Libya-Gate

[dellinger63]

Apparently representatives of the State Department will testify today that they were aware the attack on the embassy that led to the murders of four Americans including the ambassador was an organized, terrorist act within 24 hours after the attack. Six days later, (144 hours) Susan Rice was paraded on ALL the Sunday news shows reciting the White House’s perverse claim that the embassy attack was a spontaneous by-product of protests taking place over a film trailer released two months (1,440 hours) earlier.

When the President spoke before the U.N. two weeks later he reaffirmed Rice’s statement before the world while ironically that same Susan Rice sat beside Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the regurgitated mistruth.

Either the President outwardly lied to his citizens and the world or communication between Washington and the State Department is non-existent. I suppose a third possibility exists with the President simply not giving a shiat but I doubt that.

What’s troubling is the President’s participation in, and satisfaction of the Arab Spring’s outcome all the while our allies in the Mideast, especially the seemingly neutral UAE, are sounding the alarms over the usurpation by the Muslim Brotherhood of sovereign governments. To think he actually used American Taxpayer money, with the state the economy is in, to do it is disgraceful.

Libya was simply the crescendo of the President’s failed attempt to right America’s imagined wrongs. It all started with a speech in Cairo and ended with the murder of an ambassador in Benghazi.

The fact the now deceased ambassador sent numerous requests for additional security that were ignored is unforgivable. The fact more security personal were sent with the President’s daughter on a Mexican Spring Break is ugly.

If an individual drowning yells for help to the lifeguard on duty and the lifeguard doesn’t respond does he/she bear any blame? The White House’s revised excuse that the attack was so large it was unstoppable rings hollow. Just as a lifeguard’s claim the drowning victim was too large to save would.

Meanwhile the President’s immediate concern and focus seems to be saving Big Bird. Hopefully he doesn’t think he’s real.

The bright side is after four long years of failure we only have four more weeks to go.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

[Patrick333]

New Details From Libya Consulate Attack: State Department Abandons Claim Of Protest Outside Gates

The deadly September attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya was not precipitated by an anti-American protest, as had originally been reported, the State Department disclosed Tuesday night. According to reports from ABC and the Associated Press, the State Department now acknowledges that "gunfire and explosions near the front gate" were the first signs of danger precipitating the attacks that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...6pLid%3D217865

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Meanwhile the President’s immediate concern and focus seems to be saving Big Bird.

[bigrun]

On this date 10 years ago: President George W.Bush warned that Saddam Hussein could strike without notice and inflict "massive and sudden horror" on the U.S.

[phystech]

And he should have had no reason to believe they would given Iraq had NEVER used WMD's before, right?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/cw.htm

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by phystech

And he should have had no reason to believe they would given Iraq had NEVER used WMD's before, right?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/cw.htm

Who did they use them on?..The U.S.?
What threat were they to the us, they couldn't hit Isreal with their scud missles and they were only a few miles away...

And we can't seem to make up our minds on the enemy.

United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war.

Support from the U.S. for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open session of the Senate and House of Representatives. On June 9, 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC's Nightline, "It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush, operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam's Iraq into the power it became",[4] and "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."[5]

Saddam Hussein donated large sums to various institutions in his campaign to curry favour with the United States. He was made an honorary citizen of Detroit in 1980.

And remember this..

Iran–Contra affair...we sold arms to IRAN, now they are our worst enemy..

Can't seem to make up our mind on whose the enemy..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by phystech

And he should have had no reason to believe they would given Iraq had NEVER used WMD's before, right?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/cw.htm

i'm with bigrun on this, iraq was no threat to us at all conventionally. going in there and removing saddam was a huge mistake, and has put us in a worse position, not a better one. if you're going to war, you ought to make sure it's for all the right reasons, and that the outcome will be a good one. it didn't fit either of those.

[Riot]

The actual testimony of the hearing today, uncolored by imaginary partisan bullsh.iat, made up crap, and "guessing what will be said later today":

Video:
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Congres...10737434835-1/

Story:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89919Z20121010

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Who did they use them on?..The U.S.?
What threat were they to the us, they couldn't hit Isreal with their scud missles and they were only a few miles away...

And we can't seem to make up our minds on the enemy.

United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war.


And remember this..

Iran–Contra affair...we sold arms to IRAN, now they are our worst enemy..

Can't seem to make up our mind on whose the enemy..

How may arms has Obama sent to Libya without consent of Congress?? He should be picking out his own cell at Gitmo for violating his own NDAA.

How many Americans have been killed by guns he funneled to the Mexican drug cartels?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Mom growing very fuc1<ing weary of Obama's State Dept.'s Bullsh1t:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/daily/daily.asp

[dellinger63]

Takes a special kind of ignorance to reason this way.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...se_654167.html

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Takes a special kind of ignorance to reason this way.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...se_654167.html

MORGAN: "That turned out to be completely wrong--"

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: "Well, that doesn't mean it was false."

MORGAN: "What?"

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

How may arms has Obama sent to Libya without consent of Congress?? He should be picking out his own cell at Gitmo for violating his own NDAA.

How many Americans have been killed by guns he funneled to the Mexican drug cartels?

How many countries has he invaded? How many wars has he started? How many Americans have been killed in those wars?
Why wasn't bush sent to The Hague for war crimes?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by bigrun

How many countries has he invaded? How many wars has he started? How many Americans have been killed in those wars?
Why wasn't bush sent to The Hague for war crimes?

Good point! Bush is a war criminal. But Obama definitely is not.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

How many countries has he invaded? How many wars has he started? How many Americans have been killed in those wars?
Why wasn't bush sent to The Hague for war crimes?

seriously?! who in the hell would force that issue?

[Riot]

So, if the Obama administration was "hiding" the real information about Libya, how come it was available the next day?

Oh, the right-wing flying monkeys ....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

seriously?! who in the hell would force that issue?

George Bush can't go to some Euro countries, as he would be arrested for war crimes.

[Rupert Pupkin]

According to Obama's deputy campaign manager, this whole Libya-Gate discussion is not even a real issue. She says it is only a topic because of Romney and Ryan.

http://freebeacon.com/cutter-benghaz...mney-and-ryan/

[Riot]

Rupert - I watched Ambassador Rice on the Sunday morning TV shows the week after the attack - she never ruled out an attack by Al Quaeda. And an attack was being discussed by the administration the next morning afterwards, in the immediate aftermath, and they said they were trying to verify it.

Libya "gate" is RW baloney. Darryl Issa is an idiot, and was proven one at the hearings yesterday. Have you listened to the link I gave? Try it.

Once again:

The actual testimony of the hearing today, uncolored by imaginary partisan bullsh.iat, made up crap, and "guessing what will be said later today":

Video:
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Congres...10737434835-1/

Story:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89919Z20121010