63 · #16 10-27-2010, 10:30 PM

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Funny, I'm in favor of the death penalty, .

Can we at least agree this went well despite the concerns?

And 20 years was too long!

SCUDSBROTHER · #17 10-27-2010, 11:30 PM

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Because that has so much to do with our criminal justice system? What a completely stupid comparison.

BTW, I found it horrific. Pretty much like I found 9-11.

But not enough to blame all the Muslims in the world for the actions of those terrorists. I'll leave that to you.

Dell, your group gets a free pass if the killing is done by a very few (while quietly supported by the great majority of the rest of the group.) Remember this Victory Center IMAM saying America was partly to blame for 9/11? They're giving him a free pass for saying we kind of deserved it. These people will stick up for any puke. They all believe a guy (who cut the heads off hundreds of men that surrendered) is a messenger of God. She ignores that (each time it's brought up.) She does the highly popular Bible U2 Shuffle. Of course, Jesus wasn't a butcher (like their prophet was,) but it doesn't stop her from doing the Bible U2. Somehow it's o.k. to dislike other gang members, but not these gang members. Believe me, this is no better than any other gang that someone starts up by using violence to instill fear in people.

dellinger63 · #18 10-27-2010, 11:45 PM

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Dell, your group gets a free pass if the killing is done by a very few (while quietly supported by the great majority of the rest of the group.) Remember this Victory Center IMAM saying America was partly to blame for 9/11? They're giving him a free pass for saying we kind of deserved it. These people will stick up for any puke. They all believe a guy (who cut the heads off hundreds of men that surrendered) is a messenger of God. She ignores that (each time it's brought up.) She does the highly popular Bible U2 Shuffle. Of course, Jesus wasn't a butcher (like their prophet was,) but it doesn't stop her from doing the Bible U2.

but she knows her savior, BO said the Muslim call to prayer was one of the prettiest (sic) may have said best things he's heard. And the muslims created everything from great musical instruments and the pen to the internet.

Riot · #19 10-27-2010, 11:55 PM

Hate to disappoint the Muslim haters, but ad hominem attacks neither logically justify your silly beliefs, nor help recruitment to your cause.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 10-28-2010, 12:07 AM

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Hate to disappoint the Muslim haters, but ad hominem attacks neither logically justify your silly beliefs, nor help recruitment to your cause.

I hate all gangs started up by a killer thug. Not just the Muslim one. There is nothing silly or funny about Islam. It's a gang started by a killer thug, and members are threatened if they ever try to leave the gang. Non-members of the Gang can not serve in the military of the country controlled by the gang. When the gang is in full control, their killer thug leader said to kill (or heavily tax) non members. You, like so many, make the mistake of calling this a religion. It is a gang, and comes with all the violence that any other gang has. It's a gang that is made solid by their common hatred of individual freedom. This is why Geedubbya's lil dream didn't take place. He could not understand why they didn't embrace their own freedom. What did they all say they thirsted for? Not freedom. Nope....Control. They wanted their own thugs in to control the country.