Cheney criticizes Palin's VP selection.

bigrun · #1 07-30-2012, 07:16 PM

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Washington - Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday that it was a mistake for Republican Sen. John McCain to pick Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee.
Cheney said he liked Palin, but that she didn't pass the test of being ready to be president and that McCain's campaign didn't handle the vetting process well.

No schit Sherlock...a little tardy with that observation...Confirms the old adage, it takes one to know one...
Too bad you weren't vetted by Dumya..

Other Cheney news..It has been reported that his insurance company is not paying for his new heart...they say he was heartless prior to surgery..

pointman · #2 07-30-2012, 07:59 PM

I guess when you are dimwitted liberal who can't find a positive about your idol you continue to dwell on things that were relevant before the titanic took office.

GBBob · #3 07-30-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

I guess when you are dimwitted liberal who can't find a positive about your idol you continue to dwell on things that were relevant before the titanic took office.

Stay classy republicans..never anything at fault with you..jeeesus

ooops..sorry..Didn't mean to take the lords name in vain

pointman · #4 07-30-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Stay classy republicans..never anything at fault with you..jeeesus

ooops..sorry..Didn't mean to take the lords name in vain

I really thought that you were smarter than this. To have to consistently blame Bush and resort to the overboard agenda of burying Cheney and Palin which have no relevance to today's politics because the ideals you are trying to defend have proved to be a disaster in practice over a Presidential term is lame. Just sayin'

Danzig · #5 07-30-2012, 08:25 PM

i've been saying since...well, when mcain picked palin that it was a mistake. i'm not sure why so many seem to think that because she has looks that she somehow belonged. i'm amazed at how many people around here (arkansas, not this board) that actually like her. my district manager for one. when i started mentioning her interviews, the questions, and how she answered....

she reads every magazine? couldn't name a supreme court ruling other than roe v wade that she disagreed with-i don't think she could name another case at all. who's your favorite founding father? all of them.

christ. i didn't know all that, he said. why not? he probably saw her, thought heeey...and that was as far as it went.
i'm just glad she's not relevant anymore(not that i ever thought she was, but she was all over the tv and the internet). the palin sightings grow rarer every day, thank god.

GBBob · #6 07-30-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

I really thought that you were smarter than this. To have to consistently blame Bush and resort to the overboard agenda of burying Cheney and Palin which have no relevance to today's politics because the ideals you are trying to defend have proved to be a disaster over a Presidential term is lame. Just sayin'

I think he was just poking fun at someone Liberals find to be...um..very amusing. The bigger point is that the right seems to find the left so "thin-skinned" that the irony, at least to us Liberals, is that the tea baggers and righties sure can dish it out but as soon as you either challenge or even have some fun with right wingers, they just come back with the usual libtard or whatever type comments. You think Riot is really any different than Del, Joey, RBE etc? She may take things to a bit more of an extreme and can be condescending, but jeepers...the Republicans aren't? You just disagree with her opinions so attack, attack , attack...

I, along with many others (right and left) don't post here much anymore. It used to be fun to have conversations about politics, but....and maybe my head is in the sand...I just don't think you can argue politics with a Conservative. At some point their natural instinct is to just lash out. I have my definite opinons but don't claim to be correct 100% of the time. I think righties do and even if they may have their doubts about an issue, the default is being a Liberal is a small step from being a communist, socialist or even the devil. I have never voted for a repubilican and loathe most of their platform, but still enjoy the debate. I wish that could happen more.

Danzig · #7 07-30-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think he was just poking fun at someone Liberals find to be...um..very amusing. The bigger point is that the right seems to find the left so "thin-skinned" that the irony, at least to us Liberals, is that the tea baggers and righties sure can dish it out but as soon as you either challenge or even have some fun with right wingers, they just come back with the usual libtard or whatever type comments. You think Riot is really any different than Del, Joey, RBE etc? She may take things to a bit more of an extreme and can be condescending, but jeepers...the Republicans aren't? You just disagree with her opinions so attack, attack , attack...

I, along with many others (right and left) don't post here much anymore. It used to be fun to have conversations about politics, but....and maybe my head is in the sand...I just don't think you can argue politics with a Conservative. At some point their natural instinct is to just lash out. I have my definite opinons but don't claim to be correct 100% of the time. I think righties do and even if they may have their doubts about an issue, the default is being a Liberal is a small step from being a communist, socialist or even the devil. I have never voted for a repubilican and loathe most of their platform, but still enjoy the debate. I wish that could happen more.

yep, palin is definitely amusing.

but i've always found all of your points above about republicans to be equally true about democrats. i guess that's why myself, and others who don't ascribe to any one party, find the whole debate about who is 'better' to be a hilarious argument.
i don't think either side is better. i think both parties have a few good ideas, and many bad ones. both sides think they're always right. both point fingers when the other has an awful moment. each tries to take the moral high ground, when really, neither can occupy it all the time.
i love when debate occurs. what i hate is when people take it to a personal level.

pointman · #8 07-30-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think he was just poking fun at someone Liberals find to be...um..very amusing. The bigger point is that the right seems to find the left so "thin-skinned" that the irony, at least to us Liberals, is that the tea baggers and righties sure can dish it out but as soon as you either challenge or even have some fun with right wingers, they just come back with the usual libtard or whatever type comments. You think Riot is really any different than Del, Joey, RBE etc? She may take things to a bit more of an extreme and can be condescending, but jeepers...the Republicans aren't? You just disagree with her opinions so attack, attack , attack...

I, along with many others (right and left) don't post here much anymore. It used to be fun to have conversations about politics, but....and maybe my head is in the sand...I just don't think you can argue politics with a Conservative. At some point their natural instinct is to just lash out. I have my definite opinons but don't claim to be correct 100% of the time. I think righties do and even if they may have their doubts about an issue, the default is being a Liberal is a small step from being a communist, socialist or even the devil. I have never voted for a repubilican and loathe most of their platform, but still enjoy the debate. I wish that could happen more.

I guess you don't read here much anymore. Riot and her lackey Big Run have hijacked this section with their constant attempt to impose their views on others and dismiss even a hint of criticism to their agenda. I am hardly a tea partier or conservative, but probably come across as one as I have fun ridiculing them when I am bored. I have no problem engaging in discussions of issues, but there is no debate with those that are so far on the left, which tends to be the problem with the extreme liberals. So I just play their stupid game for entertainment value and allow them to make fools of themselves.

I know your views and don't have a problem with them since you can engage like a decent human being. But really, to still be taking the tact of attacking Cheney and Palin when they have no present relevance is just asking for someone to call you out and I have to think you know that. Like you, I agree that it would be nice to have an intelligent debate. But even though I disagree with much of what is stated by those you have named, you can't seriously put them in the same category of Riot and Big Run's constant defense of everything she throws out there.

GBBob · #9 07-30-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

yep, palin is definitely amusing.

but i've always found all of your points above about republicans to be equally true about democrats. i guess that's why myself, and others who don't ascribe to any one party, find the whole debate about who is 'better' to be a hilarious argument.
i don't think either side is better. i think both parties have a few good ideas, and many bad ones. both sides think they're always right. both point fingers when the other has an awful moment. each tries to take the moral high ground, when really, neither can occupy it all the time.
i love when debate occurs. what i hate is when people take it to a personal level.

I think there are two seperate conversations here..The first is strictly issue based...Some fall in the middle like yourself, others, like Pointman, Dell and myself generally find themselves 100% in one camp or the other. I disagree with you that both parties have good ideas..but that's politics. But there is a reason that there are no popular lefty whackos like Rush, etc..I don't need a blowhard to tell me how to think or to give me talking points or to affirm my beliefs..it sure seems that many republicans do and that the viatrolity coming from the airwaves is mimicked often. Again....being a liberal ain't the death knell...That Dani is my point. I don't hate Republicans, but I can guarantee you there are many, many more Republicans that do hate Liberals.

GBBob · #10 07-30-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

I guess you don't read here much anymore. Riot and her lackey Big Run have hijacked this section with their constant attempt to impose their views on others and dismiss even a hint of criticism to their agenda. I am hardly a tea partier or conservative, but probably come across as one as I have fun ridiculing them when I am bored. I have no problem engaging in discussions of issues, but there is no debate with those that are so far on the left, which tends to be the problem with the extreme liberals. So I just play their stupid game for entertainment value and allow them to make fools of themselves.

I know your views and don't have a problem with them since you can engage like a decent human being. But really, to still be taking the tact of attacking Cheney and Palin when they have no present relevance is just asking for someone to call you out and I have to think you know that. Like you, I agree that it would be nice to have an intelligent debate. But even though I disagree with much of what is stated by those you have named, you can't seriously put them in the same category of Riot and Big Run's constant defense of everything she throws out there.

But seriously..you don't find Coach or others to be on the exact same wavelength as Riot and Bigrun..just with a different message? That where my incredulousness comes from..I have read and do read every thread here. That's why I applaud Riot and Big run..it's fun to see the Right ( not necesssarily you) get a dose of their own medicine. It's all one big PKB fest

Riot · #11 07-30-2012, 09:15 PM

Dick Cheney has much relevancy in politics today, considering that most of Romney's foreign policy team are directly from the W. Bush White House; John Bolton is a Romney campaign foreign policy advisor, and Dick Cheney is also giving advice to Romney.

Cheney got a new heart, paid for by we taxpayers, and he's back, y'all

Seriously, he does look good. He was still nearly dead with that flabby heart muscle and needed cardiac-assist device.

Danzig · #12 07-30-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think there are two seperate conversations here..The first is strictly issue based...Some fall in the middle like yourself, others, like Pointman, Dell and myself generally find themselves 100% in one camp or the other. I disagree with you that both parties have good ideas..but that's politics. But there is a reason that there are no popular lefty whackos like Rush, etc..I don't need a blowhard to tell me how to think or to give me talking points or to affirm my beliefs..it sure seems that many republicans do and that the viatrolity coming from the airwaves is mimicked often. Again....being a liberal ain't the death knell...That Dani is my point. I don't hate Republicans, but I can guarantee you there are many, many more Republicans that do hate Liberals.

i can't stand rush limbaugh, and i don't understand his popularity. and you're right, it's not a death knell.
as for whether they have good ideas, they might be few and far between-but i'm sure every once in a while there's a good one somewhere.

the trick is finding it under all the rubbish. but yeah, it seems difficult to find a good republican idea these days. what gets me is that they say they want smaller government, but continue to do the exact opposite of that.

pointman · #13 07-30-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

But seriously..you don't find Coach or others to be on the exact same wavelength as Riot and Bigrun..just with a different message? That where my incredulousness comes from..I have read and do read every thread here. That's why I applaud Riot and Big run..it's fun to see the Right ( not necesssarily you) get a dose of their own medicine. It's all one big PKB fest

I don't find the others named to come close to the arrogance that Riot displays here. The vast majority of threads and posts in this section is by you know who. She then gets into an argument with anyone who attempts to disagree with her while being nasty, condescending and dismissive. She even does it in threads outside this section. Hell, she even makes me want to consider joining the anti-Lasix crowd.

It may surprise you that I spend the vast majority of my professional life protecting the rights of those who don't have the expertise of protecting themselves. I am not nearly the conservative you may think. I will be happy to pm you a link to my law firm website which I will not post here since I am not here to advertise. But I do not see how a serious debate can occur with the way Riot insists on trying to silence those who disagree with her views which Big Run just happily joins in.

Riot · #14 07-30-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

...I just don't think you can argue politics with a Conservative. At some point their natural instinct is to just lash out. I have my definite opinons but don't claim to be correct 100% of the time. I think righties do and even if they may have their doubts about an issue, the default is being a Liberal is a small step from being a communist, socialist or even the devil. I have never voted for a repubilican and loathe most of their platform, but still enjoy the debate. I wish that could happen more.

An interesting thing that psychologists and neurologists have found, is that, the part of the brain "liberals" and "conservatives" think with is different (conservatives tend to default to "automatic thinking", liberal tend to "analyze", and no, that has nothing to do with intelligence); and very conservative people tend to be authoritarian, and work from a father-figure mode: there are rules, and you never break them. Period. Liberals tend to look at each situation, shades of grey, etc.

Doesn't mean one is right or wrong, they are just truly, measurably different in how they think and approach problems or discussions.

Riot · #15 07-30-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

But seriously..you don't find Coach or others to be on the exact same wavelength as Riot and Bigrun..just with a different message? That where my incredulousness comes from..I have read and do read every thread here. That's why I applaud Riot and Big run..it's fun to see the Right ( not necesssarily you) get a dose of their own medicine. It's all one big PKB fest

Yes, but another difference is that Big and I see exactly what you see, too. The righties don't

Riot · #16 07-30-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

I don't find the others named to come close to the arrogance that Riot displays here. The vast majority of threads and posts in this section is by you know who. She then gets into an argument with anyone who attempts to disagree with her while being nasty, condescending and dismissive. She even does it in threads outside this section. Hell, she even makes me want to consider joining the anti-Lasix crowd.

It may surprise you that I spend the vast majority of my professional life protecting the rights of those who don't have the expertise of protecting themselves. I am not nearly the conservative you may think. I will be happy to pm you a link to my law firm website which I will not post here since I am not here to advertise. But I do not see how a serious debate can occur with the way Riot insists on trying to silence those who disagree with her views which Big Run just happily joins in.

Shorter Pointman: I hate Riot

Oh, Pointman, you make me laugh ....