Government shutdown in 1 1/2 hours

[Riot]

Yes? No?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes? No?

Hope and Change!

[geeker2]

Obama and Reid blinked

another win for the GOP and the Tea Party

on to 2012

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Obama and Reid blinked

another win for the GOP and the Tea Party

on to 2012

Sure. That's why the Tea Party is going ballistic on the right wing blogs - they want Boehner's head for "giving away the store". All the Republican riders are gone - eliminated.

That's why Boehner didn't say crap at his "announcement press conference" this past hour. He just high-tailed it out of there and left the press hanging.

[geeker2]

Posser and now this win by the bad guys?

Riot you must be on suicide watch

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Posser and now this win by the bad guys?

Riot you must be on suicide watch

If you want to call those wins, please, by all means continue to think that I do think you are the only Tea Party person in the country who thinks Boehner did a good job. Then go read Ezra Kleins article in the Washington Post, and get back to me about Boehner "winning".

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

If you want to call those wins, please, by all means continue to think that I do think you are the only Tea Party person in the country who thinks Boehner did a good job. Then go read Ezra Kleins article in the Washington Post, and get back to me about Boehner "winning".

A win is a win..I don't see the DEM's all excited about the outcome.

[Danzig]

the ap headline is something along the lines of 'first round of budget to gop' or something to that effect. i'd post a link, but this pos computer won't load that page.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by geeker2

A win is a win..I don't see the DEM's all excited about the outcome.

Progressives aren't happy. Sure as hell doesn't feel like a "win" to me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Progressives aren't happy. Sure as hell doesn't feel like a "win" to me.

Nobody should be excited about the outcome, either conservative or progressive or in-between. It was absurd kabuki theatre posturing that doesn't do much towards addressing the deficit in the overall scheme of things. It was a huge waste of our time and our money. All it did was suddenly take away money, for the last couple months of this year, for some programs. Tenths of tenths of percentages. The GOP didn't get any of the conservative morality dictate riders they wanted (none), they got less than half the cuts they wanted, and plenty of good programs now will come up short, out of nowhere, this year (for the Dems). And the net-net for the overall budget this year is only a couple billion down, when figuring in the increases. The "save 38 billion" isn't net. It's just a line-item. PR. Not bottom line.

It was alot of effing superficial theatrics that didn't do squat to address our income, or the budget deficit. We've done nothing but give away our income over the past 10 years, as if it didn't matter, with no thought to the future, and made ourselves broke.

The first honest politican to say, "Let's rescind the damn expensive unfunded Bush tax cuts, the thing that caused a huge portion of our deficit, and cut the deficit in half without doing anything else within 10 years" wins my vote.

[Danzig]

an honest politician. lol
reminds of me the story of diogenes with his lamp, walking about in daytime with it lit. when people asked why, he'd reply he was searching for an honest man. i've never read that he found one. i don't imagine the search for an honest politician would end any better.

honest politician. that's got to qualify as an oxymoron.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Progressives aren't happy. Sure as hell doesn't feel like a "win" to me.

we are still headed towards your beloved cliff

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

we are still headed towards your beloved cliff

WINNER