Derby Trail Next Start-Likely/Possible

Kasept · #1 03-29-2011, 07:16 AM

KENTUCKY DERBY

1 Uncle Mo (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
2 Dialed In (Nick Zito/Julien Leparoux)
3 Archarcharch (William 'Jinks' Fires/Jon Court)
4 Comma to the Top (Peter Miller/Pat Valenzuela)
5 Pants On Fire (Kelly Breen/Rosie Napravnik)
6 Midnight Interlude (Bob Baffert/Victor Espinoza)
7 Soldat (Kiaran McLaughlin/Alan Garcia)
8 Brilliant Speed (Tom Albertrani/Joel Rosario)
9 Master of Hounds (Aidan O'Brien/Garrett Gomez)
10 Nehro (Steve Asmussen/Corey Nakatani)

11 Twice the Appeal (Jeff Bonde/Calvin Borel)
12 Mucho Macho Man (Kathy Ritvo/Rajiv Maragh)
13 Decisive Moment (Juan Arias/Kerwin Clark)
14 Animal Kingdom (H. Graham Motion/Robby Albarado)
15 Stay Thirsty (Todd Pletcher/Ramon Dominguez)
16 Santiva (Eddie Kenneally/Shaun Bridgmohan)
17 Watch Me Go (Kathleen O'Connell/Rafael Bejarano)
18 Shackleford (Dale Romans/Jesus Castanon)
19 Twinspired (Mike Maker/Mike Smith)
20 Derby Kitten (Mike Maker)
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21 Sway Away (Jeff Bonde)

PREAKNESS

Dance City
Astrology
Flashpoint
Derby Kitten

BELMONT STAKES

VOL JACK · #2 03-29-2011, 08:46 AM

Joe's Blazing Aaron is possible for the Bluegrass.
He is a new addition to the Mike Maker barn!

randallscott35 · #3 03-29-2011, 08:46 AM

I love the FL Derby this weekend. Lots of ways to play

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 03-29-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

BLUE GRASS

Crimson China
Santiva
Willcox Inn
Monzon
Joe's Blazing Aaron

Wow - this one is shaping up to be a Dandy!

Why is the Blue Grass Stakes still a Grade 1?

justindew · #5 03-29-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Wow - this one is shaping up to be a Dandy!

Why is the Blue Grass Stakes still a Grade 1?

I remember thinking synthetic surfaces would be good for racing. I'll go ahead and file that one under "wrong".

(If some of you could resist the temptation to post the obvious here, that would be great. No one really gets points for hitting softballs out of the park.)

VOL JACK · #6 03-29-2011, 09:40 AM

Why are any of them Grade 1's?
They are all preps for the Kentucky Derby, the real Grade 1.

Thunder Gulch · #7 03-29-2011, 09:41 AM

Florida Derby is actually the first one I'm interested in so far. Several horses in that one that could move up.

justindew · #8 03-29-2011, 09:43 AM

The thing about the Blue Grass is that it's unlikley to tell us anything about Santiva. If he goes to the Derby, he'll be a complete wild card.

Scav · #9 03-29-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

The thing about the Blue Grass is that it's unlikley to tell us anything about Santiva. If he goes to the Derby, he'll be a complete wild card.

More importantly, how amazing is Tom Walters, he always has one horse in training, and they are almost always a real good horse. There was an article about him somewhere that was good.

blackthroatedwind · #10 03-29-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

The thing about the Blue Grass is that it's unlikley to tell us anything about Santiva. If he goes to the Derby, he'll be a complete wild card.

He's not even close to a " complete wild card. "

He's slow.

justindew · #11 03-29-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's not even close to a " complete wild card. "

He's slow.

I keep forgetting that slow horses are banned by law from hitting the board in the Derby.

By the way, this "slow" horse improved his top Beyer by 13 points in his sophomore debut, and has a graded two-turn win over the CD surface.

randallscott35 · #12 03-29-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

I keep forgetting that slow horses are banned by law from hitting the board in the Derby.

By the way, this "slow" horse improved his top Beyer by 13 points in his sophomore debut, and has a graded two-turn win over the CD surface.

Slow horses win Classics all the time. See Drosselslug

Indian Charlie · #13 03-29-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Slow horses win Classics all the time. See Drosselslug

Non sequitur.

The whole field was slow.

randallscott35 · #14 03-29-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Non sequitur.

The whole field was slow.

Umm, Super Saver anyone

Indian Charlie · #15 03-29-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Umm, Super Saver anyone

What about him?

You mean another slow horse beating another slow field, over the only track in the world he could have possibly won the race over, with a perfect trip?

randallscott35 · #16 03-29-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What about him?

You mean another slow horse beating another slow field, over the only track in the world he could have possibly won the race over, with a perfect trip?

Giacomo...should I continue. Just shut the hell up

blackthroatedwind · #17 03-29-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

I keep forgetting that slow horses are banned by law from hitting the board in the Derby.

By the way, this "slow" horse improved his top Beyer by 13 points in his sophomore debut, and has a graded two-turn win over the CD surface.

You only continue to prove my point. My argument was with you calling him a " complete wild card " and, as you have further shown, he is anything but.

I don't give a sh it what he does, or where he does it, but he is far from a " complete wild card. " That's all.

Scav · #18 03-29-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's not even close to a " complete wild card. "

He's slow.

I'll disagree with you completely on this. IMO he was slow as a 2 year old, but his return race was very good while wide the entire race and they are using the Blue Grass as a final tightner, ala Street Sense and he will run a big race in the Derby. 6pt top (TG) in his return race signals a very healthy horse (maybe almost too healthy) and if he pairs that in the Blue Grass he will be a great bet in the Derby.

All that and because I keyed him up and down in Future pool exactas.

justindew · #19 03-29-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You only continue to prove my point. My argument was with you calling him a " complete wild card " and, as you have further shown, he is anything but.

I don't give a sh it what he does, or where he does it, but he is far from a " complete wild card. " That's all.

Well, considering the title of this thread is "Derby Trail Next Start-Likely/Possible", what he does and where he does it are relevant to the discussion.

And feel free to define "wild card". My point is that he is going to the Derby off of a synthetic prep, which will very probably mask any progress he has continued to make since turning three. Maybe he hasn't progressed any more than he showed in his last start. Or maybe he has. Who knows? I don't. So I'm calling him a wild card. Sorry. A COMPLETE wild card.

randallscott35 · #20 03-29-2011, 11:24 AM

The Packers were a Wild Card this year. So there.