Wisconsin Supreme Court recount - Dem. Kloppenberg leads Repub. Prosser

[Riot]

Waukesha - the county that magically came up with 7,000 + votes for Prosser a couple of days after the election - is still being counted.

Justice David Prosser held a 7,316-vote lead over challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg before a statewide recount began April 27.

The state Government Accountability Board is providing daily updates on the recount's progress by precinct. Here's a look at where the recount stood as of Tuesday afternoon:

_Precincts recounted and given a preliminary review by board staff: 3,502 of 3,602

_Prosser's current total: 714,097

_Kloppenburg's current total: 730,676

_The board reported that counties have recounted 1,446,495 votes, which is approximately 97 percent of the total votes cast. Waukesha County is the last county still counting votes.

http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20110517/WDH0101/110517014/Kloppenburg-vote-edges-Prosser-ongoing-statewide-recount?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|FRONTPAGE

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Waukesha - the county that magically came up with 7,000 + votes for Prosser a couple of days after the election - is still being counted.

Prosser shuold hire the same people who stole the election from Norm Coleman and gave it to Senator Stuart Smalley.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Waukesha - the county that magically came up with 7,000 + votes for Prosser a couple of days after the election - is still being counted.

Do you know that Waukesha county is highly republican? It is one of the wealthiest counties per capita in the US. Also, there was no magic votes. There was simply an idiot who made a mistake. Wanna place a wager that Prosser still wins by over 5000+ votes

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Do you know that Waukesha county is highly republican? It is one of the wealthiest counties per capita in the US. Also, there was no magic votes. There was simply an idiot who made a mistake. Wanna place a wager that Prosser still wins by over 5000+ votes

Riot is too much of a Demotard to realize that. I wouldn't make a wager with Riot. Riot will claim that a wager was never made even if a wager was made.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Do you know that Waukesha county is highly republican? It is one of the wealthiest counties per capita in the US. Also, there was no magic votes. There was simply an idiot who made a mistake. Wanna place a wager that Prosser still wins by over 5000+ votes

Yes, very aware Waukesha is highly GOP. You might also recall I thought the 7000 votes nothing more than a stupid mistake (rather than vote fraud).
Although Waukesha has been astoundingly incompetent in the screwups so far with the way they do things (wrong tags on bags, unsealed bags of votes, etc) But that's one of the reasons Kloppenberg wanted the recount, too - so the public could have an idea of how their elections are handled, and institute needed changes (so 7000 votes won't appear magically 48 hours after an election, when the clerk knew they existed but still had the Dem reps sign off on the election before bringing them forth)

Of course, Prosser could indeed win, if he wins over 80% of the vote or so in Waukesha. We'll see.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

How filthy is this state right now? How can the county in dispute go last in the recount? Good God. Your gunna tell them what the statewide count is presently? Children, please!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

How filthy is this state right now?

You be the judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxvh0deKTWI

Not ocean front and cold in the winter but comfy enough for me.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You be the judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxvh0deKTWI

Not ocean front and cold in the winter but comfy enough for me.

Mozart fits that state. Wagner, even more so.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, very aware Waukesha is highly GOP. You might also recall I thought the 7000 votes nothing more than a stupid mistake (rather than vote fraud).
Although Waukesha has been astoundingly incompetent in the screwups so far with the way they do things (wrong tags on bags, unsealed bags of votes, etc) But that's one of the reasons Kloppenberg wanted the recount, too - so the public could have an idea of how their elections are handled, and institute needed changes (so 7000 votes won't appear magically 48 hours after an election, when the clerk knew they existed but still had the Dem reps sign off on the election before bringing them forth)

Of course, Prosser could indeed win, if he wins over 80% of the vote or so in Waukesha. We'll see.

Over, good guys win by 7,006.

so with a million and half votes the recount differed by 310. She goes out the same she came in wanting to do. Spending the public's money. Quarter million dollars for 300 votes.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...won-election-/

[Riot]

If you think a "good guy" is a man who is supposed to be impartial, but has publicly said he will not be, he'll be an overtly activist judge.

Naw - not a good thing at all in my book for a judge.

The good thing that did come out of this is full exposure of the marked deficiencies some counties in Wisconsin (Waukesha, anyone?) as completely incompetent electorially (unsealed bags, switched tags, wrong paperwork, lost and misplaced votes, etc). So at least the elections will be better run in the future.

As someone who always made fun of the Democratic machine in Chicago, Dell, I'm sure you're happy when the same type of nonsense is uncovered and fixed in Wisconsin

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

As someone who always made fun of the Democratic machine in Chicago, Dell, I'm sure you're happy when the same type of nonsense is uncovered and fixed in Wisconsin

I said the idiot responsible should be fired and she's republican. Never heard a peep about her dismissal as rep or dem she's a fed and untouchable, probably close to her retirement and beni's for life on the taxpayer. All for being a f'up.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I said the idiot responsible should be fired and she's republican. Never heard a peep about her dismissal as rep or dem she's a fed and untouchable, probably close to her retirement and beni's for life on the taxpayer. All for being a f'up.

No. She's the locally elected County Clerk.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. She's the locally elected County Clerk.

that's good news let's see if she even has the nads to run again. If she does I assure you repubs will not re-elect her.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

that's good news let's see if she even has the nads to run again. If she does I assure you repubs will not re-elect her.

Complete nonsense. Repubs already have elected her, as a Prosser-faithful Repub who escaped felony ethics charges on a state level by turning states evidence against her fellow Repubs who went to jail. She used to work for Prosser. The county clerk position is her paid political reward for being a good party hack.

And you call a publicly-admitted-politically-activist-admitted-non-impartial state supreme court judge a "good guy"?

Our country is screwed.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Complete nonsense. Repubs already have elected her, as a Prosser-faithful Repub who escaped felony ethics charges on a state level by turning states evidence against her fellow Repubs who went to jail. She used to work for Prosser. The county clerk position is her paid political reward for being a good party hack.

And you call a publicly-admitted-politically-activist-admitted-non-impartial state supreme court judge a "good guy"?

Our country is screwed.

Have you even looked at the facts and the careers of these 2 judges? Not what you read in the paper or online. The actual facts. How they conducted their campaigns and handled themselves? If you have you would undoubtly agree that the good guy and most deserving candidate did win. A supreme court judge candidate who acted in the way that Kloppenberg did is unreal.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Have you even looked at the facts and the careers of these 2 judges? Not what you read in the paper or online. The actual facts. How they conducted their campaigns and handled themselves? If you have you would undoubtly agree that the good guy and most deserving candidate did win. A supreme court judge candidate who acted in the way that Kloppenberg did is unreal.

No, the "deserving candidate" did not win, IMO. The political hack scumbag won. The "impartial judge" who publicly said he'll support the Republican governor's agenda. But that's why we hold elections. I think the proof of how well Kloppenberg handled herself lays in the fact that this was supposed to be a clear walkover election for Prosser, and he barely hung on to win in a recount.

On to the recall elections.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, the "deserving candidate" did not win, IMO. The political hack scumbag won. The "impartial judge" who publicly said he'll support the Republican governor's agenda. But that's why we hold elections. I think the proof of how well Kloppenberg handled herself lays in the fact that this was supposed to be a clear walkover election for Prosser, and he barely hung on to win in a recount.

On to the recall elections.

I guess the idea of a supreme court judge declaring victory and passing judgment with only a few hundred vote difference originally is how our judges should handle themselves. Also we should take everything we read in the newspapers and online as correct as compared to the actual voting record or career of the judge

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

I guess the idea of a supreme court judge declaring victory and passing judgment with only a few hundred vote difference originally is how our judges should handle themselves.

Well, yes. Absolutely. When it is stated officially that all the votes are in and counted, precinct by precinct, and that there is a 200 vote victory, and it's you, Kloppenberg rightly came out - not prematurely, she waited until the official vote count was completed - and said looks like we won, and waited to see if Prosser was going to file a recount petition - which they were angry and foaming at the mouth to do, and you know it.

What in the world is wrong with Kloppenberg coming out at the end of a long count and saying "looks like we won by 200 votes"? Then acknowledging the election isn't yet certified, knowing that would prompt the auto recount. Seriously? You think that was bad behaviour? Seriously?

Then, three days later, Waukesha had the Dem election judges certify the results for that county in the am, that afternoon the right wing blogs started talking about a 7,000 count bag of uncounted votes found [how did right wing websites know about this before election officials?], and there was a 5:00pm press conference where the Waukesha county clerk said she found those votes had magically been deleted from her computer, and were not in the totals counted. And she knew about it before that morning, when she had the Dems sign off on the election results of her county.

Yes, I know exactly who the classier candidate - and party - was in this election.

The Republicans are on their way out in Wisconsin. They will no longer hold the statehouse majority, and they know it - they are panicking, rushing through every bill giving Walker more and more power they can think of. Walker will be recalled, too. The demonstrations and activism are still strong in Wisconsin. The GOP came into power and did things they never mentioned, and the citizens are pissed. Walker can't go anywhere without demonstrators every single day. Walker is stuck with his union busting bill making it's way through the courts, because he doesn't have the votes now to retake it and simply pass it the normal way (without secret meetings, saying it's not a budget bill so they don't need a certain vote count, etc).

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, yes. Absolutely. When it is stated officially that all the votes are in and counted, precinct by precinct, and that there is a 200 vote victory, and it's you, Kloppenberg rightly came out - not prematurely, she waited until the official vote count was completed - and said looks like we won, and waited to see if Prosser was going to file a recount petition - which they were angry and foaming at the mouth to do, and you know it.

What in the world is wrong with Kloppenberg coming out at the end of a long count and saying "looks like we won by 200 votes"? Then acknowledging the election isn't yet certified, knowing that would prompt the auto recount. Seriously? You think that was bad behaviour? Seriously?

Then, three days later, Waukesha had the Dem election judges certify the results for that county in the am, that afternoon the right wing blogs started talking about a 7,000 count bag of uncounted votes found, and there was a 5:00pm press conference where the Waukesha county clerk said she found those votes had magically been deleted from her computer, and were not in the totals counted. And she knew about it before that morning, when she had the Dems sign off on the election results of her county.

Yes, I know exactly who the classier candidate - and party - was in this election.

The Republicans are on their way out in Wisconsin. Walker is stuck with his union busting bill making it's way through the courts, because he doesn't have the votes now to retake it and simply pass it the normal way (without secret meetings, saying it's not a budget bill so they don't need a certain vote count, etc).

Again you say that the votes magicaly appeared. Was it magic or were not all votes properly counted? As someone who stands against voter id because it disenfranchises voters I would think you would want every vote counted.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Again you say that the votes magicaly appeared. Was it magic or were not all votes properly counted? As someone who stands against voter id because it disenfranchises voters I would think you would want every vote counted.

Yes, the votes magically appeared. Do I think she simply screwed up? Most likely. I have no way of knowing if she deliberately held them back to see if they would be needed, or not. Those bags, during the recount, were found to have incorrect sealing information, wrong tags, wrong initials, etc.

Waukesha election results and recount procedure were so screwed up, they were the only county that couldn't get their recount completed in time, and had to get official permission from the judge for an extension.

Do I think she created those votes out of thin air? No. I think they are real votes.

Did she know about those votes being "magically deleted" (which plenty of computer whizes familiar with the program she uses says is impossible, it's auto-saved) yet have the Dems certify the election results anyway? Yes, she did, and she admitted it.


Don't forget this is the woman who almost went to prison for her political - elected official activity - she turned states evidence and got let off in favor of sending her friends to prison.

She has a history of illegal activity associated with her government service.

She's a pure, partisan Republican political hack who used to work for Prosser.

The current multi-state attempt at changing current voter ID requirements, when there is no "voter fraud", is simply an attempt to disinfranchise voters who tend to vote Democratic, and everyone knows it. It was put out to the Republican Governors at the last RGA meeting (financed by the Koch Brothers) as something they wanted the GOP govs to do before the 2012 election. That was covered by the press at the time. It's like re-districting - it's a political ploy to try and win elections.