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Old 10-02-2006, 01:17 AM
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So who is pointing to the Champion Stakes? Seems the best just bumped heads this morning. Any of them coming back in two weeks? Who else is there? Sir Percy?
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Old 10-02-2006, 02:13 AM
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Can I answer that after the FS deadline?
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:26 AM
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Can I answer that after the FS deadline?
Then the info is useless to me!
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:57 AM
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I'll play nice.

Maraahel and Ouija Board.

Do you want the noms?

(Check your pm's)

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Old 10-03-2006, 07:03 AM
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Hurricane Run could well go, it looks like either Champion or BC for him. I believe Pride is going to Newmarket.
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Old 10-03-2006, 01:17 PM
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Hurricane Run could well go, it looks like either Champion or BC for him. I believe Pride is going to Newmarket.

i wonder if shirocco is still coming to the bc. they seem non-commital now.

it's looking very possible that there may be no hurricane run or shirocco in the bc turf.
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Old 10-04-2006, 11:44 AM
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No Sir Percy decision yet. Maraheel and Notnowcato in, Blue Monday to Canada instead.
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Old 10-08-2006, 01:25 PM
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Percy is in, Soviet Song out, Pride, Ouija Board and HR still possible, Notnowcato and Maraahel in.....
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:10 AM
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Coral Prices:

Sir Percy 9/2
Pride 5/1
Hurricane Run 5/1
Ouija Board 6/1
Araafa 7/1
Notnowcato 15/2
Maraahel 10/1
Pinson 14/1
Manduro 16/1
Multidimensional 16/1
Confidential Lady 20/1
Red Rocks 20/1
Soldier Hollow 20/1
Corre Caminos 20/1
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:22 PM
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Update from RP.....

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/news/mas...ory_uid=856974
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:48 PM
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I dont see Hurrican Run losing here
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:06 PM
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I dont see Hurrican Run losing here
So I guess you need glasses?
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:35 AM
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Pride is in.....

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...ion_Pride.html

Kinane takes over the mount on HR..... Soumillon on Araafa.....

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/news/mas...tory_id=856975
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:00 AM
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Ouija Board out..... straight to the BC.

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/news/mas...tory_id=857469
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:15 AM
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Saturday October 14 2006
Newmarket 15:30

Emirates Airline Champion Stakes (group 1)
£250000.00 added, 3yo plus, 1m 2f, Class 1, £198730.00 penalty
8 runners
Going: Good to Soft

1 (6) 1-12124 Hurricane Run (IRE) 13 4 9-3 A Fabre M J Kinane
2 (7) 631152 Maraahel (IRE) 53 5 9-3 v Sir Michael Stoute R Hills
3 (3) 1-11521 Notnowcato 53 4 9-3 Sir Michael Stoute R L Moore
4 (4) 10-1636 Rob Roy (USA) 48 4 9-3 Sir Michael Stoute K McEvoy
5 (2) 2-41132 Pride (FR) 13 6 9-0 A de Royer Dupre C P Lemaire
6 (5) 1-23035 Olympian Odyssey 14 3 8-12 B W Hills J P Spencer
7 (1) 1111-21 Sir Percy 133 3 8-12 M P Tregoning Martin Dwyer
8 (8) 10-2615 Confidential Lady 90 3 8-9 Sir Mark Prescott S Sanders
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:11 AM
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This is a piece I wrote for the Champion a couple of days ago, since when both Araafa and Ouija Board have dropped out, both heading straight to the Breeders' Cup instead. Connections of the former obviously read what I had to say about their colt!!



In some ways, the odds are stacked against the leading three-year-olds in the Champion Stakes, and the likes of Oratorio, Azamour, Alamshar and Russian Rhythm have all been well below par when among the market leaders in the last three years alone, each of them enduring a busy time in the top summer events in addition to their classic campaigns. That's not to say three-year-olds haven't had their share of success. David Junior and Nayef had raced in lesser company since disappointing in the Guineas, but Haafhd followed in the footsteps of recent winners Spectrum and Bosra Sham in taking the race as a Guineas winner. As with those, Haafhd was having just his second run since June on the day. Haafhd won at odds of 14/1, perhaps reflective of the fact that he was unproven at the trip; yet most recent winners have raced up to a mile and a quarter in the season they were successful, including the older horses.
The betting for this year's event suggests a somewhat open race full of intrigue. Much of that will centre around SIR PERCY, who has not been seen since winning the Derby in thrilling fashion at Epsom in June. Were it not for the outstanding George Washington (who beat Sir Percy by two and a half lengths in the 2,000 Guineas), Sir Percy would be an unbeaten, dual-Classic winning colt. For all that Sir Percy hasn't raced over a mile and a quarter to date, there is little reason to suggest that he wont prove competitive over the trip on the course where he won the Dewhurst Stakes on this day twelve months ago. Given the poor records of those three-year-olds with a busy campaign behind them, Marcus Tregoning's patient approach with Sir Percy should prove advantageous here. On the other hand, it was widely reported in the run up to the Arc that Sir Percy had suffered a setback which ruled him out of a tilt at that race and, whilst there is no question of connections risking their valuable colt, it remains to be seen if he is spot on for this.
Another of the Classic generation to have proven himself high-class is ARAAFA. He finished just over two lengths behind Sir Percy when finishing fourth in the Guineas in May, before improving to take the notable scalp of George Washington in the Irish version at The Curragh three weeks later. That was on heavy ground, but Jeremy Noseda's colt went on to prove that he didn't require such testing conditions to be seen at his best when an impressive victor of the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot. Since then Araafa has twice faced his elders in mile events at Goodwood and back at Ascot. On the first occasion, in the Sussex Stakes, Alan Munro was lured into sitting close to a breakneck pace on Araafa, soon in trouble and eventually finishing fifth of seven behind Court Masterpiece; also reportedly returning a bit sore. He has since proved that effort all wrong by running well behind a revitalised George Washington in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes, albeit having no answer to the impressive winner. It is self-evident that the major factor which Araafa must overcome here is the step up in trip. Whilst it is understandable that connections may want to avoid George Washington from now on, it would have perhaps have been easier to make a stronger case for Araafa in the Breeders' Cup Mile at Churchill Downs rather than for this race.
Another Classic winning three-year-old entered for the race is Prix de Diane winner CONFIDENTIAL LADY. She was providing Sir Mark Prescott with his first Classic success when victorious at Longchamp in June, having run well to finish runner-up to Speciosa in the 1,000 Guineas on her reappearance. Confidential Lady failed to run much of a race when raised further in trip for the Irish Oaks at The Curragh next time, but appeared beaten before stamina became an issue. Having run in four consecutive Classics in little over two months, Confidential Lady was given a deserved break, and will reappear here, over what may well prove to be her optimum trip, a fresh horse. That said the balance of her form leaves her will plenty to find with the leading three-year-old colts, even in rececipt of 3-lb sex allowance.
Over the past six years, two horses have run in the Champion Stakes following an effort in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. In this respect HURRICANE RUN has a very similar profile to Montjeu, both owned by Michael Tabor. Both were Arc winners in the previous season before winning the Tattersalls Gold Cup and King George and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes in the next campaign. Both could finish only fourth in the Arc, before seeking compensation at Newmarket, seemingly as an afterthought. Perhaps more importantly is the fact that both seemed better over a mile and a half than the shorter trip. Montjeu was sent off at 11/10-on for the 2000 Champion Stakes, but found the game Kalanisi half-a-length too strong in the finish. A slowly-run Arc was never likely to see Hurricane Run in his best light, and so it proved, and although he was trapped behind a weakening rival at a vital stage off the home turn, it seemed he simply didn't have the tactical speed to extricate himself from that trouble. It is to his advantage that he didn't endure an unduly hard race at Longchamp. It will be interesting to note whether the Coolmore-owned Ivan Denisovich will be employed to ensure a true test at the trip, or whether he will, once again, be run purely on merit.
The other to have taken in the Champion after the Arc was PRIDE, twelve months ago. The game and consistent mare was slightly unforunate to finish only seventh at Longchamp last season, and proved the point when putting up a fine performance to finish three-quarters-of-a-length runner-up to the well-ridden David Junior in this race. She has made further progress this season at the age of six, in the frame on all five outings, putting up a career best effort to finish second to Rail Link in the Arc a fortnight ago. That level of form suggests she can now be considered the best mare in the world, and given her proven effectivenes over course and distance, she looks to hold particularly strong claims.
The Sir Michael Stoute-trained duo Notnowcato and Maraahel fought out a thrilling finish to the Juddmonte International at York last time, and it is interesting to see that both come straight here, a ploy successfully utilised by Stoute with Kalanisi in 2000. NOTNOWCATO narrowly got the better of his stablemate that day as he continued his upward curve by winning a first Group 1. The form of the race has been boosted with Blue Monday and Dylan Thomas - who finished third and fourth respectively - both going on to win well next time. Notnowcato won over nine furlongs on the Rowley Mile on his reappearance, and since then has been campaigned solely at a mile and a quarter so conditions are unlikely to present a problem. Although, raced only on dead ground or firmer, significant rain would be something of an unknown. MARAAHEL has run well at the highest level - notably when placed in the last two renewals of the International, and when third in this race last year - without having been able to get his head in front. Whilst he has shown himself not to be fully straightforward, he appeared to do nothing wrong when narrowly denied by Notnowcato at York, having had some three lengths to make up on the winner when the sprint for home began. Whilst he may be able to get his revenge on that rival, it seems certain that he would have to put up a career-best effort to win. It looks particularly difficult for him to reverse form with Pride from this race twelve months ago, given that that mare comes into the event in even better shape.
There would be no more popular winner of the race than OUIJA BOARD. The five-year-old mare has been more busy than ever this season, this set to be her eighth outing of the calendar year. She has proved herself to be as good as ever, winning the Prince of Wales's Stakes at Royal Ascot and the Nassau Stakes at Glorious Goodwood. Last time she fared creditably when runner-up to Dylan Thomas in the Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown, and she bypassed two mooted objectives in the Arc and Prix de l'Opera at Longchamp a fortnight ago, so as to come here relatively fresh. That said, connections have always intimated that regaining her Breeders' Cup crown remains the priority, and it remains to be seen as to whether she turns up at Newmarket in tip-top condition.
Despite the wide range of end-of-season options open to high-class middle-distance performers, the Champion Stakes appears to have attracted a highly competitive, most interesting field for its latest renewal. Two that appeal most are Sir Percy and PRIDE. The latter has shown herself to be most likeable and consistent, and with fewer questions against her than the rest, she is the selection.

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Old 10-13-2006, 10:05 AM
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Wow... interesting and insightful as usual.

I'll go with Pride / Notnowcato / Maraahel.

Good luck to you and come home safe everyone.
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Old 10-13-2006, 09:10 PM
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Hey Sniper..... who do you like here? Percy?
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Old 10-13-2006, 09:43 PM
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Hey Sniper..... who do you like here? Percy?
Hurricane Run in a waltz
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:21 PM
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pride/percy exactamundo
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