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09-25-2006, 11:37 AM
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P Val... 7 Rides Opening Day?
Methinks Pat has the better lawyer.... we'll see.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/horser...ck=1&cset=true 
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09-25-2006, 11:45 AM
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Dr./Patient confidentiality privilege would be a VERY tough one to beat in court.
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09-25-2006, 11:48 AM
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09-25-2006, 02:08 PM
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If that is true, he has once again managed to make the CHRB look like idiots
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09-25-2006, 03:42 PM
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Looks like he is gonna need some documention after all
http://www.drf.com/entries/27/eOSA27.html?rn=956809
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09-25-2006, 04:43 PM
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From Oak Tree Stable Notes: 'FITTER THAN EVER' VALENZUELA HOPES TO RESUME RIDING THURSDAY Patrick Valenzuela expects to resume riding full time at Oak Tree on Thursday after an absence of two months. On Sept. 17, the two-time Oak Tree riding champion (1988, 2003) returned to the saddle in Canada, where he is licensed, and won the $896,460 Woodbine Mile aboard 8-1 shot Becrux. He had not ridden in a race since July 16. During that span he was hospitalized for what has been described as personal reasons. Valenzuela hoped to receive permission to ride on opening day at Oak Tree from the California Horse Racing Board, which holds the rider's conditional license, presently in abeyance. But Valenzuela's agent, Tom Knust said Monday morning that the CHRB "needs a few more documents which we should provide today, and he should be ready to ride by Thursday." Meanwhile, Valenzuela has passed his urine and hair follicle tests, according to Ingrid Fermin, executive director of the CHRB. "One of the things in his (provisional) contract says that he would be willing to share the medical history during the time he was gone, and that hasn’t happened yet," Fermin said. "That’s what we're waiting for." Fermin said that once the CHRB receives the required information and is satisfied with it, Valenzuela could resume riding in California. Knust, agent for both Valenzuela and Corey Nakatani, explained how Patrick got the mount on Becrux for Hall of Fame trainer Neil Drysdale. "Corey wanted to ride the horse," Knust said. "He told me the horse would win. Unfortunately, Corey was hurt on Friday when working a horse for Bob Hess (Jr.). Afterwards, his (right) shoulder became sore and he couldn’t lift his arm. X-rays were negative, but it still bothered him. He called me Saturday morning and told me he only had about 50 percent use of his arm and it wouldn’t be fair to Neil or the owners (Team Valor and Gary Barber) if he couldn’t ride the horse competitively in such an important race. "So I called Neil and told him Patrick had his passport and I could arrange for him to get a flight that night, that he’d been working horses the last two weeks, he was fit and as light as he’s ever been. Becrux was assigned 117 pounds and I told Neil Pat could do 117." Upon apprising the owners and receiving their approval, Drysdale gave Valenzuela the call, but not after first trying to get Victor Espinoza, who could not be contacted, according to Knust. "After I made all the arrangements," Knust said, "Neil called me back and said someone had told him Patrick hadn’t been working very much and was way overweight. I assured him he was fit and could do 117, and that he was not going to lie about it. Neil gave us the OK and the rest is history." "I felt really good," said Valenzuela, who turns 44 on Oct. 17. "I had worked three to five horses a day for 10 days before riding Becrux and felt really fit. I'm probably fitter than I've ever been."
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09-25-2006, 05:00 PM
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Where does the CHRB get off on trying run the guys entire life??
There are many people who indulge in illegal activites in their personal lives, for some its recreational drug use, drinking and driving, or just speeding on the road. I am not saying any of these things are right, but what I am saying is that your right to earn a living should not hinge on what you do when you are not at your place of employment. I say if the guy is passing the drug tests, which sems to be the CHRB's big issue with him, then let him ride. Most of these other conditions the CHRB has tried to levy on P VAL are unconstitutional, regardless if he agreed to them or not. The other jockeys do not like him for one simple reason, he is better than they are. Meaning he gets the better mounts, which means less purse money for the other Jockeys. For any of those jokceys to have the nerve to say stuff like "I am worried about P VAL because he might be out there on drugs riding horses, making unsafe for me and the horses", is a joke. There are multiple jockeys on all sorts of diuaretics, speed, and other forms of weight control drugs just to trying make weight. I am not a supporter of P VAL or the choices he has made over his career, but what I am a supporter of is a persons right in this country to earn a living. If the owners/trainers do not want to use him because of his history or the chance he relapses once again, then DO NOT PUT HIM ON YOUR HORSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-25-2006, 06:26 PM
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Lets see once you loose so many brain cells you become a danger to others and considering he is not the only one out there he has other peoples lives in his hands and considering his past would you want to be in a pack of 10 horses with a guy that is possibly high on dope?
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09-25-2006, 06:50 PM
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Him being high on dope would be the least of my concerns in a pack of 10 with guys like Pedroza, Martin Garcia, Kerwin John, and a few others who ride with what some call guts and others call carelessness.
I havent seen PVAL make too many poor decisions on the track, off the track is a different story.
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09-25-2006, 06:55 PM
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knowing pvals continued success on the track, i don't feel anyone should assume that he's on anything when riding...also, how would it be more dangerous than the physical state of some other jockeys?? i'm specifically thinking about those jocks that are so dehydrated and weak from trying to make weight that they can't even stand and support themselves! and yet these guys are supposed to be controlling 1/2 ton horses going 30-some mph?
pval ought to pay his lawyer good. he gave some good advice, and did indeed, as stated above, make the chrb look like fools. much like lawyers who have the wife sign a prenup and then beat it in divorce court!
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09-25-2006, 07:13 PM
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09-25-2006, 07:37 PM
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In this country we are given the right to be innocent until proven guilty. I believe that in PVAL's situation with the CHRB, he is guilty until proven innocent. Did he agree to these silly rules, he sure did. Does he deserve the opportunity to have those rules relaxed some, I believe he does.
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09-25-2006, 11:45 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/78999.html
It's going to be interesting to see how this whole ordeal plays out.
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