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12-19-2011, 06:35 AM
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Weekend Stakes Beyers
HOL CashCall Futurity (G1): Liaison 90 (Indian Charlie) B. Baffert/R. Bejarano
HOL On Trust H: Mensa Heat 97 (Unusual Heat) T. West/J. Talamo GP Dania Beach S: Summer Front 86 (War Front) C. Clement/R. Dominguez GP Harlan's Holiday S: Trickmeister 96 (Proud Citizen) R. Dutrow/J. Castellano GP OC/ALW (3+): Adios Charlie 96 (Indian Charlie) Hough/Castellano GP OC/ALW (2yo): Algorithms 91 (Bernardini) Pletcher/Castellano GP MSW (2yo-F): Ciao Bella 76 (Giant's Causeway) Pletcher/Velazquez AQU Gravesend H: Frazil 94 (The Cliff's Edge) L. Rice/C. Velasquez AQU Let Me Linger S: Tiz the Argument 94 (Closing Argument) R. Dutrow/R. Curatolo AQU Flying Chevron S: San Pablo 94 (Jump Start) T. Pletcher/C. Velasquez FG Blushing K. D. H: Cherokee Queen 85 (Cherokee Run) S. Margolis/S. Bridgmohan FG Bonapaw S: Chamberlain Bridge 97 (War Chant) W. Calhoun/J. Theriot FG Tenacious H: Fast Alex 100 (Afleet Alex) G. Geier/R. Albarado FG Sugar Bowl S: Exfactor 82 (Exchange Rate) B. Flint/S. Bridgmohan FG Letellier Memorial S: Good Deed 85 (Broken Vow) S. Margolis/C. Lanerie GG Pacific Heights S: Antares World 84 (Decarchy) S. Specht/F. Alvarado TP Prairie Bayou S: Proceed Bee 89 (Bernstein) S. Becker/R. Prescott LRL MD Juv. Filly Championship S: Plum 60 (Pure Prize) R. Jenkins/T. Dunkelberger LRL MD Juv. Championship S: King and Crusader 75 (Lion Heart) R. Dutrow/V. Santiago
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12-19-2011, 08:15 AM
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Algorithms had an impressive race.
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12-19-2011, 08:27 AM
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VERY impressed with Ciao Bella's debut. Not a ton of firsters can overcome the poor start and being checked early. The way she moved between horses, and won so easily was something to see.
If she can stay away from Liver issues  , she may be something special.
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12-19-2011, 08:32 AM
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The MDN winner that went a bit unnoticed over the weekend was Margolis' Cherry homebred RADIANT TALENT.
89 Beyer over what might turn out to be an ok group.
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12-19-2011, 11:08 AM
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Of course. It was still an impressive performance.
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12-19-2011, 11:16 AM
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12-19-2011, 11:26 AM
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12-19-2011, 05:10 PM
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I remember the good ol days when Futurity runners ran between a 95-100 Beyer
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12-21-2011, 08:49 PM
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I have two questions... the one I want to ask every week and never do and now something else.
I'm not understanding the TBD here. I mean I know what it stands for but why is it even there? What exactly is it that needs to be determined days after the race? Quote:
What did they use before Beyer? Was there just no such thing as speed figures (maybe I should know this but I don't. Did he come up with them or refine and improve them)? Last edited by Kasept : 12-21-2011 at 09:13 PM.
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12-21-2011, 08:57 PM
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on DRF the two numbers after the horses odds on the running line are a variety of speed figure and have been there for as long as I can remember They are there now. They were there pre-Beyer example 87-17
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12-21-2011, 09:01 PM
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It can take 24-72 hours for Beyer Associates to make the figures. In this case; I just haven't had a chance to plug in the number.
The pre-Beyer old style figures in the Form are the Speed Rating/Track Variant.
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12-21-2011, 09:05 PM
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Thanks guys. Still confused but maybe that's just me.
King tried to explain things like splitting the variant to me a couple of years ago and I just have such a problem understanding... One of you should write an idiots guide to speed figs.
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12-21-2011, 09:10 PM
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People who did their own figures before Beyer's were published had a big advantage. Before Beyer's I don't believe there were reliable speed figures in the DRF.
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12-21-2011, 09:12 PM
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12-21-2011, 09:20 PM
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Honestly though... someone needs to break it down for people like me who aren't special  but who just have a very hard time understanding it for whatever reason.
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