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Old 07-01-2013, 08:52 PM
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which ones would you follow when the season starts? i got one im going to follow al stall
and i thought i heard that mitchell mike i beleive from west coast is coming is that true/
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:12 PM
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which ones would you follow when the season starts? i got one im going to follow al stall
and i thought i heard that mitchell mike i beleive from west coast is coming is that true/
Jack Fisher
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:38 PM
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Stall brought only good ones up last year. Ralph Nicks is always dangerous.

Some other guys: McPeek, Matz, Wilkes, Lopresti, Catalano, Trombetta, Margolis.

One of my favorite things about Saratoga is its convergence of training talent.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:39 AM
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Steve Margolis will not have a string here this summer.

Watch for Merrill Scherer in claiming races.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:36 AM
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It will be interesting to see how John Shirreffs fares at Saratoga now that he is off the "Left" Coast....

I have been keeping a close eye on one of his 3-yr old colts in particular......
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:22 AM
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can't believe he didn't feel that the Champ deserved to run at the Spa, as is every hoss' dream. Unforgivable.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:31 AM
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alan iwinski..with jv up..gary gullio. and tom bush are consistant winners at double digit odds every year.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:59 AM
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can't believe he didn't feel that the Champ deserved to run at the Spa, as is every hoss' dream. Unforgivable.
What are you talking about? Blame ran and won at the Spa..............
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:11 PM
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What are you talking about? Blame ran and won at the Spa..............
He's always wrong, but never in doubt.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:15 PM
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I have a number of trainer stats for Saratoga, but I thought this one was interesting.

19 trainers have 100 or more starts on dirt at Saratoga between 2008 and 2012. Only one has a positive ROI. Who is it?

Three trainers have ROIs below $1.00. That'll be tough, but can anyone name them?
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:36 PM
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I have a number of trainer stats for Saratoga, but I thought this one was interesting.

19 trainers have 100 or more starts on dirt at Saratoga between 2008 and 2012. Only one has a positive ROI. Who is it?

Three trainers have ROIs below $1.00. That'll be tough, but can anyone name them?
I was about to say Linda Rice, but then I saw the "dirt" part. Her ROI on turf has to be fantastic.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:45 PM
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I have a number of trainer stats for Saratoga, but I thought this one was interesting.

19 trainers have 100 or more starts on dirt at Saratoga between 2008 and 2012. Only one has a positive ROI. Who is it?

Three trainers have ROIs below $1.00. That'll be tough, but can anyone name them?
I'm gonna guess George Weaver for the first question.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:48 PM
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I have a number of trainer stats for Saratoga, but I thought this one was interesting.

19 trainers have 100 or more starts on dirt at Saratoga between 2008 and 2012. Only one has a positive ROI. Who is it?

Three trainers have ROIs below $1.00. That'll be tough, but can anyone name them?

maybe Kimmel or Assmussen?
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:49 PM
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I'm gonna guess George Weaver for the first one.
Doubtful he has 100 starts.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:50 PM
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Mott has to be close to the 1.00 mark, though he has gotten better in recent years on dirt.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:51 PM
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I have a number of trainer stats for Saratoga, but I thought this one was interesting.

19 trainers have 100 or more starts on dirt at Saratoga between 2008 and 2012. Only one has a positive ROI. Who is it?
Chad Brown??
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:55 PM
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I was about to say Linda Rice, but then I saw the "dirt" part. Her ROI on turf has to be fantastic.
Right. Her turf ROI is a gaudy $2.44 from 258 starters. That is tremendous.

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maybe Kimmel or Assmussen?
Asmussen's dirt ROI is a very respectable $1.87 from 216 starters. Kimmel's is $1.74 from 109 starters.

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I'm gonna guess George Weaver for the first question.
As CJ suspected, Weaver has only 87 dirt starters during that period, but his ROI is $1.97

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Chad Brown??
Bingo! The 2011 meet helped it quite a bit. With exactly 100 dirt starters, Chad Brown's ROI is $2.18
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:55 PM
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Chad Brown??
I think you have it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:58 PM
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Mott has to be close to the 1.00 mark, though he has gotten better in recent years on dirt.
Mott is $1.00 right on the nose!
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:00 PM
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Albertrani has to be one of the sub 1 guys.
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