Vice Presidential Debate

Riot · #1 10-11-2012, 06:33 PM

Paul Ryan already the butt of Twitter and media jokes, as it was revealed his team demanded Ryan be called "Mr. Ryan", rather than "Congressman Ryan", to distance him from the 9% Congressional approval rating.

Seriously. He's hiding from being a Congressman. You can't make this up.

So take a drink every time Biden "slips" and calls him "Congressman" LOL

bigrun · #2 10-11-2012, 07:26 PM

What Joe Biden needs to do. Robert Reich.

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Beware: Paul Ryan will appear affable. He’s less polished and aggressive than Romney, even soft-spoken. And he acts as if he’s saying reasonable things.ROR

But under the surface he’s a rightwing zealot. And nothing he says or believes is reasonable – neither logical nor reflecting the values of the great majority of Americans.

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Your job is to smoke Ryan out, exposing his fanaticism. The best way to do this is to force him to take responsibility for the regressive budget he created as chairman of the House Budget Committee.

Ryan won’t be able to pull a Romney — pretending he’s a moderate — because the Ryan budget is out there, with specific numbers.

It’s an astounding document that Romney fully supports. And it fills in the details Romney has left out of his proposals. Mitt Romney is a robot who will say and do whatever he’s programmed to do. Ryan is the robot’s brain. The robot has no heart. It’s your job to enable America to see this.

http://robertreich.org/#.UHYD_WOWoJQ.twitter

Riot · #3 10-11-2012, 07:28 PM

Biden is a good speaker: believable, blue collar, quiet, quite passionate about woman's issues. And he's sharp.

bigrun · #4 10-11-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Biden is a good speaker: believable, blue collar, quiet, quite passionate about woman's issues. And he's sharp.

Yes he is..7-8 yrs ago i usta watch Hardball and he would show up quite a bit for interviews..sharp speaker before he got gaffe prone...Haven't watched Hardball since Nov '08...mission accomplished...

my miss storm cat · #5 10-11-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Paul Ryan already the butt of Twitter

Not that it matters but really? Is he?

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Originally Posted by Riot

So take a drink every time Biden "slips" and calls him "Congressman" LOL

I'll pass cause i pretty much drink about twice a year but I'd imagine people will get pretty blitzed playing.

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Originally Posted by bigrun

What Joe Biden needs to do. Robert Reich.

Honestly I think the only thing he needs to do is to not mess up with some ridiculous comment (which of course, for comedy sake, I hope he does).

my miss storm cat · #6 10-11-2012, 10:39 PM

... now that was a debate.

bigrun · #7 10-11-2012, 10:48 PM

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... now that was a debate.

Yes, very good...Clear winner was...............Martha Radditz...

Rupert Pupkin · #8 10-11-2012, 10:59 PM

Biden surprised me tonight. I underestimated him. I was expecting Ryan to easily win the debate. Now that the debate is over, I would have to give Biden the edge. I didn't like the way Biden was constantly laughing while Ryan was speaking. I'm not sure how the public will react to that.

So much of what it comes down to is how much passion the candidate shows and how confident the candidate sounds about what he is saying. I felt that Biden came off as more confident and more passionate. I was expecting totally the opposite.

In deciding who won a debate, I think It really comes down to who was more persuasive. I felt Biden was a little more persuasive.

However, I did feel that Ryan's closing statement was his best argument. It was the argument that Obama's policies have failed and that Obama doesn't have a good plan to turn things around. More and more spending might help a little bit in the short run but in the long run it's a disaster. We are just going further and further into debt.

Dahoss · #9 10-12-2012, 12:03 AM

Anyone else think it's funny that Romney and Ryan flat out refuse to answer how their tax cuts are going to work out mathematically?

Rupert Pupkin · #10 10-12-2012, 02:53 AM

Here is a fact-check of the VP Debate:

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-sli...-election.html

joeydb · #11 10-12-2012, 07:35 AM

Paul Ryan won the televised debate due to the condescension and sneering smiles coming from Biden.

If you only heard it on the radio, Biden was more aggressive. Both men spoke with conviction and their time was well balanced - within a minute for totals (40 vs 41 minutes). I could definitely understand radio listeners giving the win to Biden.

This is like Nixon-Kennedy all over again. Back then, from what we are told, radio listeners overwhelmingly gave Nixon the win, while it was quite reversed on TV with Kennedy getting the win.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #12 10-12-2012, 07:37 AM

more crest white strips..joe was just bieng joe..it was a good debate..but i think joe was abit condesending . he made himself look bad talking over and endless eye rolls and outrage pen points ..many times he was playing cover your ass about military matters. 'that is what the joint chiefs wanted..blah blah blah.'. as if to say hey who are we to not do what they say.well if the commander in chief has a nut sack..he does question what the joint chiefs say..look back to 1963..if kennedy had listened to the military back then .we would all be gone....but both sides had a good night..and im pretty sure you saw the next gop runner for prez.

jms62 · #13 10-12-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

Paul Ryan won the televised debate due to the condescension and sneering smiles coming from Biden.

If you only heard it on the radio, Biden was more aggressive. Both men spoke with conviction and their time was well balanced - within a minute for totals (40 vs 41 minutes). I could definitely understand radio listeners giving the win to Biden.

This is like Nixon-Kennedy all over again. Back then, from what we are told, radio listeners overwhelmingly gave Nixon the win, while it was quite reversed on TV with Kennedy getting the win.

Is that Joey's rule of debates. GTFOH with that nonsense. Then I declare Obama the winner because Romney was a more blatant liar. My equally as absurd rules of debate

joeydb · #14 10-12-2012, 07:47 AM

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Is that Joey's rule of debates. GTFOH with that nonsense. Then I declare Obama the winner because Romney was a more blatant liar. My equally as absurd rules of debate

It was obviously an opinion.

jms62 · #15 10-12-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

It was obviously an opinion.

Danzig · #16 10-12-2012, 07:56 AM

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Anyone else think it's funny that Romney and Ryan flat out refuse to answer how their tax cuts are going to work out mathematically?

dodging the question is easier than saying 'well, it doesn't work mathematically'. like stewart said the other day, romney is 'a wizard'!!

Dahoss · #17 10-12-2012, 08:12 AM

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dodging the question is easier than saying 'well, it doesn't work mathematically'. like stewart said the other day, romney is 'a wizard'!!

Amazingly enough, those who support Romney and Ryan seem pretty hell bent on dodging it as well.

It's almost as if it didn't happen. Instead of talking about what they said...or didn't say, people want to talk about Biden being condescending.

You know what...if I had to sit there and listen to someone lie over and over and then dodge direct questions I'd be condescending also. Wouldn't we all?

Danzig · #18 10-12-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Amazingly enough, those who support Romney and Ryan seem pretty hell bent on dodging it as well.

It's almost as if it didn't happen. Instead of talking about what they said...or didn't say, people want to talk about Biden being condescending.

You know what...if I had to sit there and listen to someone lie over and over and then dodge direct questions I'd be condescending also. Wouldn't we all?

i would think so. i didn't watch the debate, just read a couple articles about it this a.m. i doubt i missed anything. more of the usual circumlocution, bombast, etc i'm sure. yesterday, i looked up 'when did vp debates begin' as i wanted to try to understand why they started having vp debates.
it was 1976. still not sure why tho. probably no good reason for it.

geeker2 · #19 10-12-2012, 09:45 AM

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dodging the question is easier than saying 'well, it doesn't work mathematically'. like stewart said the other day, romney is 'a wizard'!!

http://blogmaverick.com/2012/10/11/m...mney-tax-plan/

I always thought Cuban was a tool - but his views on not providing all the specifics that Romney detractors keep asking for makes a lot of sense - at least to the Romney supporters.

#20 10-12-2012, 10:03 AM

Ryan handled the budget question properly. He was against a seasoned fear mongering veteran of Washington D.C.

What Biden asked was a loaded question. One where he can take the explanation of tax cuts for the rich and use it as a debate slogan.

Ryan is a liar but a good one. Biden is a liar and an unlikeable dic.khead. He made Ryan likeable. That's hard to do.

You do not act the way he did in a debate. The GOP editors are having a field day with it.