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Old 07-20-2011, 05:19 PM
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Default 7/23 (SAR): Coaching Club American Oaks (G1)

10th (5:45) TVG Coaching Club American Oaks (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Buster's Ready Velazquez J R 121 L
2 Plum Pretty Garcia M 121 L
3 Joyful Victory Dominguez R A 121 L
4 Royal Delta Lezcano J 121 L
5 It's Tricky Castro E 121 L
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:21 PM
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Small, but terrific field.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:23 PM
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Small, but terrific field.
Pretty much the field we were supposed to get for the Mother Goose.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:56 PM
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Definitely some talented fillies lined up, but hard to endorse as a featured race on national TV (NBC 5pm-6pm).
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:23 PM
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Definitely some talented fillies lined up, but hard to endorse as a featured race on national TV (NBC 5pm-6pm).
I don't know why that is. It's got the Oaks and Black-Eyed Susan winners, both of which got national TV exposure in the spring. Would a matchup of Tizway and Morning Line really jazz up the audience more?
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:36 PM
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I really like the moving of this race to Saratoga. Small but select field... Hopefully they finish in a photo and they all go the Alabama.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:39 PM
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I don't know why that is. It's got the Oaks and Black-Eyed Susan winners, both of which got national TV exposure in the spring. Would a matchup of Tizway and Morning Line really jazz up the audience more?
I was mostly referring to the 5 horse field. No matter how you slice it, it's a tough race to get excited about from a wagering point of view. At least it's part of the late PK4.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:19 AM
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In that leg of the pk4, it looks like an "all" spot...
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:13 AM
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I was mostly referring to the 5 horse field. No matter how you slice it, it's a tough race to get excited about from a wagering point of view. At least it's part of the late PK4.

Arguably the most famous race in modern US history was a 5 horse event.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:25 AM
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Arguably the most famous race in modern US history was a 5 horse event.
2006 Pimlico Special, I presume? Er...
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:27 AM
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Arguably the most famous race in modern US history was a 5 horse event.
5 horses in the 73 belmont??
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:32 AM
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I was mostly referring to the 5 horse field. No matter how you slice it, it's a tough race to get excited about from a wagering point of view. At least it's part of the late PK4.
I don't know Gus, there's a reasonably good chance these 5 horses are between 2-1 and 6-1. Not the greatest betting race on the card by any means, but still not that bad.
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Facts about field size and other interesting things that most people dont know

The average field size in 2010 was virtually the same as in 1995 (8.19 versus 8.20)

The average field size in 1965 was 8.59 and in 2009 was 8.24, hardly a major difference.

The average starts per horse per year has been in decline since 1960 and the rate of decline was greater from 1960 to 1980 than from 1990 to now

That racing has been steadily contracting since 1990 when there was 79971 races run to 2010's 50918

That there were 2397 registered TB's exported in 2003 and 3263 last year

Funny when you read stuff about the business that all these facts somehow are never brought up

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Old 07-21-2011, 11:39 AM
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5 horses in the 73 belmont??
yup

The Preakness was 6 that year, the Woodward 5 and the Whitney 5 as well
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:04 PM
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yup

The Preakness was 6 that year, the Woodward 5 and the Whitney 5 as well
California has it all figured out, 5 horse fields are the way to go.

By the way, those were FOAKLEYs I was wearing on that facebook pic. LOL
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:08 PM
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California has it all figured out, 5 horse fields are the way to go.

By the way, those were FOAKLEYs I was wearing on that facebook pic. LOL
They still looked sharp!
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:24 PM
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Facts about field size and other interesting things that most people dont know

The average field size in 2010 was virtually the same as in 1995 (8.19 versus 8.20)

The average field size in 1965 was 8.59 and in 2009 was 8.24, hardly a major difference.

The average starts per horse per year has been in decline since 1960 and the rate of decline was greater from 1960 to 1980 than from 1990 to now

That racing has been steadily contracting since 1990 when there was 79971 races run to 2010's 50918

That there were 2397 registered TB's exported in 2003 and 3263 last year

Funny when you read stuff about the business that all these facts somehow are never brought up
These are great stats, Cannon - where did you get them?
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:07 PM
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These are great stats, Cannon - where did you get them?
Jockey club fact book

It is online
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Old 07-23-2011, 05:37 PM
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Going with Plum Pretty over Royal Delta.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:19 PM
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Before the race I turned to my brother and said to him they should check Busters Ready's lip tattoo b/c tht did NOT look like the same horse tht barreled home in her last two. Aesthetically just didnt look like she did in the past.
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