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Old 08-03-2012, 10:03 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/congress-much-...072755735.html


five weeks off. unbelievable. and work to do...but who cares? didn't we break from the mother country a couple hundred years ago to escape being run by a special class who thought they were above the peasantry?
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:18 AM
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The House left for vacation for a month anyway, not doing what Boehner said they would get done before vacation, leaving multiple bills already passed by the Senate sitting there unaddressed.

This Republican House under Boehner has worked less days than any House in modern times. They have passed a historically low amount of legislation. They have replaced the famous "Do Nothing" congress of the past with the "Do Nothing congress of 2010".

Although they have managed to bring to the floor and pass multiple futile attempts to repeal the ACA, and passed over 40 anti-woman forced birth bills, spending millions of dollars on ... Doing Nothing.

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Major bills that Congress left unfinished as it left for its 5-week August recess:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...s-for-vacation

Farm Bill - farmers devastated by drought left unhelped
Violence Against Women Act
Cybersecurity
Postal Service overhaul
Food programs
Russian trade agreements
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:31 AM
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You mean Nancy Pelosi never got an answer to whether illegals in homosexual relationships with legals will still be deported?

We're doomed!

However personally, when Congress is doing nothing but staying out of the way, they're doing their job.
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You mean Nancy Pelosi never got an answer to whether illegals in homosexual relationships with legals will still be deported?

We're doomed!

However personally, when Congress is doing nothing but staying out of the way, they're doing their job.
there are at least five million children who see their parents deported, so i wouldn't be surprised to see marriages broken up. actually, that occurs as well. i remember reading about a u.s. woman who goes to the canadian border to visit her husband, who was deported. they'd been fighting for a couple years to get that straight.

and the problem is that congress doesn't stay out of the way. nothing further will probably be done til after the election. there are so many issues needing confronted, and it's their job, and they slink off down the road. i guess their pockets are full enough for now.
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from the slate article in another thread:


Meanwhile, the “budget sequester” spending cuts that were agreed to in order to resolve the debt-ceiling standoff also stand ready to take a healthy bite out of the economy. While it was once thought Congress might come to its senses and find some way to kick this can down the road, it looks increasingly like the cuts will happen. The only alternatives with substantial momentum behind them on the Hill are Republican plans to roll back the military cuts and pay for them with larger domestic cutbacks—a wash in economic terms.


instead of nero fiddling while rome burns, the entire congress is letting everything go up in smoke. enjoy your vacations, you've obviously earned it with all your hard work!
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i think everyone should make calls, or send emails-we must do everything in our power to let these people know they need to stay at work. sitting here and discussing things on a message board is one thing....doing something is another.

tell your friends to call/email as well. we have power, we just have to be willing to use it. we don't have to just sit and take it.
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http://www.thenation.com/article/168...new-gilded-age


now, reich points this article at romney...but note in there about 'both parties'. again, congress is the issue-not one party or the other-it's BOTH. we need to clean house-and senate.


Part of the answer, surely, is that elected Democrats are still almost as beholden to the wealthy for campaign funds as the Republicans, and don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them. Wall Street can give most of its largesse to Romney this year and still have enough left over to tame many influential Democrats (look at the outcry from some of them when the White House took on Bain Capital). But I suspect a deeper reason for their reticence is that if they connect the dots and reveal Romney for what he is—the epitome of what’s fundamentally wrong with our economy—they’ll be admitting how serious our economic problems really are. They would have to acknowledge that the economic catastrophe that continues to cause us so much suffering is, at its root, a product of the gross inequality of income, wealth and political power in America’s new Gilded Age, as well as the perverse incentives of casino capitalism.

Yet this admission would require that they propose ways of reversing these trends—proposals large and bold enough to do the job. Time will tell whether today’s Democratic Party and this White House have the courage and imagination to do it. If they do not, that in itself poses almost as great a challenge to the future of the nation as does Mitt Romney and all he represents.




to me, that's the big problem. both parties are too beholden to the moneyed men, and we all get the shaft because of it. people say romney would be better, but no, he really wouldn't. follow the money. ceo's are donating 4-1 to romney over obama. ask yourself why? ask yourself just what you'd be voting for, if you vote for romney. or for a republican in the house or senate elections. what are you getting with your incumbents up for re-election? they'll spend the five week vacation telling you what they've done for you-what's their record show?
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In SE Wisconsin a pipeline busted forcing prices to rise by 50 CENTS a gallon in ONE week. The pipeline is fixed just waiting on Obama's EPA to give their blessing. Nothing to do with congress at all!

Gov. Walker has called the WH but heard nothing back.

Great campaign move making those rich Wisconsonites pay an extra 50 cents at the pump!

His WI base apparantly don't own cars.
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Right this cartoon proves it..




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In SE Wisconsin a pipeline busted forcing prices to rise by 50 CENTS a gallon in ONE week. The pipeline is fixed just waiting on Obama's EPA to give their blessing. Nothing to do with congress at all!

Gov. Walker has called the WH but heard nothing back.

Great campaign move making those rich Wisconsonites pay an extra 50 cents at the pump!

His WI base apparantly don't own cars.



it's not 'obama's epa'. you're too fixated on one person. obama isn't the problem, nor is he the solution. the problem is who funds the two major parties. they control everything that occurs. we all like to point fingers at the ceo-but in all truth, he's just the easy target to blame.
follow the money. you want stuff fixed? start pulling all support from the two parties. just what do you think would happen if both major parties lost in the next election to indies, to other third parties? man, that would be the biggest wake up call ever.
ah, one can dream.
but it won't happen. those on the left will go all dem, those on the right will go all rep...and then everyone will wonder why nothing changes.
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it's not 'obama's epa'. you're too fixated on one person. obama isn't the problem, nor is he the solution. the problem is who funds the two major parties. they control everything that occurs. we all like to point fingers at the ceo-but in all truth, he's just the easy target to blame.
follow the money. you want stuff fixed? start pulling all support from the two parties. just what do you think would happen if both major parties lost in the next election to indies, to other third parties? man, that would be the biggest wake up call ever.
ah, one can dream.
but it won't happen. those on the left will go all dem, those on the right will go all rep...and then everyone will wonder why nothing changes.
How about paying down the debt as opposed to lowering the deficit!

There's no such politician out there unless you go deep in the tea party extreme!

But that would be my girl.

Cut the money train and the pimps and whores will be gone!
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it's not 'obama's epa'. .
and although one can argue this is Bush's tax policy or Bush's economy.
THIS IS OBAMA'S EPA!
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http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...45940b9a820313


the above was on the AP page this morning, on countrywide, their vip loans, and how members of congress were oh so helpful regarding disclosure.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Democratic committee chairman overrode his own subpoena three years ago in an investigation of former subprime mortgage lender Countrywide Financial Corp. to exclude records showing that he, other House members and congressional aides got VIP discounted loans from the company, documents show.

The procedure to keep the names secret was devised by Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y. In 2003, the 15-term congressman had two loans processed by Countrywide's VIP section, which was established to give discounts to favored borrowers.

The effort at secrecy was reversed when Towns' Republican successor as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, California Rep. Darrell Issa, issued a second subpoena. It yielded Countrywide records identifying four current House members, a former member and five staff aides whose loans went through the VIP unit. Towns was on the list.



and near the bottom:

Towns' own loan files were not provided under his own subpoena because he listed U.S. Capital (sic) as his employer.
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the above was on the AP page this morning, on countrywide, their vip loans, and how members of congress were oh so helpful regarding disclosure.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Democratic committee chairman overrode his own subpoena three years ago in an investigation of former subprime mortgage lender Countrywide Financial Corp. to exclude records showing that he, other House members and congressional aides got VIP discounted loans from the company, documents show.

The procedure to keep the names secret was devised by Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y. In 2003, the 15-term congressman had two loans processed by Countrywide's VIP section, which was established to give discounts to favored borrowers.

The effort at secrecy was reversed when Towns' Republican successor as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, California Rep. Darrell Issa, issued a second subpoena. It yielded Countrywide records identifying four current House members, a former member and five staff aides whose loans went through the VIP unit. Towns was on the list.



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Towns' own loan files were not provided under his own subpoena because he listed U.S. Capital (sic) as his employer.
I'm sure Rep. Edolphus Towns is under double or maybe even triple secret probation as we speak. And his announced retirement is coincidental

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