conservatives vs women

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...backfire_.html


below is the article referenced above, discussing girl scouts.




http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...nization_.html

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here's the article about the politician who says:

'Radical' Girl Scouts out to destroy 'American family values'

By NBC News and msnbc.com staff
There's an agenda behind those cookies the Girl Scouts sell, one bent on promoting communism, lesbianism and subverting "traditional American family values," according to an Indiana lawmaker.

That's the reason Rep. Bob Morris, a Republican representing Fort Wayne, insists he won't go along with a resolution meant to honor the Girls Scouts on the organization's 100th anniversary.



http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-family-values

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http://www.journalgazette.net/articl...29962/-1/blogs


oh, and here's the letter he wrote.

wow

[Rileyoriley]

I will continue to purchase the "samoa" cookies despite the threat of communism.

[Danzig]

ah yes, those and thin mints. mmmmm mmmm.

[dellinger63]

I'm giving up Girl Scout Cookies for lent but will still buy several boxes and give them to the priests who hear my confessions for using contraceptives and having pre-marital sex as many times as possible.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm giving up Girl Scout Cookies for lent but will still buy several boxes and give them to the priests who hear my confessions for using contraceptives and having pre-marital sex as many times as possible.

Santourm or Barrack ? What do you do?
Do you vote for the guy who ended the war in Iraq, Afghanastan, got Osama seemed to have stabilized the sinking economy or do you simply vote Santourm becuase he is not Obama?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Santourm or Barrack ? What do you do?
Do you vote for the guy who ended the war in Iraq, Afghanastan, got Osama seemed to have stabilized the sinking economy or do you simply vote Santourm becuase he is not Obama?

I stay home.

Santourum isn't as dangerous as the Muslim Brotherhood but still from the same family.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Santourm or Barrack ? What do you do?
Do you vote for the guy who ended the war in Iraq, Afghanastan, got Osama seemed to have stabilized the sinking economy or do you simply vote Santourm becuase he is not Obama?

BTW we're still in Afghanistan and also in Iraq.

And he didn't stabilize anything

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

BTW we're still in Afghanistan and also in Iraq.

And he didn't stabilize anything

Talk to us about the stock market rally and jobless numbers. What is your take on them

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Talk to us about the stock market rally and jobless numbers. What is your take on them

IMO The stock market is not a very good indicator of the US economy overall.

The Jobless number is not as important as the overall jobs number unless considering the liability of endless unemployment benefits.

What truly worries me and should worry everyone is not so much the President's failure at cutting the deficit by half during his term as he promised but rather increasing it, each and every year and especially when compared to GDP.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

IMO The stock market is not a very good indicator of the US economy overall.

The Jobless number is not as important as the overall jobs number unless considering the liability of endless unemployment benefits.

What truly worries me and should worry everyone is not so much the President's failure at cutting the deficit by half during his term as he promised but rather increasing it, each and every year and especially when compared to GDP.

So basically pick and choose whatever you like to discredit Obama.. Ok.. If Obama was a republican I am sure you would say that most of the deficiet was already set in motion by his predecessor but of course you will disagree with me since we are talking hypothetical and you will also pick and choose your hypoththeticals to discredit Obama. Who was the last Democrat you voted for after leaving college?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Who was the last Democrat you voted for after leaving college?

Tammy Duckworth

before that Paul Simon

I've never voted for a Dem for President but have voted for an independent and a green party candidate. Perot and Nader.

Look I just want government, whether it be the left or right out of virtually everything other than protecting us from attack.

[Danzig]

so.....
today the virginia ledge passed a bill requiring women to get an ultrasound before getting an abortion. at least they changed from the invasive one they'd originally written. yeah, some progress. the rep gov expected to sign it into law.


and washington state.....judge just ruled that pharmacists can refuse to dispense certain drugs if they violate their religious beliefs. oh, that's wonderful. so, go to the counter and some guy doesn't do his job because of his personal opinion, so now he can refuse YOU because of HIS opinions. fantfreakingtastic!! look, if people have beliefs and opinions, great-but why are they allowed to affect someone else and someone else's life because of something they believe? so, if i worked at mcdonalds, and i told some fatass they didn't need a big mac, do you think i'd get fired? i bet i would. but if it's a religious belief, it would be quite all right.
what bs.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

So basically pick and choose whatever you like to discredit Obama.. Ok.. If Obama was a republican I am sure you would say that most of the deficiet was already set in motion by his predecessor but of course you will disagree with me since we are talking hypothetical and you will also pick and choose your hypoththeticals to discredit Obama. Who was the last Democrat you voted for after leaving college?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/op...=1&ref=opinion


Mullah Rick, who has turned prayer into a career move, told ABC News’s Jake Tapper that he disagreed with the 1965 Supreme Court decision striking down a ban on contraception. And, in October, he insisted that contraception is “not O.K. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”



'Why is it that Republicans don’t want government involved when it comes to the economy (opposing the auto bailouts) but do want government involved when it comes to telling people how to live their lives? '


well, maureen, that's a good question!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so.....
today the virginia ledge passed a bill requiring women to get an ultrasound before getting an abortion. at least they changed from the invasive one they'd originally written. yeah, some progress. the rep gov expected to sign it into law.


and washington state.....judge just ruled that pharmacists can refuse to dispense certain drugs if they violate their religious beliefs. oh, that's wonderful. so, go to the counter and some guy doesn't do his job because of his personal opinion, so now he can refuse YOU because of HIS opinions. fantfreakingtastic!! look, if people have beliefs and opinions, great-but why are they allowed to affect someone else and someone else's life because of something they believe? so, if i worked at mcdonalds, and i told some fatass they didn't need a big mac, do you think i'd get fired? i bet i would. but if it's a religious belief, it would be quite all right.
what bs.

For some, "religious freedom" means they get to push their religion on others. They forget that others are also entitled to freedom from their religion being shoved down their maws.

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It's a start ... the ultrasound bill is still around, unfortunately.

Huzzah! Virginia puts 'personhood' bill on hold until next year

In a stunning turn of events, the Virginia Senate has voted 24-14 to scuttle a bill that would have given fertilized eggs the same legal rights as people.

Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, D-Fairfax, proposed that House Bill 1, which had passed the Senate Education and Health Committee earlier today on an 8-7 party line vote, be sent back to the committee and carried over to the 2013 legislative session for further discussion and deliberation. [...]

The vote effectively kills the bill for the year.

The bill, HB 1, stated that life begins at conception and that fertilized eggs have all the rights and privileges of a person, which could effectively have banned abortion and some forms of contraception. In committee, the bill passed on 8-7 on strict party-line vote on the Republican-controlled committee. But when it got to the Senate floor, the vote was 24-14 to take it off the docket until next year.

"We are a laughingstock of the world because of things like this," said Sen. Mamie E. Locke, D-Hampton, who opposed the bill. "The individual rights of women are being challenged continuously," she said, calling the issue of a woman's pregnancy a matter between "them, their family and their doctor and their God."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...ear?via=blog_1

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...ound_laws.html


excellent piece! martha is spot on with her writing. the stance that many ultra-rights are taking is absolutely ridiculous. i cannot believe that at this time in our existence, we're still having to fight for the right to control our bodies!!
my two grandmothers had 21 children. one had 14, the other 7. not sure if they had any other pregnancies to go along with those kids. i can't imagine having that many kids, or that at my age i could still be having them-but knowing my family, it's entirely conceivable. how different our lives would be if tony and i had had a huge family. i have no doubt that many others could say the same. i am so glad that we could control that-it's something we take for granted, and it's an ability many aren't able to have. i am amazed that there are those who would take that away if they could.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's a start ... the ultrasound bill is still around, unfortunately.

One ultrasound bill spiked, but its twin poised to pass.

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/02/one-...in-poised-pass