Sudan says get the f out

Sudan's Arab government has told UN peace keeping forces to pack up. We will now witness extermination of the non-Arab people in Dafur. This is how some countries deal with the UN. They just say we are coming in to slaughter everyone, leave.

The UN planned on sending a larger force but not now. They will of course leave and many will die. This is how many Arab governments work. It has been done time and time again. And Israel is picked on for trying to cooperate. BTW, a UN peacekeeping site in Lebanon was used by Hezbollah to fire from. The UN force there said they could do nothing about it. This news comes out now, but we all knew what was happening 4 weeks ago.

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Sudan's Arab government has told UN peace keeping forces to pack up. We will now witness extermination of the non-Arab people in Dafur. This is how some countries deal with the UN. They just say we are coming in to slaughter everyone, leave.

The UN planned on sending a larger force but not now. They will of course leave and many will die. This is how many Arab governments work. It has been done time and time again. And Israel is picked on for trying to cooperate. BTW, a UN peacekeeping site in Lebanon was used by Hezbollah to fire from. The UN force there said they could do nothing about it. This news comes out now, but we all knew what was happening 4 weeks ago.

Pgardn,
I sense you outrage.
Not only do Arab governments work this way, but also others....many.
Genocide has a very long history, and it isn't limited to Dafur.
Recent history includes Cambodia, Croatia, Uganda, Rwanda..I could go on for quite a while...far too many recently.
Before then, Germany, Turkey, Russia, China...add more of yours...there are far too many.
I even thought of including the United States, especially for the genocide that was committed against Native Americans.
I am equally outraged.
I sense that within the tragedy of your words there remain startling questions. Is this what the "human condition" should really be about?
Is there more that mankind can offer than hatred and all of the results wherein it is expressed?
There must be something better. I wish I knew how to help others find it.
I know in my heart that it exists.
DTS

Lately a lot of the mass genocides have to do with whether you are Muslim or not. In Bosnia we aided the Muslims when they were being slaughtered by Serbs. We bombed the crud out of Serbia. We bombed them into submission cause the Euros could not get it done on the ground.

And now of course we are enemies of Islam. Has anyone heard one word out of an Arab government for our help in Bosnia? You think we bomb the crud out of the Sudanese? You think?

Hell no. And part of it is because this would further exacerbate our situation with other Arab governments who really dont care as long as its not their sect of Islam that is not being slaughtered. But Ill tell you this. The Sudanese troops now mass for the destruction. We could severely diminish their ability, thru the air because they are concentrated.
Just like we could have done in WWII early on. We knew Jews were being slaughtered.

So good we bomb the crap out of Serbs. Bad to bomb others. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Lately a lot of the mass genocides have to do with whether you are Muslim or not. In Bosnia we aided the Muslims when they were being slaughtered by Serbs. We bombed the crud out of Serbia. We bombed them into submission cause the Euros could not get it done on the ground.

And now of course we are enemies of Islam. Has anyone heard one word out of an Arab government for our help in Bosnia? You think we bomb the crud out of the Sudanese? You think?

Hell no. And part of it is because this would further exacerbate our situation with other Arab governments who really dont care as long as its not their sect of Islam that is not being slaughtered. But Ill tell you this. The Sudanese troops now mass for the destruction. We could severely diminish their ability, thru the air because they are concentrated.
Just like we could have done in WWII early on. We knew Jews were being slaughtered.

So good we bomb the crap out of Serbs. Bad to bomb others. Interesting.

Pgardn,
If you think that answers the questions I asked, it doesn't.
Bomb the crap out of the Serbs? Others?
Not interesting.
It's been tried. London, Dresden, Hiroshima, Hanoi.
It didn't work.
Bombs, despite the best efforts to improve them by the most creative scientists and engineers, have not brought the intended results.
May I suggest that you read some of the later writings of Einstein? Look for his writings while at Princeton.
There needs to be better thinking than bombing the crap out of people.
DTS

I think it did work in Dresden and Hiroshima. It depends on what your definition of work means. It put a big stamp on the end of horrible confrontations that may have festered. It completely changed the outlook of two of the most respected countries in the world in Germany and Japan. I dont like violence either, and I hate to make silly statements but sometimes they are apt.

If you hit a bully in the nose and kick him in the nuts... Well it works in the schoolyard. Or it used to. Its just a problem figuring out who the bully is and how to kick him.