BreedersCUP Early Look

DiscreetCat=Monster · #1 09-22-2006, 11:13 PM

From the DRF
Juvenile Fillies, 1 1/16 miles
1. Point Ashley: A very impressive winner of the seven-furlong Del Mar Debutante; Bob Baffert-trained, bred to improve with more distance.
2. Five Star Daydream: Shug McGaughey-trained; improved on cue to win second career outing, more development expected in the fall.
3. Octave: Finished well for her win in the 6 1/2-furlong Adirondack; trained by Todd Pletcher who, as usual, is loaded with prospects for this division.

Juvenile, 1 1/16 miles
1. Circular Quay: Powerful multiple graded stakes winner takes it easy early, but has a very strong will to win. Pletcher with a 2007 classics prospect.
2. Horse Greeley: Improved smartly to win a good maiden race and then won the Del Mar Futurity as if there is more development to come. Dick Mandella-trained.
3. Principle Secret: Won his maiden race and the Best Pal at Del Mar in eye-catching style. Another good 2007 prospect.

Sprint, 6 furlongs
1. Siren Lure: Been solid all year and has the late kick to take advantage of a contested pace. Art Sherman-trained.
2. Henny Hughes: Very fast 3-year-old was a good second in the 1 1/16-mile BC Juvenile last year and has been wisely kept sprinting in 2006. Kiaran McLaughlin- trained.
3. Too Much Bling: Another very fast 3-year-old who was wisely kept away from the Triple Crown chase. Trained by Bob Baffert, who also has the fleet filly Behaving Badly, one of several fillies and mares to watch in this division.

Filly & Mare Turf, 1 3/8 miles
1. Ouija Board: Solid, hard-hitting mare with strong prior form in this race and terrific performances in Europe this year will take plenty of beating.
2. Wait a While: Won both grass outings this year in superb style for Pletcher. A possible champion in the making who should relish the 1 3/8-mile distance.
3. Gorella: Was flying when blocked in last year's BC Mile and again when fifth against males in the Woodord Reserve Turf Classic at Churchill on Derby Day. Made a strong visual impression beating her own kind at one mile and 1 3/16 miles. Added distance a possible concern.

Mile, turf
1. Aragorn: Neil Drysdale trainee was convincing winner of two stakes at Del Mar this summer. Acts like a classy, natural miler.
2. Gorella: Fits this spot much better than the 1 3/8-mile Filly and Mare Turf.
3. George Washington: High class and consistent European miler trained by Aidan O'Brien figures to lead a typically strong European contingent in this event.

Distaff, 1 1/8 miles
1. Pine Island: 3-year-old natural router has been beautifully developed by Shug McGaughey. Won the 10-furlong Alabama and the nine-furlong Gazelle, but might need some practice against older fillies and mares.
2. Fleet Indian: Pletcher-trained 4-year-old miss has won all five of her 2006 outings while earning strong pace numbers.
3. Pool Land: Another high-class Pletcher-trained 4-year- old filly who is on a long list of realistic contenders.

Turf, 1 1/2 miles
1. Shirocco: Won this race last year and has been in top form throughout his European campaign. Logical favorite if he attempts to repeat.
2. English Channel: Was a disappointing fifth in this race last year, but improved as a 4-year-old while trading blows with high- class Cacique in four hard-fought races. Was wisely freshened by Pletcher; can run with the Europeans.
3. Showing Up: Was taken a bit out of his game doing the main chasing in the 1 3/8-mile Man o' War won by the Frankel-trained Cacique, who prefers 1 1/8 or 1 3/16 miles. Showing Up gained enormous experience and should love this route.

Classic, 1 1/4 miles
1. Bernardini: It's really too bad that Barbaro was injured and we missed out on seeing a BC Classic with both Bernardini and Barbaro in the race. While we will see Bernardini in action against Invasor, in the Jockey Club Gold Cup, the suspicion is that only a horse of Barbaro's quality can beat this horse at his best. Magnificently trained by Tom Albertrani.
2. Lava Man: Has been a monster in California for the past two seasons and is expected to be the main speed in this $6 million contest. Can he carry his form to Kentucky?
3. David Junior: Excellent form on turf in Europe, Dubai, and the Orient, and he is bred well enough for dirt to suggest he may follow in the tradition of Giant's Causeway and Sakhee to be a formidable contender at 10 furlongs on dirt.

SundayStar · #2 09-23-2006, 12:13 AM

you have several nice horses listed. have you ever heard of hurricane run?

SundayStar · #3 09-23-2006, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think this was copy and pasted from the DRF, it says it in the first line

gotcha. i guess the question is for them.

blackthroatedwind · #4 09-23-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think this was copy and pasted from the DRF, it says it in the first line

Yes, and it should NOT have been reprinted here.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #5 09-23-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yes, and it should NOT have been reprinted here.

And why is that oh king of the message board?

dalakhani · #6 09-23-2006, 12:27 AM

I dont know what they are thinking in the turf. 2/3 american based? when is the last time THAT happened?

blackthroatedwind · #7 09-23-2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

And why is that oh king of the message board?

Don't be a smart ass. It's a copywrite infringement. I don't make the laws.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #8 09-23-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Don't be a smart ass. It's a copywrite infringement. I don't make the laws.

LMFAO, are you going to make needless comments like that on every post that is taken from the DRF, BH, or TT cause you'll be typing all day.

blackthroatedwind · #9 09-23-2006, 12:35 AM

I have a distinct feeling that the person running this site, you know the one you are a guest of, won't find it as amusing as you.

repent · #10 09-23-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

I dont know what they are thinking in the turf. 2/3 american based? when is the last time THAT happened?

actually in 2004 at Lone Star BTN and Kittens Joy ran 1-2.
but I get your point and totally agree.
it only happened in 2004 b/c the BC was at Lone Star and most Euros had no interest in making the trip.
I think Powerscourt was the best Euro to show up, and he was better in the States anyway.

Repent

repent · #11 09-23-2006, 01:55 AM

are you guys serious about not being able to copy and paste from other websites?
Kasept does not want us doing that?
I have not done it yet but Im sure I have done it plenty of times in the past on the ESPN board.

thats cool, but someone let me know if no informational content from other sources can be posted on this forum.

thanks.

Repent

DiscreetCat=Monster · #12 09-23-2006, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SundayStar

you have several nice horses listed. have you ever heard of hurricane run?

You ever heard of the DRF or can you not read?

DiscreetCat=Monster · #13 09-23-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by repent

are you guys serious about not being able to copy and paste from other websites?
Kasept does not want us doing that?
I have not done it yet but Im sure I have done it plenty of times in the past on the ESPN board.

thats cool, but someone let me know if no informational content from other sources can be posted on this forum.

thanks.

Repent

Dude i pay $800 a year i am gonna post what ever i want!

DiscreetCat=Monster · #14 09-23-2006, 02:41 AM

At $800 a year if i want my peps at the message board to have the info than thats my deal. I am not stealing it and i am not charging for it. I am just sharing it with you should be thank full I am the one picking up the bill

dalakhani · #15 09-23-2006, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by repent

actually in 2004 at Lone Star BTN and Kittens Joy ran 1-2.
but I get your point and totally agree.
it only happened in 2004 b/c the BC was at Lone Star and most Euros had no interest in making the trip.
I think Powerscourt was the best Euro to show up, and he was better in the States anyway.

Repent

The best bet around is boxing the euros in the bc turf races. The super paid like 2400 last year on a $24 bet.

Of course, you sometimes get the American horse that will come in and screw everything up but generally speaking i love it when patriotism takes hold and people make these asonine plays on some of these American turfers. Amazingly, it happens every year!

I remember when Peace Rules went off as the favorite in the 2003 mile although he hadnt turfed in a year and was breaking from the rail with a ton of speed to the outside of him. How about Shakespeare last year? Kittens joy was a fine horse but should he have gone off at THAT price? Remember Storming home? The list goes on and on.

This year it will be english channel that will be overbet and that horse wont hit the board.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #16 09-23-2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I have a distinct feeling that the person running this site, you know the one you are a guest of, won't find it as amusing as you.

I pay $800 a year for a DRF subscription and if i want to share it but still give them credit for it that is my deal you should read the top of the post. I never said here i wrote this. You are getting free news and bitching about it seems to me that we have ourselves a NARC.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #17 09-23-2006, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent

are you guys serious about not being able to copy and paste from other websites?
Kasept does not want us doing that?
I have not done it yet but Im sure I have done it plenty of times in the past on the ESPN board.

thats cool, but someone let me know if no informational content from other sources can be posted on this forum. eventually every track is gonna give us free replays over the web of every horse so i will save my $800

thanks.

Repent

Me too let me know so i don't renew my $800 a year subscription to DRF i will go with Brisnet or anyone else that will except $800 a year for just telling me where a horse finished.

SundayStar · #18 09-23-2006, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The best bet around is boxing the euros in the bc turf races. The super paid like 2400 last year on a $24 bet.

Of course, you sometimes get the American horse that will come in and screw everything up but generally speaking i love it when patriotism takes hold and people make these asonine plays on some of these American turfers. Amazingly, it happens every year!

I remember when Peace Rules went off as the favorite in the 2003 mile although he hadnt turfed in a year and was breaking from the rail with a ton of speed to the outside of him. How about Shakespeare last year? Kittens joy was a fine horse but should he have gone off at THAT price? Remember Storming home? The list goes on and on.

This year it will be english channel that will be overbet and that horse wont hit the board.

cacique will take a lot of american $$$$ too. probly more than english channel.

gallant bloom · #19 09-23-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SundayStar

cacique will take a lot of american $$$$ too. probly more than english channel.

and neither
will hit
the board.

SundayStar · #20 09-23-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gallant bloom

and neither
will hit
the board.

you're probly right but i have to wait and see what the entries look like first. shirocco might go in the classic. daivid junior is already committed to the classic. no heart's cry or deep impact. what other top international horse has plans for the turf besides hurricane run?