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Old 08-21-2012, 08:04 PM
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Obama doesn't suck.

He's not a Muslim. He's not a communist, nor a Kenyan, nor a Stalinist, nor a Socialist.

If you think those things, you're not dealing well with reality. You are factually wrong.

Obama has not destroyed the economy, nor has he added "trillions and trillions" to the deficit.

In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP.

If you think that is not right, you are factually wrong.

He's created about a million jobs. He's passed a consumer health care act that helps every single person in this country, even right now.

He has given the most to veteran benefits than any other president in years.

He has eliminated bin Laden and most of Al Quaeda.

Again - facts are terrible things to those that don't like them.

And the First Lady ... she is not a "Nazi" - that word has very real connotations, and to use it as a casual insult is abhorrent to the First Lady and to Jews that suffered at the hands of Nazi's.

The First Lady is very typical of our First Ladies, in choosing a cause and helping. Yeah, our American children are very ill with diabetes and other obesity-caused disease, and don't exercise.

That's a fact.

She stresses good nutrition and exercise. That does not make her a "Nazi". Let alone a "buffoon"

And the above are all verifiable facts that are recognized in the real world of reality, whether you support the President or not. Not opinion - fact.

The old canard of "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts" applies.

Get the hell over it. You are free to be a bigot, a racist, a hater, a conspiracy theorist, or just hate Obama's presidency and want him out 'cause that's how you roll.

But you don't get to lie, and you don't get to attack the truth with impunity. Go over to Freeperville if that's your goal. Hundreds of people read this section of Derby Trail, and believe me, they are not all conspiracy-theory-loving Obama Haters.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:16 PM
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Do you feel better now???

Just wanted to let you know that Brown is leading Warren in the latest poll in Massachusetts. Have a wonderful evening.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:18 PM
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Do you feel better now???

Just wanted to let you know that Brown is leading Warren in the latest poll in Massachusetts. Have a wonderful evening.
Brown had a meltdown today, and sent a public letter to Reince Prebus about the newly adopted GOP desire to have a "no abortion if you are raped" constitutional amendment.

He'll be lucky to hold on, but at least he is trying desperately to sever himself from his party.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:26 PM
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Obama has personally dismantled the Constitution of the United States with regard to the 4th,5th, and 6th amendments and has spent us into receivership with failed, ignorant, myopic economic policy he continues to cram down our throats.

Oh, and he is arming virtually every govt. agency with hollow point bullets to quell the impending uprising which is virtually unavoidable at this point.

And as far as your Obama DT fan club goes - that is the height of delusion.

I'll clue you in on something your therapist is probably avoiding telling you so as not to watch you snap - it is just you.

Oh and BigGunt, who hasn't expressed an original thought since he showed up. But he sure figured out how to put pickturs on tha intraweb and derail threads. Great job.

Obama sucks as a president. He might be a really cool guy in real life, but he is a joke internationally and an embarrassment as a president.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:27 PM
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Obama has personally dismantled the Constitution of the United States with regard to the 4th,5th, and 6th amendments and has spent us into receivership with failed, ignorant, myopic economic policy he continues to cram down our throats.

Oh, and he is arming virtually every govt. agency with hollow point bullets to quell the impending uprising which is virtually unavoidable at this point.

And as far as your Obama DT fan club goes - that is the height of delusion.

I'll clue you in on something your therapist is probably avoiding telling you so as not to watch you snap - it is just you.

Oh and BigGunt, who hasn't expressed an original thought since he showed up. But he sure figured out how to put pickturs on tha intraweb and derail threads. Great job.

Obama sucks as a president. He might be a really cool guy in real life, but he is a joke internationally and an embarrassment as a president.
I'm still waiting on your answer in the other thread, if you can rise above acting like a name-calling five-year-old. For some weird reason I keep giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you really "do" want to talk actual politics, and that you might have a useful opinion to offer.

Looks like that answer is no, though.

Your undeserved lash-out and attack of another Dee Tee-er was pretty classy - not. Just sayin'

Oh - and you might want to review the polls over time to see exactly how many fellow Obama-Hating-Conspiracy-theorists are in this country. I'll guess not hardly as many as you seem to think.

Alas, your first sentence. Ridiculous, false hyperbole. It's so sad to see people that don't understand how laws are made, how congress works. Embarrassing for this country, really. There are so many factual things to discuss ...drones, Afghanistan, etc. Just a shame you can't participate in that discussion.

Well, we people that don't exist will just keep shaking our heads sadly at you and your ilk. Good luck with it!

I'm gonna go donate $500 to Obama. Yeah, that will feel good, actually :-)
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:33 PM
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Brown is being endorsed by democrats and leading with the independents (the majority of Mass voters). People ARE voting on the economy and statements like "you didn't build that on your own" (first spoken by Warren, then echoed by Obama), "we should follow China's example on building our infrastructure", and lamenting student loans when she took down six figure salary as a "minority" professor at Harvard are killing her here. She has even resorted to campaigning in the Northampton, Amherst area (as liberal an area that you will ever find). She can't even rally support from them. Go back to 2010 and the special election between Brown and Coakley and she was always leading in the polls by double digits.
While I have no doubt Obama will win in Mass., I think it will be alot closer than people think. The majority of my family are lifelong democrats and they are voting for Romney. They all say the same thing-he was a good governor and the economy has gotten worse and the spending is out of control.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:39 PM
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Brown is being endorsed by democrats and leading with the independents (the majority of Mass voters). People ARE voting on the economy and statements like "you didn't build that on your own" (first spoken by Warren, then echoed by Obama), "we should follow China's example on building our infrastructure", and lamenting student loans when she took down six figure salary as a "minority" professor at Harvard are killing her here. She has even resorted to campaigning in the Northampton, Amherst area (as liberal an area that you will ever find). She can't even rally support from them. Go back to 2010 and the special election between Brown and Coakley and she was always leading in the polls by double digits.
While I have no doubt Obama will win in Mass., I think it will be alot closer than people think. The majority of my family are lifelong democrats and they are voting for Romney. They all say the same thing-he was a good governor and the economy has gotten worse and the spending is out of control.
As I said, if Brown can distance himself from the BatShiat Crazy Current Republican party, as he's aggressively trying to do, and their obvious desire to return to the 1800's as far as women's rights are concerned, he'll continue to do well.

He's an old-fashioned Republican, not a lunatic John Bircher. Between Brown and Warren, I'd usually vote for Brown. But not now, not until the GOP comes to it's senses again.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:42 PM
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Obama has personally dismantled the Constitution of the United States with regard to the 4th,5th, and 6th amendments and has spent us into receivership with failed, ignorant, myopic economic policy he continues to cram down our throats.

Oh, and he is arming virtually every govt. agency with hollow point bullets to quell the impending uprising which is virtually unavoidable at this point.

And as far as your Obama DT fan club goes - that is the height of delusion.

I'll clue you in on something your therapist is probably avoiding telling you so as not to watch you snap - it is just you.

Oh and BigGunt, who hasn't expressed an original thought since he showed up. But he sure figured out how to put pickturs on tha intraweb and derail threads. Great job.

Obama sucks as a president. He might be a really cool guy in real life, but he is a joke internationally and an embarrassment as a president.
I'm sorry..that just isn't true
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:51 PM
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As I said, if Brown can distance himself from the BatShiat Crazy Current Republican party, as he's aggressively trying to do, and their obvious desire to return to the 1800's as far as women's rights are concerned, he'll continue to do well.

He's an old-fashioned Republican, not a lunatic John Bircher. Between Brown and Warren, I'd usually vote for Brown. But not now, not until the GOP comes to it's senses again.
Since Brown took office, he has voted with his party 54% so I don't think he has to try too "aggressively" to distance himself. He's known as an independent thus his popularity in this state.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:57 PM
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:19 PM
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I'm sorry..that just isn't true
I'm sorry, I should have clarified. China and India love him.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:19 PM
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
Yes, but I'll point out that's a different metric than what I mentioned. The debt has increased, as we are still paying for old things, with interest. We could stop spending today and the debt will continue to rise.

I do believe our GDP to debt ratio right now is not as fearsome as some think, less than Reagans I believe (have to look it up, don't hold me to it)

But Obama's policies and programs have not added massively to the debt. He's cut federal spending a bit. He's cut our deficit a bit. The "big spender" thing just isn't true. He's expanded Medicare to last another 8 years. The GDP has gone up a bit. All with just the initial, very half,hearted stimulus, and about zero further action by Congress or the Fed.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:27 PM
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Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit and reduced spending. He has outspent, added more to the deficit, and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.

You are trying to give him credit for raising GDP???? This the worst recovery in 65 years. By the way, historically the worse the recession the stronger the recovery, that is until Obamanomics.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:30 PM
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Oh by the way Obama does suck.
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Obama has personally dismantled the Constitution of the United States with regard to the 4th,5th, and 6th amendments and has spent us into receivership with failed, ignorant, myopic economic policy he continues to cram down our throats.

Oh, and he is arming virtually every govt. agency with hollow point bullets to quell the impending uprising which is virtually unavoidable at this point.
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Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit and reduced spending. He has outspent, added more to the deficit, and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.

You are trying to give him credit for raising GDP???? This the worst recovery in 65 years. By the way, historically the worse the recession the stronger the recovery, that is until Obamanomics.
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.

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Old 08-21-2012, 10:35 PM
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Ah, the fact-free: the birthers, the conspiracy theorists, the racists, the bigots, the haters, and the simple loons.

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Old 08-21-2012, 10:53 PM
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Thepaindispenser: Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit
Sigh. You lie.



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and reduced spending.
You lie.


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He has outspent,
You lie.



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added more to the deficit,
You lie. See above.

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and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.
You even lie about this:

At this point in their presidencies:
George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch
Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
President Obama has taken 61 vacation days

You're a proven liar, and a blathering, hating idiot, with zero veracity. You are a very good joke, however

Oh,yeah - no, Obama doesn't suck. Suck on that, Lil' Sockpuppet
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Ah, the fact-free: the birthers, the conspiracy theorists, the racists, the bigots, the haters, and the simple loons.

Here's another chart for you. Sop it up you slanderous pig. Taking credit for fake charts from an ass clown that can't get a budget approved.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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yeah, he does suck. he absolutely does. and even tho romney also sucks, the polls remain close. why? because obama sucks. if he didn't, he'd be thrashing the sucky republican nominee.


the latest approval ratings:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/ba...-approval.aspx

note who were the only two presidents at this point with a lower rating. and he is below average at this point. that sums up his term to me; below average.

and here's this:

Tuesday, August 21, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 45% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll
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