Proof of Wisconsin Voter Fraud - by a Republican Rep in Wisconsin Assembly voting

[Riot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDiQg...layer_embedded

Watch the video above. The guy in the white shirt is Republican Rep. Joel Kleefisch, aka Mr. Rebecca Kleefisch (he's the husband of the Republican Lt. Governor).

Watch as Rep. Kleefisch votes on a matter. Then, watch has he votes twice more, using the voting buttons of absent legislators.

Oh, yeah: and Rep. Kleefisch voted for stronger voter ID laws in Wisconsin. Seems the State Assembly needs some Voter ID, too, to prevent reps falsely voting as other reps.

This is absolutely a disgusting perversion of the democratic process.

[geeker2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SLHr...feature=relmfu

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDiQg...layer_embedded

Watch the video above. The guy in the white shirt is Republican Rep. Joel Kleefisch, aka Mr. Rebecca Kleefisch (he's the husband of the Republican Lt. Governor).

Watch as Rep. Kleefisch votes on a matter. Then, watch has he votes twice more, using the voting buttons of absent legislators.

Oh, yeah: and Rep. Kleefisch voted for stronger voter ID laws in Wisconsin. Seems the State Assembly needs some Voter ID, too, to prevent reps falsely voting as other reps.

This is absolutely a disgusting perversion of the democratic process.

"The rule says you have to be present in the chamber. The bathroom counts as the chamber. And the parlor counts as a chamber if you are going to eat," said Joel Kleefisch.

In fact, Representative Jason Fields says it happens all the time with both sides -- Democrats and Republicans.

"Yeah, it's done when you have a conversation with your seat mate to know where they are at," said Rep. Fields.

Both lawmakers claim it's not breaking the rules, because technically the representative is still in the chamber.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/features/iteam/140096183.html

Keep trying. Something will stick eventually.

Occupy! LMAO

[Riot]

LMAO - you guys will try and explain away anything. If these were Democrats doing it, your heads would be exploding in anger

Intrade: Will Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker be recalled first, or be indicted first?

[nebrady]

You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote! Its not discrimatory and is a good idea. Like someone said in the local paper "I need an id when I go to a bank or to get in a bar whats the big deal about having to show it when you vote." It works just like walker is doing a good job in wisconsin. Do us a favor and stay out of wisconsin politics. Its bad enough that obama is apologizing to afghans for burning some religious items! You never would have heard reagan say a word! Comeon obama!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by nebrady

You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote! Its not discrimatory and is a good idea. Like someone said in the local paper "I need an id when I go to a bank or to get in a bar whats the big deal about having to show it when you vote." It works just like walker is doing a good job in wisconsin. Do us a favor and stay out of wisconsin politics. Its bad enough that obama is apologizing to afghans for burning some religious items! You never would have heard reagan say a word! Comeon obama!

You don't have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to a bank account or an alcoholic drink, that's the big deal. That person quoted in the local paper clearly didn't pay attention in Social Studies.

The right to vote is just that, a right. It's not a privilege; it's a right guaranteed to all Americans 18 and older. Anything that makes voting harder, including obtaining a picture ID, violates that right.

[Danzig]

it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LMAO - you guys will try and explain away anything. If these were Democrats doing it, your heads would be exploding in anger ?

Ignoring the fact 'it happens all the time' and you're the only one exploding?

^^^A textbook example of ignorance being bliss.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by nebrady

You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote!

How many people were turned away, or didn't go because they have no id?

Yeah. Get back to me after 5 million voters nationally are disinfranchised. You didn't see it, so it didn't happen.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Ignoring the fact 'it happens all the time' and you're the only one exploding?

^^^A textbook example of ignorance being bliss.

LOL ... I'm hardly the "only one". Considering the Republicans are down to a margin of 1 vote for passing their agenda, one man making sure three Republican votes are cast hardly surprises.

The number of dissatisfied will be measured at Walker's recall. And the recall of his Lt. Gov, and the four assemblymen.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.

perfect responce

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.

You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the comparison might be more accurate.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.

[nebrady]

Face it, it really is very simple to show an id. Also you can get a free id. It is not discrimanatory. Get off your high horse! As for the person voting for other senators, it was in the madison paper editorial, that both sides do it, yes even the democrats. What a shock! Walker will win this dumbass recall. He's doing a good job and is reducing the deficit that he inherited from a governor who just ignored and spent money like its monopoly money!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the parallel might fit better.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.

can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.

How bout those dead people in Chicago, will they be able to vote for Obama again?..

[dellinger63]

In IL you not only need to pay for a FOID card but you also have to provide the picture to browse, purchase or even shoot a gun. Until just recently it was also illegal to own a handgun in Chicago (even if it remained in the home). Where's the ACLU?

The constitution (2nd amendment) was thrown out the window and we're arguing about providing id to vote?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by bigrun

How bout those dead people in Chicago, will they be able to vote for Obama again?..

Even the dead people in Chicago disapprove of Obama

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Even the dead people in Chicago disapprove of Obama

It's that bad huh...then i'm switching to Rickie boy....if he gets the nod....let it be him - please let it be him....

Click on the 2nd one, Vicki Carr..

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...st=0&FORM=LKVR

[Riot]

How many cases of voting fraud, in the national elections, have been prosecuted in the past 20 years? (you can google it)

How many of those cases could have been prevented by having a voter ID? (you can google that, too)

The new voting ID laws attempting to be implemented by ALEC via their Republican hires are intended solely to disinfranchise the elderly, the poor and the non-white before the 2012 election. The Republican party knows how to read demographic profiles.

You know: those folks that tend to vote Democratic.

Voting should always be made more accessible, easier by American citizens. Not harder. That is why the courts are all over these states trying to implement restrictive ID laws.

An interesting explaination about the demographics hastening the extinction of the GOP, for the disbelievers, is here:

"2012 or Never
Republicans are worried this election could be their last chance to stop history. This is fear talking. But not paranoia. Why 2012 is the Republicans last chance."

http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-p...-chait-2012-3/

The Republican Party is in the grips of many fever dreams. But this is not one of them. To be sure, the apocalyptic ideological analysis—that “freedom” is incompatible with Clinton-era tax rates and Massachusetts-style health care—is pure crazy. But the panicked strategic analysis, and the sense of urgency it gives rise to, is actually quite sound. The modern GOP—the party of Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes—is staring down its own demographic extinction. Right-wing warnings of impending tyranny express, in hyperbolic form, well-grounded dread: that conservative America will soon come to be dominated, in a semi-permanent fashion, by an ascendant Democratic coalition hostile to its outlook and interests. And this impending doom has colored the party’s frantic, fearful response to the Obama presidency.

"The Lost Party
The strangest primary season in memory reveals a GOP that’s tearing itself apart. How the 2012 Primary has revealed a GOP on the verge of collapse."
http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-p...lemann-2012-3/

[Riot]

=nebrady;841583]Face it, it really is very simple to show an id.
Also you can get a free id. It is not discrimanatory.

Not if you are elderly, don't drive, and Wisconsin closed down your local DMV.

He's doing a good job and is reducing the deficit that he inherited from a governor who just ignored and spent money like its monopoly money!

Not really. Well, not at all, actually. Walker just announced he has a $140 million dollar budget deficit, and he's stealing money from the housing settlement to help his budget out. Wisconsin has also lead the nation with 6 straight months of job loss, highest in the nation, while other states were adding jobs, on Walker's policies.

That's not a reduction of the deficit, nor a "good job", in real life. Can you name some things Walker has done that you think are "good" and have helped the state? Because objectively he's increased the deficit, lost jobs, and torn the state apart emotionally so far. Which is why he's facing the recall election, where half a million signatures were needed, and over 1 million were submitted. Those are some angry Wisconsinites.

Look - you can support Walker, of course, but he's done the above, and that's undeniable.