KEE SEPT SALE: DeDe Biles' Hips to Watch

[Kasept]

The Keeneland September sale is the largest auction of its kind in the world and it perennially produces some of the top prices for young horses. Following is a list of yearlings in the Sept. 10 select session in Lexington that could command the big bucks:

Hip No. 2, a filly by Tapit —Nomistakeaboutit, by Affirmed. Consigned by Clearsky Farms, agent.
“She is a nice Tapit filly that is very popular,” said Clearsky’s Ted Voute of this gray or roan yearling that is from the family of European champion Negligent. “She’s a very American type. She looks like (champion and Kentucky Derby, gr. I, winner) Winning Colors. But she’s not Caro (the sire of Winning Colors) big; she’s got a bit more refinement.”

Hip No. 8, a filly by Street Cry (IRE) —Palangana, by His Majesty. Consigned by Gainesway, agent.
“She has a big walk and she uses herself well,” said Gainesway’s Neil Howard of this chestnut yearling, which is a half sister to champion Informed Decision. “She’s a well-balanced filly.”

Hip No. 15, a colt by Distorted Humor —River’s Prayer, by Devon Lane. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent for Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings.
“He’s by Distorted Humor and out of a really strong, good-looking (grade I-winning) mare; it’s just a great combination,” said Taylor Made’s Frank Taylor of this chestnut yearling. “He’s really strong and mature-looking.”

Hip No. 16, a filly by Empire Maker—Rutherienne, by Pulpit . Consigned by Stone Farm, agent.
“She is a beautiful filly that has a great walk and a wonderful temperament,” said Stone Farm’s Arthur B. Hancock III of this dark bay or brown yearling that is the first foal out of a grade I winner. “She really is nice.”

Hip No. 23, a filly by Dixie Union—Silence Dogood, by Grand Slam . Consigned by Twin Creeks Farm.
“She’s a very elegant, speedy type; we’ve had a lot of interest in her,” said Twin Creeks’ Kim Gullatt of this dark bay or brown yearling, which is out of a stakes winner.

Hip No. 27, a filly by Indian Charlie —Stop Traffic, by Cure the Blues. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent.
“She’s just really balanced and really racy-looking; she’s got a great neck and shoulder,” said Taylor Made’s Frank Taylor of this bay yearling, which is out of a grade I winner and is a half sister to the stakes-placed winner Into My Soul. “She’s just a nice filly.”

Hip No. 33, a filly by Giant's Causeway —Swan Nebula, by Seeking the Gold. Consigned by Paramount Sales, agent.
“She is an absolutely beautiful filly with a huge walk and a lot of quality,” said Paramount’s Pat Costello of this bay yearling, which is out of a winning half sister to grade I winner Poet's Voice. “She’s a bit of a queen.”

Hip No. 40, a filly by Empire Maker—Ticker Tape, by Royal Applause. Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.
“She is a beautiful example of both her sire and her dam,” said Eaton’s Reiley McDonald of this bay yearling, which is out of a grade I winner. “She has the best walk of any horse in our barn and she is from a family that is just burgeoning right now.”

Hip No. 41, a colt by Street Cry (IRE) —Tizso, by Cee's Tizzy. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent.
“He’s a very racy-looking colt,” said Taylor Made’s Frank Taylor of this bay yearling that is a half brother to grade I winner Paynter, grade III winner Tiz West, and another stakes winner, Tizakitty. “He is very pretty for a Street Cry.”

Hip No. 43, a colt by Tapit —Touch Love, by Not For Love . Consigned by Gainesway, agent.
“He is very representative of his sire and has been very well received,” said Gainesway’s Neil Howard of this gray or roan yearling, which is out of a grade II winner and is a half brother to stakes winner Starfish Bay. “He is very athletic and has a good temperament. He has a very good shoulder, good hip, and a good walk. He’s a leggy horse.”

Hip No. 45, a filly by Smart Strike —Untouched Talent, by Storm Cat. Consigned by Brookdale Sales, agent for Audley Farm Equine.
“She’s fabulous in a lot of ways,” said Brookdale’s Joe Seitz of this bay yearling, which is out of a grade III winner and is a half sister to grade I winner Bodemeister. “She’s very athletic. She’s got a great stretch and range to her conformation. She’s got a huge walk. And she has a very live, young, exciting pedigree. She’s hopefully the kind of filly that you’ll start a broodmare band with in about three and a half years.”

Hip No. 48, a colt by Medaglia d'Oro —Welcome Surprise, by Seeking the Gold. Consigned by Lane’s End, agent.
“He is a really tough, great-walking colt,” said Lane’s End’s Bill Farish of this dark bay or brown yearling that is out of a grade III winner and is from the family of Horse of the Year and classic winner A.P. Indy(a leading sire) and classic winner Summer Squall. “He has a super pedigree, obviously.”

Hip No. 49, a colt by Smart Strike —Wile Cat, by Storm Cat. Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.
“He is a half brother to the brilliant (English group III-winning) filly Shumoos, who was second in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Sprint against colts,” said Eaton’s Reiley McDonald of this dark bay or brown yearling. “He is as close to perfect physically as you can get. He’s balanced and sound.”

Hip No. 52, a colt by Elusive Quality —Xtra Heat, by Dixieland Heat. Consigned by Woodford Thoroughbreds.
“I think he’s probably one of the best foals Xtra Heat has ever had,” said Woodford’s Matt Lyons of this chestnut yearling, which is out of a champion, is a full brother to stakes winner Elusive Heat, and is a half brother to added-money winner Southwestern Heat. “He’s a beautiful horse that is very well balanced and has a terrific walk. He’s got a little bit of his mother’s attitude.”

Hip No. 53, a filly by Unbridled's Song —A Footstep Away, by Giant's Causeway . Consigned by Romans Racing and Sales, agent.
“She’s a May foal, but she has beautiful angles and a nice, easy walk,” said Romans Racing and Sales’ Teresa Little of this gray or roan yearling, which is out of a half sister to grade II winner and stakes producer Lu Ravi. The yearling’s dam also is a half sister to the dam of champion Halfbridled.“She’s just a lovely filly with a beautiful head that has been received really well,” Little added. “She has a perfect top line and is gorgeous.”

Hip No. 57, a colt by Bernardini —Banshee Winds, by Known Fact. Consigned by Woodford Thoroughbreds.
“He’s a half brother to Banshee Breeze, who was a champion,” said Woodford’s Matt Lyons of this dark bay or brown yearling. “We’ve had some Bernardinis over the last couple of years and I think this is the best one. He’s a really beautiful horse with a lovely eye, and he’s a great mover.”

Hip No. 61, colt by Dynaformer —Brisquette, by Unbridled's Song . Consigned by Three Chimneys Sales, agent for Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings.
“Dynaformers come in all shapes and sizes, and he’s one of the real good-looking ones like Barbaro,” said Three Chimneys’ Case Clay of this bay yearling, which is a half brother to grade III winner Garden District. “He’s shown himself well and been very popular. He’s all class.”

Hip No. 64, a filly by Dynaformer —Catchascatchcan, by Pursuit of Love. Consigned by Paramount Sales, agent.
“She is a lovely walker and a lovely, quality filly,” said Paramount’s Pat Costello of this bay yearling that is out of an English group I winner and is a half sister to Irish group II winner Antonius Pius, who was second in the Breeders’ Cup Mile (gr. IT).

Hip No. 67, a colt by Smart Strike —City Beautiful, by Storm Cat. Consigned by Lane’s End, agent.
“He’s a nice, good-sized, athletic colt,” said Lane’s End’s Bill Farish of this bay yearling whose second dam is a grade I winner. “He has a great profile, and he is a really good mover.”

Hip No. 69, a colt by Tiznow —Clear Mandate, by Deputy Minister. Consigned by Lane’s End, agent.
“He’s a nice, big colt and is pretty refined for a Tiznow,” said Lane’s End’s Bill Farish of this bay yearling, which is out of a grade I winner and also is a half brother to grade III winner Newfoundland and stakes winner Full Mandate. “He is very athletic.”

Hip No. 70, a filly by Smart Strike —Cloudburst, by Storm Cat. Consigned by Denali Stud, agent.
“She has a lot of quality,” said Denali’s Craig Bandoroff of this chestnut yearling, which is out of a stakes winner that is a half sister to champion Boston Harbor. “As great a sire as Smart Strike is, a lot of times he doesn’t get you a pretty sale horse. But her dam is a beautiful mare and she kind of took her attributes and gave them to this filly.”

Hip No. 72, a colt by Bernardini —Come Together, by Dixie Union. Consigned by Gainesway, agent.
“If you look at a picture of his grandsire, A.P. Indy, you can see that he’s very like A.P. Indy,” said Gainesway’s Neil Howard of this bay yearling that is out of a winning half sister to grade III winner The Pamplemousse . “He has a good walk, good neck, good balance, and a good hip. He’s very difficult to fault on conformation.”

Hip No. 78, a colt by Bernardini —Devils Lake, by Lost Code. Consigned by Pauls Mill, agent for Hargus and Sandra Sexton and Steven and Brandi Nicholson.
“He looks like his sire; he’s very much a true Bernardini, which is a good thing because Bernardini is a good-looking horse,” said Pauls Mill’s Ben Walden of this dark bay or brown yearling, which is a half brother to grade I winner Gayego .

Hip No. 81, a filly by Divine Park —Don’t Trick Her, by Mazel Trick. Consigned by Brereton C. Jones/Airdrie Stud, agent.
“She’s a May filly, and she’s still got a little maturing to do, but she’s just got that perfect frame you know is going to fill out right,” said Airdrie’s Bret Jones of this chestnut yearling, which is a half sister to grade I winners Check the Label and Include Me Out. “We believe she is a real athlete.”

Hip No. 84, a colt by Galileo—Egyptian Queen, by Storm Cat. Consigned by Man O War Farm, agent for Michael and Reiko Baum.
“He is just a fantastic horse,” said Michael Baum of this dark bay or brown yearling that is out of a half sister to grade II winner A. P. Warrior. “I say words about him that I’ve never said about other horses. Everybody loves him. He does everything right. He’s smart and strong. You can’t get him tired. He’s bigger than he looks because he’s well-proportioned.”

Hip No. 94, a colt by War Front —Gold Vault, by Arch . Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.
“He’s a kind of typical War Front, and his head’s a whole lot like lot his broodmare sire’s,” said Claiborne’s Dell Hancock of this dark bay or brown yearling, which is a half brother to grade I winner Contested. “He was a nice horse at the farm, but what’s been nice about him here is he just seems like he loves it. He shows well and he walks well. I hope they (the buyers) like him. I think he’s special.”

Hip No. 100, a colt by Smart Strike —Hollywood Story, by Wild Rush. Consigned by Hill ‘n’ Dale Sales Agency, agent.
This dark bay or brown yearling is out of a grade I winner and is a half brother to the stakes-placed winner Hoorayforhollywood (by Storm Cat).

Hip No. 102, a colt by Sea The Stars—Ice Mint, by Awesome Again . Consigned by Clearsky Farms, agent.
“He was bred by Mick Kinane, the jockey,” said Clearsky’s Ted Voute of this bay yearling that is a member of his sire’s first crop. “He’s a top, top horse physically that is very similar to his sire. But he’s probably got a little bit more refinement. He’s got the bone and he’s got the look, and he’s a great walker.”

Hip No. 109, a filly by A.P. Indy—Lacadena, by Fasliyev. Consigned by Denali Stud, agent.
“She’s a big, pretty filly and has got as good a pedigree as you’re going to find in the stud book,” said Denali’s Craig Bandoroff of this bay yearling, which is from the family of Kentucky Broodmare of the Year Better Than Honour, champion and Belmont Stakes (gr. I) winner Rags to Riches, and Belmont Stakes (gr. I) winner Jazil . “She’s a serious horse for a guy who wants a filly and then wants to have a good broodmare after she races.”

Hip No. 110, a filly by Galileo—La Chunga, by More Than Ready . Consigned by Lane’s End, agent.
“She has a great walk and is a very pretty filly,” said Lane’s End’s Bill Farish of this bay yearling, which is out of an English group III winner.

Hip No. 111, a colt by A.P. Indy—Lady Lochnivar, by Lord At War. Consigned by Elm Tree Farm, agent for Mr. and Mrs. Larry D. Williams.
“He’s a very good horse and has been good since day one,” said Elm Tree’s Jody Huckabay of this chestnut yearling, which is a full brother to grade II winner Master Command and a half brother to Canadian and U.S grade III winner Aurora Lights. “He’s a phenomenal mover and I think he’ll pass the vet for everybody. Based on conformation, pedigree, attitude, and athletic ability, he’s the best horse I’ve ever been around since I’ve been in the business.”

Hip No. 117, a filly by Empire Maker—Lochnivar’s Gold, by Seeking the Gold. Consigned by Elm Tree Farm, agent for Mr. and Mrs. Larry D. Williams.
“She’s a very, very beautiful filly and a great mover,” said Elm Tree’s Jody Huckabay of this dark bay or brown yearling that is the first foal out of a winning half sister to grade II winner Master Command and Canadian and U.S. grade III winner Aurora Lights. “She’s been very, very well received and has never has turned a hair. She is absolutely a complete professional.”

Hip No. 123, a colt by Tiznow —Memories of Silver, by Silver Hawk. Consigned by Darby Dan Farm, agent.
“He’s an absolutely beautiful-bodied colt,” said Darby Dan’s Renee Logan of this bay yearling, which is out of a grade I winner and is a half brother to grade I winner Winter Memories and two other stakes winners. “He has a wonderful disposition and a beautiful eye. He looks like he could be a grass or a dirt horse. He’s taken all this in stride. His family speaks for itself. He’s really a cool horse.”

Hip No. 124, a filly by A.P. Indy—Million Gift, by Sunday Silence. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent.
“She’s a real classy-looking filly with great balance and a great walk,” said Taylor Made’s Frank Taylor of this bay yearling that is out of a half sister to champion Sky Beauty and is a full sister to stakes winner Million Seller. “I’ve had a lot of that family and she kind of reminds me of (her second dam) Maplejinksy (who was a grade I winner). She’s a special filly.”

Hip No. 125, a filly by A.P. Indy—Miraculous Miss, by Mr. Greeley. Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.
“She’s as good a physical specimen as you could find by any sire,” said Eaton’s Reiley McDonald of this bay yearling, which is out of a grade II winner. “She is a top A.P. Indy filly out of a great race mare that has an air about her on the sale grounds that she knows she’s something special.”

Hip No. 128, A. P. Sonata, a filly by A.P. Indy—Moonlight Sonata, by Carson City. Consigned by Mill Ridge Sales, agent.
“She is a May foal, so there’s still a lot to come with her (physically), but she’s very, very elegant,” said Mill Ridge’s Headley Bell of this bay yearling, which out of a grade III winner and is a half sister to grade II winners Wilburn and Beethoven. “She has wonderful presence, is by the right horse at the moment, and has a very solid family. She’s got what you’re looking for.”

Hip No. 130, a colt by Pulpit —Ms. Cornstalk, by Indian Charlie. Consigned by Brereton C. Jones/Airdrie Stud, agent.
“He is out of a mare that is 8-years-old and has already had two (Canadian) champions (Biofuel and Tu Endie Wei),” said Airdrie’s Bret Jones. “We’ve never had a mare at the farm do what she has done and this colt is just exceptional. He is exactly what we believe the top buyers are looking for. He is a big, strong, well-balanced horse that acts like he wants to win some important races.”

Hip No. 131, a colt by Distorted Humor —Mushka, by Empire Maker. Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.
“I’ve seen most of the best colts in the sale. And not to take anything away from the other colts, this horse is in a different league,” said Eaton’s Reiley McDonald of the bay yearling, which is the first foal out of a grade I winner. “He has the size and scope of his mother, who ran on turf, dirt, and all-weather (surfaces). And he’s by the good American dirt sire Distorted Humor. He’s a lovely colt.”

Hip No. 132, a colt by Distorted Humor —My Miss Storm Cat, by Sea of Secrets. Consigned by Gainesway, agent for Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings.
“His pedigree speaks for itself,” said Gainesway’s Neil Howard of this bay yearling, which is a half brother to champion My Miss Aurelia. “He’s a strong, athletic horse. He has a chance to hit a home run.

[freddymo]

If you bought every single one of these yearlings how many G1 wins would you have in 3 years? My guess is the under over would be 3.5 under minus 125.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

If you bought every single one of these yearlings how many G1 wins would you have in 3 years? My guess is the under over would be 3.5 under minus 125.

Hips 27 and 130 should account for at least 10.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

If you bought every single one of these yearlings how many G1 wins would you have in 3 years? My guess is the under over would be 3.5 under minus 125.

Here's a page from KEE website about Labor Day weekend stakes runners that were (mostly) September sales grads... You'd have to look up the hips to see which were Book 1/2 types.


SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1

WOODWARD S. (G1), Saratoga, 1 1/8 Miles, 3YOs & Up

TRICKMEISTER, 5YO horse by Proud Citizen – Afternoon Trick ($95,000 RNA, 2008 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Brereton Jones/Airdrie Stud, agent) O- IEAH Stables, Pegasus Holding Group Stables & Mark Frimmel; B- Brereton Jones & Tim Thornton (KY); T- Richard Dutrow Jr.

STAY THIRSTY, 4YO colt by Bernardini – Marozia ($160,000, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Glennwood Farm, agent; Buyer- Whitehorse Stables) O- Repole Stables; B- John Gunther & John Darren Gunther (KY); T- Todd Pletcher

TO HONOR AND SERVE, 4YO colt by Bernardini – Pilfer ($250,000, 2008 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent, Buyer- Sommer Smith, agent; $575,000, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent, Buyer- Live Oak Plantation) O- Live Oak Plantation; B- Twin Creeks Farm, Larry Byer & Rancho San Miguel (KY); T- Bill Mott



FOREGO (G1), Saratoga, 7 Furlongs, 3YOs & Up

JERSEY TOWN, 6YO horse by Speightstown – Jersey Girl ($95,000 RNA, 2007 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Darby Dan Farm, agent; $170,000 RNA, 2008 April 2YO in Training, Consignor- McKathan Bros, agent) O/B- Charles Fipke (KY); T- Barclay Tagg

SHACKLEFORD, 4YO colt by Forestry – Oatsee ($275,000 RNA, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Belvedere Farm, agent) O- Michael Lauffer, W.D. Cubbedge & Phillips Racing Stable; B- Mike Lauffer & Bill Cubbedge (KY); T- Dale Romans

PACIFIC OCEAN, 5YO gelding by Ghostzapper – Miss Salsa ($300,000, 2008 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Paramount Sales, agent for Swordlestown Stud; Buyer- Ben Glass, agent) O- Dennis Narlinger; B- Swordlestown Stud (KY); T- Richard Dutrow Jr.

HAMAZING DESTINY, 6YO horse by Salt Lake – Ms Proud Destiny ($70,000, 2007 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Beau Lane Bloodstock, agent; Buyer- Hugh Robertson, agent for Barry Butzow) O- Barry Butzow & Westrock Stables; B- Destinaire Farm (KY); T- D. Wayne Lukas



DEL MAR DEBUTANTE (G1), Del Mar, 7 Furlongs, 2YOs

MISS EMPIRE, 2YO filly by Empire Maker – Miss Excitement ($85,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Gainesway, agent; Buyer- G. Ray Trisler & Mays Farm) O- Barber or Barber or Tsujihara; B- Dan Cassella & Frank Cassella (KY); T- P. Miller

SPEEDINTHRUTHECITY, 2YO filly by City Zip – License to Speed ($20,000 RNA, 2010 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent) O- Barber or Barber or Tsujihara; B- Joe Parker (KY); T- P. Miller

MECHAYA, 2YO filly by City Zip – Sago ($32,000 RNA, 2011 Jan Horses of All Ages, Consignor- Shannondoe Farm, agent) O- Doubledown Stables; B- James Everatt, Janeane Everatt & J. Arika Everatt-Meeuse (ON); T- John Sadler

EXECUTIVEPRIVILEGE, 2YO filly by First Samurai – Refugee ($23,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Betz Thoroughbreds, agent; Buyer- Hubert Guy, agent) O- Karl Watson, Michael Pegram & Paul Weitman; B- Betz/DJ Stable/Kidder/J. Betz/Robenalt (KY); T- Bob Baffert

BEHOLDER, 2YO filly by Henny Hughes – Leslie’s Lady ($180,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Clarkland Farm; Buyer- Spendthrift Farm) O- Spendthrift Farm; B- Clarkland Farm (KY); T- Richard Mandella



BERNARD BARUCH H. (G2), Saratoga, 1 1/16 Miles (T), 3YOs & Up

CRIMSON CHINA, 4YO colt by Giant’s Causeway – Parisian Affair ($120,000 RNA, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Paramount Sales, agent) O- Team Valor International; B- Plantation Stud/Silver Springs Stud Farm (KY); T- H. Graham Motion

DOMINUS, 4YO ridgling by Smart Strike – Cuando ($270,000 RNA, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Eaton Sales, agent) O- George Bolton, Stonestreet Stables & Spendthrift Farm; B- Edward P. Evans (VA); T- Todd Pletcher

GUYS REWARD, 5YO horse by Grand Reward – Beach View ($14,000 RNA, 2007 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Legacy Bloodstock, agent; $27,000 RNA, 2008 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Carmichael Sales, agent) O- Michael Bruder; B- Haymarket Farm (KY); T- Dale Romans

ALMA D’ORO, 6YO horse by Medaglia d’Oro – Brenda D S ($75,000, 2006 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Glennwood Farm, agent; Buyer- Gary Stevens, agent for Mary Ellen Bourque) O- Bourque Goldstein Thoroughbreds; B- Fred Sahadi (KY): T- Todd Pletcher



WASHINGTON PARK H. (G3), Arlington, 1 1/8 Miles, 3YOs & Up

MIDDIE, 4YO gelding by Officer – Sweettrickydancer ($45,000 RNA, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Eaton Sales, agent) O- G. Watts Humphrey Jr. & St. George Farm Racing; B- St. George Farm (KY); T- P. Oliver

HATTAASH, 5YO gelding by Strong Hope – Lotta Rhythm ($290,000, 2007 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- James Keogh/Grovendale, agent; Buyer- Shadwell Estate Company) O- KFCB; B- Dolphus Morrison (KY); T- C. Bettis

PRAYER FOR RELIEF, 4YO colt by Jump Start – Sparklin Lil ($39,000 RNA, 2008 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- War Horse Place; $80,000, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Legacy Bloodstock, agent, Buyer- Zayat Stables) O- Zayat Stables; B- G.R. Aschinger (KY); T- Steve Asmussen

POOL PLAY, 7YO horse by Silver Deputy – Zuri Ridge ($60,000, 2005 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Windfields Farm, agent, Buyer- Aspiration Stud; $625,000, 2006 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Gracefield, Buyer- Geathers Racing Stable; $180,000, 2008 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- WinStar Racing, agent, Buyer- Bill Farish) O- William S. Farish Jr.; B- Windfields Farm (ON); T- Mark Casse



SEAWAY S. (G3), Woodbine, 7 Furlongs, 3YOs & Up, F&M

ZERMATT, 5YO mare by Tiznow – Sisti’s Pride ($340,000, 2008 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent for Aaron & Marie Jones; Buyer- Blue Heaven Farm) O- Blue Heaven Farm; B- Aaron & Marie Jones (KY); T- Todd Pletcher

GOLD DUST LADY, 5YO mare by Chapel Royal – Papier Mache ($37,000, 2008 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Flying High Farm – DRE Bloodstock, agent) O- Carlo D’Amato; B- Flying High Farm (KY); T- W. Wilcox



CLIFF HANGER S. (G3), Monmouth, 1 Mile (T), 3YOs & Up

GLASS ART, 4YO gelding by Hennessy – Yard Art ($47,000 RNA, 2010 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- WinStar Racing, agent) O- Red Oak Stable; B- Glencrest Farm (KY); T- G. Sacco

UPGRADE, 5YO gelding by Saint Liam – Emily Ring ($170,000, 2008 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Lane’s End, agent; Buyer- Ben Glass, agent) O- Dennis Narlinger; B- Mike Anderson Thoroughbreds (KY); T- Michelle Nihei



SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 2

SPINAWAY S. (G1), Saratoga, 7 Furlongs, 2YO Fillies

SWEET SHIRLEY MAE, 2YO filly by Broken Vow – Joyful Chaos ($60,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Longfield Farm, agent; Buyer- Cromwell Bloodstock, agent) O- Ice Wine Stable; B- Lewis Schaffel (KY); T- Wesley Ward



DEL MAR DERBY (G2), Del Mar, 1 1/8 Miles (T), 3YOs

ALL SQUARED AWAY, 3YO gelding by Bellamy Road – Squared ($3,000, 2009 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Indian Creek, agent; Buyer- Mikhail Yanakov) O- Brous Stable & Wachtel Stable; B- Gracefield Breeders (KY); T- P. Miller

MY BEST BROTHER, 3YO colt by Stormy Atlantic – Wilshewed ($95,000 RNA, 2009 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Valkyre Stud, agent) O- Currin or Eisman; B- Al Eisman & William Currin (KY); T- Julio Canani



SARANAC S. (G3), Saratoga, 1 1/8 Miles (T), 3YOs

EXCAPER, 3YO colt by Exchange Rate – Ada Ruckus ($30,000 RNA, 2010 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Castle Park Farm, agent) O- Richard Kaster & Frederick Wieting; B – Richard & Nancy Kaster (KY); T- Ian Black

QUICK WIT, 3YO colt by Sharp Humor – Thanks the Academy ($32,000, 2011 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- WinStar Racing, agent; Buyer- Dale Romans, agent) O- Michael Bruder; B- WinStar Farm (KY); T- Dale Romans

SET THE SAIL, 3YO colt by Mizzen Mast – Tartufi ($34,000 RNA, 2010 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Eaton Sales, agent) O/B- Elisabeth Alexander (KY); T- Charles Lopresti



SAPLING S. (G3), Monmouth, 6 Furlongs, 2YOs

BOBCAT JIM, 2YO colt by Sharp Humor – Glimmer ($165,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent; Buyer- DWF) O- Dream Walkin Farms; B- WinStar Farm (KY); T- K. Smith

OVERANALYZE, 2YO colt by Dixie Union – Unacloud ($380,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent; Buyer- Repole Stables) O- Repole Stables; B- Diamond A. Racing Corp (KY); T- Todd Pletcher

SPECIAL JO, 2YO colt by Johannesburg – Quiet City ($40,000, 2010 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Nardelli Sales, agent; Buyer- Albert Davis) O- Mike McCarty; B- John Clarke, Kim & Rodney Nardelli (KY); T- Steve Asmussen



MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 3



THREE CHIMNEYS HOPEFUL S. (G2), Saratoga, 7 Furlongs, 2YOs

SHOW SOME MAGIC, 2YO colt by Any Given Saturday – Whirlwind Charlott ($70,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Woodford Thoroughbreds; Buyer- Kirk Robison) O- Kirk & Judy Robison; B- Woodford Thoroughbreds (KY); T- Steve Asmussen

BERN IDENTITY, 2YO colt by Bernstein – Maddalena ($43,000, 2011 Jan Horses of All Ages, Consignor- Paramount Sales, agent, Buyer- Dundrum Farm; $75,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Hunter Valley Farm, agent, Buyer- George & Lori Hall) O- George & Lori Hall; B- Galleria Bloodstock, Crosshaven Bloodstock, Petaluma Bloodstock, et al (KY); T- Kelly Breen

ROYAL ART, 2YO colt by Afleet Alex – Prall Street ($410,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- James Herbener Jr., agent; Buyer- Robert Baker) O- Robert Baker & William Mack; B- William Graves & Dennis Lynch (KY); T- D. Wayne Lukas

OVERANALYZE, 2YO colt by Dixie Union – Unacloud ($380,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent; Buyer- Repole Stables) O- Repole Stables; B- Diamond A. Racing Corp (KY); T- Todd Pletcher

VEGAS NO SHOW, 2YO colt by Hard Spun – The Hess Express ($105,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- James Herbener Jr.; Buyer- George & Lori Hall) O- George & Lori Hall; B- Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings (KY); T- Kelly Breen

SHANGHAI BOBBY, 2YO colt by Harlan’s Holiday – Steelin’ ($105,000, 2011 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Stonehaven Steadings; Buyer- Starlight) O- Starlight Racing; B- Stonehaven Steadings (KY); T- Todd Pletcher



YELLOW RIBBON H. (G2), Del Mar, 1 1/16 Miles (T), 3YOs & Up, F&M

COSSET, 5YO mare by Mizzen Mast – Corsini (GB) ($7,000, 2011 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Mill Ridge Sales, agent; Buyer- Elliot Mavorah) O- Brave MBA Stable; B- Juddmonte Farms (KY); T- H. Palma

CITY TO CITY, 5YO mare by City Zip – Stormbow ($15,000, 2007 Nov Breeding Stock, Consignor- Legacy Bloodstock, agent; Buyer- Ronald Hagen) O- DeBurgh or Hollendorfer or DeDominico; B- Dr. Michael Cavey Jr. (KY); T- Jerry Hollendorfer



GLEN FALLS H. (G3), Saratoga, 1 3/8 Miles (T), 3YOs & Up, F&M

CASH FOR CLUNKERS, 4YO filly by Tiznow – Miss Dixie Dreamer ($25,000, 2009 Sept Yearling, Consignor- Mineola Farm, agent; Buyer- Hartley/De Renzo) O- Klaravich Stables & William Lawrence; B- Mineola Farm, Jim Geisler & David Houchin (KY); T- Richard Violette Jr.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

If you bought every single one of these yearlings how many G1 wins would you have in 3 years? My guess is the under over would be 3.5 under minus 125.

Here's Stakes winning grads..
http://flex.keeneland.com/grads/grads.html

[freddymo]

If you bought 18000 foals from 4 years of keeneland sales you would have a result that is indeed representitive of your post.

If you buy all the yealings listed in the spotlight you would be fortunate to win 4 G1 races in three years..Dont you agree? Do you really think 2 of these will win more then 2 G1 races in their careers?

When you sell 70% of the best breed TB's each year shouldn't at least as many be G1 winners?

My point, which is a good one, is most of these special foals will be frogs. These "special walks", "amazing character", "superior scope" stuff is beyond humorous.

How does Nick Zito find G1 winners for 100 to 300k and others find frog after frog at 1mil to 3 mi.. Has Besilu won a race yet with a yearling they purchased?

[Calzone Lord]

I did a board search for Dede Biles and this was her first 'Horses to Watch' list from a sale.

Since these horses are all 3-year-olds in the second half of the season now ... I thought I'd find out the names and record of the 28 horses.

The information is below.

Following is a list of horses that buyers and consignors think could bring big prices during the second session of the Fasig-Tipton Kentucky July select yearling sale July 14 in Lexington:


Hip No. 208, a colt by Tale of the Cat – Elusive Song, by Elusive Quality. Consigned by Gainesway, agent for Eldon Farm Equine. This bay yearling is from the family of grade II winners Tomorrows Cat and Teton Forest.


Hip No. 221, a filly by Malibu Moon – Five Star Dream, by Two Punch. Consigned by Candyland Farm.

“She is a big, strong, elegant, athletic, powerful filly that we raised, and she’s been brought up the right way,” said Candyland’s farm manager, Mike Palmer of this dark bay or brown yearling, whose dam is a stakes winner. “I think that whoever gets her is going to be able to go on and do whatever they want to with her. She’s been well-received, and she’s been handling things very, very well.”


Hip No. 229, a colt by Elusive Quality – Freudenau, by Meadowlake. Consigned by Brookdale Sales, agent for Epona Equine. This bay yearling is a half brother to the winner Danon Isao (by Swain), who was stakes-placed in Japan.


Hip No. 231, a colt by Medaglia d'Oro – Future Act, by Known Fact. Consigned by Denali Stud, agent.

“He’s a Louisiana-bred and that seems to have caught their (the prospective buyers’) attention,” said Denali’s Craig Bandoroff of this half bother to stakes winners Immediate Reaction (by Cozzene) and Cliffy’s Future (by The Cliff's Edge ). “He’s a big, good-looking horse. He probably has enough pedigree and a good enough phyiscal to have gone to Saratoga (for the Fasig-Tipton select yearling sale in New York), but we just decided to stay here and try to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.”


Hip No. 232, a colt by Malibu Moon – Futures Market, by Unbridled. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent.

“This colt just looks really fast and has got great balance, and his sire is really hot,” said Taylor Made Sales Agency’s Mark Taylor. “He’s the prototype of what you want at this sale. He’s very forward looking, and he’s got a great body and a great temperament.”


Hip No. 243, a colt by Sky Mesa – Hello Barbara Sue, by Dehere. Consigned by Gainesway, agent.
This yearling is a half brother to grade III winner Buddy’s Humor (by Distorted Humor ) and his dam is a half sister to grade II winner Diamond on the Run (by Kris S.) and two other added-money winners.


Hip No. 245, a filly by Medaglia d'Oro – High in the Park, by Ascot Knight. Consigned by Brereton C. Jones/Airdrie Stud, agent.

“She not only has all the physical attributes, but the pedigree attributes and a totally clean vet sheet,” said Jones of this half sister to grade I winner Divine Park (by Chester House). “So, hopefully, all the stars are aligned; it just depends on how strong the market is or isn’t.”


Hip No. 252, a colt by Malibu Moon – Initial, by Our Emblem. Consigned by Moonstone Sales, agent.
This bay yearling is a half brother to the winner Primer Querubin (by Toccet ), who was stakes-placed in Puerto Rico.


Hip No. 262, a colt by With Distinction – Lady Cheryl, by Williamstown. Consigned by Legacy Bloodstock, agent.

“He’s got the strength of the Storm Cat line with stretch,” said Legacy’s Tommy Eastham of this dark bay or brown yearling, whose dam was a stakes winner. “He’s a great mover by an exciting young sire. This horse has a high energy level. He’ll show himself great at seven o’clock in the morning, and he’ll do the same at seven o’clock at night.”


Hip No. 271, a filly by Lemon Drop Kid – Little Cat Feet, by Tale of the Cat. Consigned by Warrendale Sales, agent.

This filly is a half-sister to the winner Hyperlink (by Toccet), and their dam is a half sister to two stakes winners, Arch Rebel (by Arch ) and On My Dime (by Mizzen Mast ). Their dam also is a half sister to the stakes-placed winner Livin for Love (by Tactical Advantage), who is a stakes producer.


Hip No. 274, a colt by Unbridled's Song – Lost in the Storm, by Storm Cat. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent.

“I think most people realize how great Unbridled’s Song has crossed with Storm Cat,” said Taylor Made’s Mark Taylor. “This colt is a very good representative of what that cross usually gets. He’s gray like Unbridled’s Song and he’s got some leg, but he’s got a real Storm Cat kind of body on him and looks precocious. I think he’s one of the nicer colts we have in the consignment plus he’s got more sire power than just about anything in the sale.”


Hip No. 279, Alwayslookingforme, a filly by With Distinction – Magic Merger, by Corporate Report. Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.

“She has all the height and scope of her daddy, but is a very effeminate filly with a lovely, long stride,” said Eaton Sales’ Reiley McDonald of this half sister to grade I winner Hooh Why (by Cloud Hopping) and stakes winner Rumbling Cloud (by Cloud Hopping). “Apparently her mother can’t miss (as a producer).”


Hip No. 283, a filly by Harlan's Holiday – Malibu Karen, by Seeking the Gold. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent for Spendthrift Farm.

“She’s a nice physical with a strong body, and she’s very well balanced,” said Taylor Made’s Frank Taylor of this bay yearling, whose dam is a half sister to grade I winner Marquetry (by Conquistador Cielo), a full sister to French group II winner Spain Lane, and a half sister to Reggie V, the dam of grade II winner Five Star Day.


Hip No. 285http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/new...ote=1&p=889304, Freedoms Pride, a filly by Proud Citizen – Marialua, by Maria’s Mon. Consigned by Select Sales, agent.

“She’s a lovely, athletic, racy filly that is very, very typical of the sire. She’s a real quality filly,” said Select Sales’ James Keogh of this bay yearling, whose dam is a half sister to Canadian graded winner Honolua Storm(by Old Trieste).


Hip No. 292, a colt by Speightstown – Merit, by Meadowlake. Consigned by Dromoland Farm, agent.
This chestnut yearling is a half brother to the winner Quite a Rush, who is stakes-placed.


Hip No. 293, a colt by Medaglia s'Oro – Merry Me in Spring, by Wekiva Springs. Consigned by Gainesway, agent.

“He’s a very big, strong, sound-looking, beautiful-moving colt,” said Gainesway’s Brian Graves of this gray or roan yearling, whose dam was a stakes winner. “He’s a very athletic colt by a stallion that has, obviously, risen to the top.”


Hip No. 301, a colt by Exchange Rate – Miss Delta Dawn, by Thirty Six Red. Consigned by Warrendale Sales, agent for Whitechurch Bloodstock.

This bay yearling is a half brother to stakes winner Langston (by Pine Bluff) and the winner Mississippi Madam (by Smoke Glacken ), who is stakes-placed.


Hip No. 305, a filly by Speightstown – Miss Stormy Pick, by Storm Creek. Consigned by Paramount Sales, agent.

“A lot of people have remarked she’s very much like Stormy Pick (a grade I winner who is a half sister to this dark bay or brown yearling’s dam),” said Paramount’s Pat Costello. “She’s a quality filly with a very nice walk to her.”


Hip No. 308, a filly by Put It Back – Miz Betty Grace, by Matty G. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent.

“She’s a very nice filly that’s got a long, clean neck on her, and she’s got a great shoulder and hip,” said Taylor Made’s Mark Taylor of this bay yearling, who is from the family of grade II winner Warbling (by Unbridled’s Song). “She looks like a runner.”


Hip No. 327, a colt by Successful Appeal – Racing Quality, by Elusive Quality. Consigned by Eaton Sales, agent.

“Successful Appeal is the leading sire of 2-year-olds in the country, and this horse is a great example of what the Successful Appeals should look like except for the fact that he has a little more length. That would lead you to believe that he’s built to carry his speed over a distance,” said Eaton’s Reiley McDonald. “He’s a very smooth, very correct horse with a great shoulder and a massive hip.”


Hip No. 330, a filly by Rock Hard Ten – Requesting More, by Norquester. Consigned by Bluewater Sales, agent. This filly is out of a stakes winner and is a half sister to three winners.


Hip No. 342, a filly by Dixie Union – Santa Rosa Island, by Valiant Nature. Consigned by Dromoland Farm, agent. This bay yearling’s dam is a half sister to the dam of champion and dual classic winner Afleet Alex (by Northren Afleet) and another stakes producer, Cue the Groom.


Hip No. 346, a filly by Indian Charlie – See Moon, by Deputy Minister. Consigned by Denali Stud, agent.

“She’s a big, pretty, correct, good-looking filly,” said Denali’s Craig Bandoroff. “I think she’s the right kind of horse in the right kind of sale.”


Hip No. 365, a colt by El Corredor – Spikes, by Dixie Union . Consigned by Paramount Sales, agent.

“He’s a big, strong colt with a good body,” said Paramount’s Pat Costello. “It’s hard to pick on him. He seems to be on everybody’s list.”


Hip No. 382, a filly by Giant's Causeway – Tatou, by El Corredor. Consigned by Highclere Sales, agent.

“She’s a lovely filly, and she’s never had a problem,” said Highclere’s Jeffry Morris of this half sister to added-money winner Audacious Chloe (by More Than Ready ). “She’s come in here and shown herself well. The traffic and the interest have been very supportive, so we’re optimistic. She’s everything you want her to be. She’s got size and she’s got bone, and she’s been nice since day one.”


Hip No. 390, a colt by Malibu Moon – Trisha Quick, by Deputy Minister. Consigned by Select Sales, agent.

“I love his stallion, and I love the fact that Malibu Moon moves his mares up,” said Select Sales’ Carrie Brogden. “This colt looks just like Malibu Moon, to me. He has been uncomplicated his whole life; he’s never had a bandage on or had a ding. He’s never been sick. He’s just been one of those horses that’s gone through his life and done what he’s needed to do.”


Hip No. 392, a filly by Empire Maker – Turn to Lass, by Bright Launch. Consigned by Hurstland Farm, agent. This bay yearling’s dam is a full sister to grade III winner Spotsgone and stakes winner Launch a Double.


Hip No. 404, a filly by Indian Charlie – West’s Secret, by West by West. Consigned by Mulholland Springs.

“She’s a very lovely filly, and she’s very pleasant-minded,” said Mulholland Springs’ Martha Jane Mulholland of this bay yearling, whose dam is an added-money winner and a half sister to grade II winner Top Secret (by Afleet). “She was very easy to work with and get fit for the sale, and she moves beautifully.”

The first horse (Tale of the Cat out of Elusive Song) is named Sing Song Cat. 0-for-12 lifetime. Finished 9th in a maiden claiming race at Lone Star Park last time out.

The second horse (sold for 225K) is named Stellabymoonlight -- she is 0-for-6 lifetime. Last seen running 5th beaten 8.5 lengths in a 5.5 furlong MSW turf race at Saratoga.

The third horse is named Venture World. This Elusive Quality colt is 1-for-8 lifetime and was last seen running 3rd in a 20K N2L claiming race.

The fourth horse is named Battle Act. Starlight racing bought this son of Madaglia D'Oro. He won a $12,500 N2L claiming race at Louisiana Downs last time out.

The fifth horse is named Legislature. This son of Malibu Moon out of an Unbridled mare is still unraced.

The sixth horse is named Monty Boy. This horse is also still unraced.

The seventh horse is named Wahoo Gold. This son of Medaglia D' Oro who is a half brother to a Met Mile winner is still unraced.

The eight horse is named One Giant Leap. This son of Malibu Moon is still unraced.

The ninth horse is named Andrsondistinction. She is 0-for-2 lifetime and "Was found in a livestock auction in Sherman, NY.. after being purchased from a similar auction in Meadville PA.. Purchased for $525 by C. Leason with intentions for eventual light riding." Meadville PA is 30 minutes from my house -- and I never even knew they had a horse acution!!

The 10th horse is named Customer Base. Finally a great buy. This Lemon Drop Kid filly sold for just $170,000 ... she has won 3 of 9 lifetime starts and was 5th in the 85K Sandy Blue Handicap at Del Mar a few weeks ago. Career earnings of $124,000 so far.

The 11th horse is Fire On Ice. Had the look of a promising horse when he won his debut big at Saratoga first-time out for John Kimmel. This son of Unbridled's Song unfortunately got hurt training for the Champagne and has not started again.

The 12th horse is named Alwayslookingforme. Just broke the maiden at Mountaineer Park in July, but hasn't run back since.

The 13th horse is named Malibu Holiday (Malibu Moon out of Seeking The Gold mare) and is 1-for-9 last time out. Last seen running 5th in a claiming race at Saratoga.

The 14th horse is named Currahee Assault -- this Proud Citizen won a $12,500 Maiden Claiming race at Parx last time out.

The 15th horse is named Speight Me. This son of Speightstown has never hit the board in 5 career starts. Was dead last at the maiden claiming level when last seen.

The 16th horse is named So Brilliant. Our first Graded Stakes winner! This son Medaglia D' Oro won the Grade 3 Hollywood Prevue for Bob Baffert by a half length over Brother Francis last November. Unfortunately, it also got hurt and hasn't run back. Has made $87,000 in career earnings. Purchased for just $200,000 out of this sale by Zayat.

The 17th horse is named Monetize the Debt and is still unraced.

The 18th horse is named Spicetown -- this daughter of Speightstown is 0-for-5 lifetime and was last seen finishing 8th in a maiden claiming race at Laurel Park.

The 19th horse is named It's Saturday Nite and is winless in two starts. Last seen finishing 3rd in a MSW at Saratoga last month.

The 20th horse is named Elusive Success. This horse is 0-for-2 lifetime and was last seen finishing 4th in a MSW race in February.

The 21st horse is a still unraced daughter of Rock Hard Ten.

The 22nd horse is named Heather's Feather and was last seen running 4th in a claiming race at Parx last November.

The 23rd horse is named Hello Charlie. This Indian Charlie out of a Deputy Minister mare is still unraced.

The 24th horse is named Powerpointer -- 1-for-11 lifetime and was last seen finishing 5th in a claiming race at Hooiser Park.

The 25th horse is named Need a Reason. This Giant's Causeway has finished 7th in MSW races in both career starts at Arlington Park.

The 26th horse is named Fly High. This son of Malibu Moon is still a maiden, but was 2nd at Hollywood Park in his only start. But that was more than 3 months ago.

The 27th horse is Conquesta. This daughter of Empire Maker is 0-for-7 lifetime and finished 12th beaten 27 lengths last out.

The 28th and final horse is named Cathy's Cornbread. This daughter of Indian Charlie finished 4th in her debut at Belmont -- but hasn't raced in almost a year and has no current workouts either.

[Calzone Lord]

Only 10 of the 28 horses have managed to win a maiden race so far.

Only 2 of the 28 horses have won an allowance race or better.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by freddymo

These "special walks", "amazing character", "superior scope" stuff is beyond humorous.

This is one of my favorites ones so far ...

“He’s got the strength of the Storm Cat line with stretch,” said Legacy’s Tommy Eastham of this dark bay or brown yearling, whose dam was a stakes winner. “He’s a great mover by an exciting young sire. This horse has a high energy level. He’ll show himself great at seven o’clock in the morning, and he’ll do the same at seven o’clock at night.”

Two years later ...

"Was found in a livestock auction in Sherman, NY.. after being purchased from a similar auction in Meadville PA.. Purchased for $525 by C. Leason with intentions for eventual light riding."

[tiggerv]

Great stuff

[Indian Charlie]

Holy shiite.

[VOL JACK]

I knew it would be bad but, did not expect that bad..

[Dahoss]

It is great stuff....but at the expense of stating the obvious, what are these people supposed to say?

"The horse looks like crap and we're just hoping someone is dumb enough to overspend on him based on our adjectives so we can further line our pockets and screw more people over."

Lots of dumb people with a lot of money burning holes in their pockets who eat that stuff up.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

If you bought 18000 foals from 4 years of keeneland sales you would have a result that is indeed representitive of your post.

If you buy all the yealings listed in the spotlight you would be fortunate to win 4 G1 races in three years..Dont you agree? Do you really think 2 of these will win more then 2 G1 races in their careers?

When you sell 70% of the best breed TB's each year shouldn't at least as many be G1 winners?

My point, which is a good one, is most of these special foals will be frogs. These "special walks", "amazing character", "superior scope" stuff is beyond humorous.

How does Nick Zito find G1 winners for 100 to 300k and others find frog after frog at 1mil to 3 mi.. Has Besilu won a race yet with a yearling they purchased?

If you're asking how I would approach it with a bankroll, my own personal inclination would be for modest priced purchases with upside deeper in the catalog. With all the Monday Stakes recaps I do with connections, I'm always struck by how many 'inexpensive' horses win well.

The watch lists that Dede Biles, Glenye Cain Oakford and the TDN people compile are simply the most recognizable siblings, pedigrees and buzz horses. They're conversation starters offering points of reference out of the hundreds, and at KEE September, thousands of pages.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Kasept

If you're asking how I would approach it with a bankroll, my own personal inclination would be for modest priced purchases with upside deeper in the catalog.

I think if you're buying at a yearling sale -- and your goal is the best possible long term ROI -- you have to go for the absolute sales topper type (if you can afford it) or just stay away from it.

That is unless you're someone who is setup to pinhook. Which is by far the best chance you have. Doing that you'd want precociously bred horses who can drill well in nine months from now.

It costs way too much to get a horse to the races to be fishing for modest priced purchases at yearling sales which have the odds way, way, way stacked against them.

The best chance for a buyer is at 2yo sales -- with modestly bred horses who work well unblinkered and sell in the $15,000 to $95,000 range. And those are hardly great investments, but you've got a good chance to win money with every single one of them if they can stay healthy...and a lot of times they don't stay healthy for very long.

However, the horses who don't perform well in the under-tack at 2yo's and have some breeding are sensational rip-offs! You'll see horses selling for $300,000 who you know have no shot of ever winning a maiden claiming race at a decent track.

[Kasept]

Only the biggest players can operate at the top end of that yearling market. There are workable plans no matter where you are on the budget scale. Depends on who you are working with too, don't you think? There are success stories taking any and every approach whether yearling or 2yo-in-training including those that have great track records picking out projectable yearlings at middle of the road prices and those buying nice bargains at a place like the Timonium sale.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Only the biggest players can operate at the top end of that yearling market. There are workable plans no matter where you are on the budget scale. Depends on who you are working with too, don't you think? There are success stories taking any and every approach whether yearling or 2yo-in-training including those that have great track records picking out projectable yearlings at middle of the road prices and those buying nice bargains at a place like the Timonium sale.

Doug just proved that Book 1 is not the top end of the market. The top end of the market is random, completely fn random. Book 1 colts are a fairy tale which is plausible, book 1 fillies have a day in the sun after you come to the conclusion they suck.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Only the biggest players can operate at the top end of that yearling market. There are workable plans no matter where you are on the budget scale. Depends on who you are working with too, don't you think? There are success stories taking any and every approach whether yearling or 2yo-in-training including those that have great track records picking out projectable yearlings at middle of the road prices and those buying nice bargains at a place like the Timonium sale.

Success in Book 1? Name the last 5 mil colt to win 500k never mind 5 mil. You have a better shot betting your pik 6's at SPA!! That's a joke Steve

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Only 10 of the 28 horses have managed to win a maiden race so far.

Only 2 of the 28 horses have won an allowance race or better.

28 horses at 350k on average a piece.. That is expensive dog food

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by freddymo

28 horses at 350k on average a piece.. That is expensive dog food

The purchase price is only part of the problem --- you have to spend two years paying bills. Just the vet bills have to be staggering.